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On 4/16/2007 at 5:45 AM, Barjinder Singh said:
Waheguru ji ka khalsa
Waheguru ji ki fateh
Every punjabi knows that people from backward states like bihar and uttar pradesh are coming to punjab to earn meal for them and their families...but, on the other hand,,they r also in a sense destroying punjab...creates a lot of nuisense and traffic...speak a lot of bad words and usually have very bad habbits of eating so called "pan" and smoking cigrettes...and thats the reason why we punjabis often insult them and always speak against them...even i m not in favour of biharis...
but what i m thinking is that "isn't it against the teachings given to us by our gurus?" they had taught us to treat everyone as our brothers and sisters...they had taught us not to discriminate anyone on the bases of caste and origin...then why r we doing so...if we look deeply...even most of the punjabis drink bear now..and they also smoke...
what i want to ask u is that do we need to change our behaviour towards biharis..and if no...then wat answer we will give to waheguru when he will asks us about it...and if yes...then should we keep on watching the destuction of punjab...the land of our gurus...?
please tell ur views..
gurfateh ji
Sri Gur Gobind Singh Ji was born in Patna, Bihar.
Granted, these individuals come with their own traditions/habits - chewing and spitting paan (tobacco) and smoking cigarettes which is bad BUT, this is not enough for one to discriminate them based upon their geolocation/caste.
The Guru's never discriminated other castes. Instead, they embraced them and taught them otherwise. I.e. Kauda Raaksih and Gur Nanak Dev Ji.I'm against the caste hatred as it's simply not GurSikhi. GurSikhi is compassion, love, understanding and being righteous. There are other ways you can talk to someone to get your point across. Being discriminative and aggresive is not always the best option.
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18 hours ago, superkaur said:I been reading about how akali phoola singh was a fanatical strict sikh who lead equally fanatical akali nihung warriors who hated non-Sikh presence and interference in Sikh governance and lands captured by them. Such was their readiness, daring recklessness and desire for war against the enemies of Sikhs that they often defeated enemies many times their number and strength. Whereas maharajah ranjit singh was more strategically cunning, less about spreading Sikhi, more diplomatic and pluralistic in his approach in matters of religion and the political affairs of the state.
Maharajah ranjit singh made treaties with the british invaders (east india company) in the vain hope that:
1) one day there will be a right time to militarily strike the Sikh princely states under british protectorate and unite the whole of punjab region under his rule
2) if that was not possible then the sutlej border between his government and them would be the permanment border and they will be allies in peace with each other.
On the other hand akali phoola singh wanted to attack and wipe out the british presence in northern india. And I believe had he had got his way and the Khalsa army was put in his command then the british would have been wiped out within weeks therefore enabling the expansion of Sikh rule to be unchecked and unmatched meaning afghanistan and iran could have easily come under Sikh rule the ruler of persia at the time admitted as such when hearing of battles lead by general nawla and akali phoola singh. The regional powers of the time afghans, Marathas, mughuls were no match for the Sikhs. I believe it was some idle hesitancy of maharaja ranjit singh in not striking while the iron was hot and rather enjoying the good life without having secured his rule is what lead to the downfall of his legacy, the Sikh empire and overall Sikh sovereignty eventually because the British had always eyes on taking over punjab as they needed it in order to get to afghanistan and counter russian empires expansionist plans.
1. Can you share the source of this reading? So we can all get some more context and verify the validity of this reading material please?
2. Raaj isn't really preached in the teaching of the Gurus. If so, I'm sure the 10 Guru's would've clearly made this apparent in their teachings and would have accomplished this objective themselves.
Sri Guru Granth Sahib - Ang: 534 (Guru Arjan Dev Ji):
Raaj Na Chahou Mukat Na Chahou Man Preet Charan Kamalare.
(I do not seek power and I do not seek liberation. My mind is in love with your lotus feet)
Sri Dasam Granth Sahib - Ang: 57 (Bachitar Naatak):
Ham Ih Kaaj Jagat Mo Aae. Dharam Heth Gurdev Patthai.
(I have set foot on this Earth for this one reason; to propogate righteousness)
Jahaan Tahaan Tum Dharam Bithaaro. DushT Dokheean Pakarr Pachharro.
(The Lord has asked me to spread Dharam and vanquish tyrants and evil-minded individuals)
I could reference countless other tuk's from Gurbaani but i'm sure these two suffice.
Akali Baba Phoola Singh Ji was walking in the steps of the teachings of the Gurus; on a mission to eliminate the enemy; in this case being the British who tried ever so hard to eliminate our teachings by performing disgusting acts such as but not limited to:
Creating the SGPC
Spreading propaganda of the Khalsa
Issuing 'shoot on-sight' orders to kill Singhs
Spreading propaganda on our scriptures
Sending in paid Sikhs to spread nonsence and create divisions
Polluting the Khandeh Di Pahul maryada by introducing other cults to participate
Removing the Nihang Singhs from the Akaal Bunga Sahib aka Akaal Takhat Sahib and therefore the whole Jathedaari system that has been in place since the time of the Gurus.
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This reminds me of Dwight and Jim from the US version of The Office.
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2 hours ago, superkaur said:
Vaguely : No.
Every individual goes through their own journey. X and Y chromosomes have a play into it and maybe just normal conditioning (seeing your beta parent and how they get mistreated/not heard may want the child to be different or the same).
Growing up, I attributed a lot of my parent’s qualities but as I grew older I started to question them; this led me to discard some and cherish others.
I truly don’t think there is a yes/no to this question, as there are so many variables.
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benefits of kabaddi to Sikh Kaum?
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Kabbadi is good for health, endurance, overall conditioning. It is important to remain fit & healthy.
ਹਉ ਗੋਸਾਈ ਦਾ ਪਹਿਲਵਾਨੜਾ ॥
Ho Gosaaee Dhaa Pehilavaanarraa ||
I am a wrestler; I belong to the Lord of the World.
ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ (ਮਃ ੫) ਅਸਟ (੨੯) ੧੭:੧ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੭੪ ਪੰ. ੮
Sri Raag Guru Arjan Dev
ਮੈ ਗੁਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਉਚ ਦੁਮਾਲੜਾ ॥
Mai Gur Mil Ouch Dhumaalarraa ||
I met with the Guru, and I have tied a tall, plumed turban.
ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ (ਮਃ ੫) ਅਸਟ (੨੯) ੧੭:੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੭੪ ਪੰ. ੯
Sri Raag Guru Arjan Dev
ਸਭ ਹੋਈ ਛਿੰਝ ਇਕਠੀਆ ਦਯੁ ਬੈਠਾ ਵੇਖੈ ਆਪਿ ਜੀਉ ॥੧੭॥
Sabh Hoee Shhinjh Eikatheeaa Dhay Baithaa Vaekhai Aap Jeeo ||17||
All have gathered to watch the wrestling match, and the Merciful Lord Himself is seated to behold it. ||17||
ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ (ਮਃ ੫) ਅਸਟ (੨੯) ੧੭:੩ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੭੪ ਪੰ. ੯
Sri Raag Guru Arjan Dev
ਵਾਤ ਵਜਨਿ ਟੰਮਕ ਭੇਰੀਆ ॥
Vaath Vajan Ttanmak Bhaereeaa ||
The bugles play and the drums beat.
ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ (ਮਃ ੫) ਅਸਟ (੨੯) ੧੮:੧ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੭੪ ਪੰ. ੧੦
Sri Raag Guru Arjan Dev
ਮਲ ਲਥੇ ਲੈਦੇ ਫੇਰੀਆ ॥
Mal Lathhae Laidhae Faereeaa ||
The wrestlers enter the arena and circle around.
ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ (ਮਃ ੫) ਅਸਟ (੨੯) ੧੮:੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੭੪ ਪੰ. ੧੦
Sri Raag Guru Arjan Dev
ਨਿਹਤੇ ਪੰਜਿ ਜੁਆਨ ਮੈ ਗੁਰ ਥਾਪੀ ਦਿਤੀ ਕੰਡਿ ਜੀਉ ॥੧੮॥
Nihathae Panj Juaan Mai Gur Thhaapee Dhithee Kandd Jeeo ||18||
I have thrown the five challengers to the ground, and the Guru has patted me on the back. ||18||
ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ (ਮਃ ੫) ਅਸਟ (੨੯) ੧੮:੩ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੭੪ ਪੰ. ੧੦
Sri Raag Guru Arjan Dev