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What's funny is a rumour can be started so easily on SS forum! Find out whether it's true before you decide to slap him up!!! I am sorry, an e-mail rumour is not enough to go on and some dodgy picture doesn't mean anything. Well here the mans number 020 8581 1598 and let's all ask him if he would really make a sucidal statement that he's is the 11th Guru of the Sikhs!! Here's their website http://www.kalimata.co.uk/. Can someone please find me the alleged claim the man is making? If you guys really want to see who openly makes claims to being the 11th, 12th, 13th, 14th and even 15th Guru of the Sikhs then visit your local naamdhari temple or visit http://www.<banned site filter activated>/frame.htm naamdharis need beats

silly hindoooooooooooos

yeh i get u and tht but theres sacrifice and theres stupidity init - to me there believe is stupid so i would never do it they can believe it and die as mch as they wnt gd luck to dem hope all the hanumaans cme 4rm London Zoo to buil them a bridge lOl

LOL kill themselevs over water LOL stupid bramins,god u knw there are a billion hindus in India and a billion chinese in china if these people stoped polluting as they are or stopped reproducing so quick Global warming would go dwn and pollution would be reduced by 45%,if britain stopped tommorw polluting c02 India would fill the space in 6 months so no point us wrking to stop global warming these bamans are going to mess things up anyway we got 2 stop these river polluters first -they must be killing off the food chains and fishes

The most dirtiest river on earth was what a gora tld me once the thames is a million times cleaner than tht crap hole,they drink from therer bathein there excrete in ther let pump sewage there wash their dishes there throw ashes of the dead there throw dead bodies there they do all sorts makes me sick they are destorying the environment CALL GREENPEACE SAVE THE PLANET FROM THE RIVER POLLUTERS - flipiing river worshippers

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Lae ke rehange Khalistan May the traitors suffer in hell

as far as im conerned this is one of the reasons the sikh raaj fell hindu culture crept in these flagss are now just mueum ornaments to me and dnt signify the greatness of the sikh raaj,they are hindu flags and have nothing to do with sikhism so dnt deserve the name of nishan sahib ,a nishan sahib either has a khanda/ik onkar on it or is either blue or orange not red with hanumaan dancing,this is what the nalki nihangs like so they can say we are hindus when we are not this is the Hindu propoganda machine at work since 200yrs -which lies in a museum now showing thier gods and culutre insted of sikh culture if if offended anyone i cant care less they are not religious to me and never will be.

I didnt mock i said s h i v l i n g e m is tht mokcing did i be racis did i say kill hindus no i ddnt did i disprespect thier gods no so why the note

well u try frying kebabs dwn harmandir sahib and see if u make it out alive MEAT IS FORBIDDEN IN A GURDWARA END OF

well you knw they dnt fit in 2 sikhi interpretation u see so must be dogras or something dodgy,why would banda singh bahadur have bandars on the flag why nt a khanda he did have nishan sahibs with khandas of which 2 or so still exist in a gurdwara in panjab

well you knw they dnt fit in 2 sikhi interpretation u see so must be dogras or something dodgy

Wouldnt be surprised if they put a 10ft *EDITED* Admin Note: We don't allow members to mock other religion.

The <admin-profanity filter activated> hindus wont stop attacking us-do you know why its is becasue we have too many traitors and sellouts some who reside on this forum watch and report -yes you lot know who i am on about <admin-profanity filter activated> bastards

Some dhuma geezer and some ram singh of the other faction GOI agents

I call who ever i want a sant or brahmgyani there is no rule book defining a sant -and im not direspecting akaal purkh or its hukam,maybe you lot are you taksalis who think Bhindranwale is alive,do these panj singhs even exist do they have names are they even real,just becasue Thakur Singh said hes alive-which we now all know was a blatant lieeeeeeee Taksalis can wait a millenium SHAHEED SANT JARNIAL SINGH BHINDRANWALE wnt cme back as they are now one with akaal,Some taksalis have the theory that a day or so after Thakur Singh ji '''''acting'''''' jathedar of Taksal passed over into the next world,the tsunami happned becasue a great soul had died -now i find that stupid -superstious and pathetic,to the Taksalis that claim that -are you telling me just beacuse Thakur Singh died god decieded millions of others should too? no thats being daft gosh we are messed up anyway Jathas can fight over jathedars and amrit -<you lot have forgotten the real sprit of Sikhism

ddt aint a jatha firstly, and secondly it aint messssed up YET but when sant ji comes back then u'll see raj karega khalsa :TH: are u living in some dream land? Sant ji will come back SHAHEED jarnail singh bhidnranwale died atthe age of 37 so hell be around 60 now if hes alive,Stop listening to what Thakur Singh said,i aint direspecting thakur singh ji as a Sikhi or his sikhi BUT taklsalis(im guesing ur one) mke out hes even greater than Bhindranwale himself,If the bbc reproter can say he saw bhindranwales body being cremated if his family can say if akal thkat can say hes shaheed than why cant you, i bet half the Taksal will wait another 100/200 years for the prophetic return which will never happen Bhindranwale died fighting like a tru singh, Are you telling me that you as in DDT lot are not going to do anything until bhindranwale returns ? Which he wnt he died a shaheed on june 6th 1984,The Taksal is messed up proper you have to factions both have no direction for which way they wnt to go -both claim they are the true taksal one has declared bhindranwale shaheed as it should be the other is still on the acting jathedhar flex,well im telling you staright wait all your lives Bhindranwale wont return --- Now your going to say -------------------------------------------Thakur Singh's bachan right he said bhindranwale went by the hukam of panj singhs,and will return when it suites akaal rite?---------------------------my question to you is how come only thakur singh and his followers claimed tht how come in the last 20yrs has there ben no sighting of bhindranwale or any recording message,he wanst a coward who would run he fought to the death------------------------The taksal aint going to listen looks like it dnt it so while you lot wait let the rest of the Panth carry on with advancing the faith thank you ---------------------------& to the akj's and ddt's who argue and beef over so called special amrit,AMRIT IS ONE AND THE SAME DDT''S AMRIT ISNT BETTER THEN AKJ'S AMRIT OR VICE VERSA AMRIT FROM ANYWHERE IS ONE AND THE SAME wjkkwjkf

KH4L1574N Z1ND484D N3V3R 4G37 1984

Emotionl video feat:One of the most emotional tracks from shaheedi 400 <part1 part2>

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So is he comming down tommorrow

WE can t do jack until we chuck out the traitors and h8ers from the religion and the dirt EG;rss lovers,India suporters who do bipran ki reet, sikh youth who dont care,sikh girls who want to marry non sikhs,sikh leaders who are after money,almost all of the SGPC,Unite the Jathas(which wont happen DDT AKJ both messed up -)

Meat is meat some sikhs say dont eat beef but chickens ok just want to point out that we are not cow worshippersAdapted from an article by a Sevadar of Gurdwara Tapoban Sahib The Panthic Sikh Rehit Maryada makes it clear that the four Bajjar Kurehits for a Sikh, which result in apostasy from the Sikh faith are as follows: 1) ਕੇਸਾਂ ਦੀ ਬੇ-ਅਦਬੀ 2) ਕੁੱਠਾ ਖਾਣਾ। 3) ਪਰ-ਇਸਤ੍ਰੀ ਜਾਂ ਪਰ-ਪੁਰਸ਼ ਦਾ ਗਮਨ (ਭੋਗਣਾ)। 4) ਤਮਾਕੂ ਦਾ ਵਰਤਣਾ। The four transgressions, which must be avoided are 1) Dishonouring the hair, 2) Eating Kuttha, 3) Cohabiting with a person other than one's spouse, and 4) Using tobacco. The question is, what is Kuttha? While Sikh scholars have defined Kuttha in modern times to mean "meat slaughtered in the Muslim way" or "Halal meat", this is not a correct interpretation of this word. If we want to have a proper understanding of "Kuttha" it is best to look to Sri Guru Granth Sahib. The word "Kuttha" appears in Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee a number of times. Kuttha can have two meanings: either to butcher, kill or destroy or alternatively, it can mean meat (the product of killing, butchering, destroying). A word that operates similarly is "ਮੁਠਾ " It means to loot or steal, but it also refers to the product, which is something stolen or obtained through bad means. ਕੂੜੁ ਛੁਰਾ ਮੁਠਾ ਮੁਰਦਾਰੁ ॥ (24) Here it refers to the product of stealing i.e. the "loot" ਨਾਨਕ ਠਗਿਆ ਮੁਠਾ ਜਾਇ ॥ (142) Referring here to looting or the act of being looted. The root of the worth "Kuttha" is "Kutthaar" or axe. ਗਾਵੈ ਜਮਦਗਨਿ ਪਰਸਰਾਮੇਸੁਰ ਕਰ ਕੁਠਾਰੁ ਰਘੁ ਤੇਜੁ ਹਰਿਓ ॥ (1389) Parasraam the son of Jamdagan, whose axe and powers were taken away by Raghuvira, sing of Him. The question that immediately comes to mind is, if Kutthaar is the root of Kutthaa, when has an axe ever been used in Halal meat? A sharp blade is used, but never an axe. An axe is used to give swift blows whereas in Halal, the knife or blade is used to slice the throat. Looking at how "Kuttha" has been used in Gurbani we have the following example: ਇਕੁ ਨਿਰੰਜਨੁ ਰਵਿ ਰਹਿਆ ਭਾਉ ਦੁਯਾ ਕੁਠਾ ॥ (321) Does this mean that the love of duality will be "Halaled"? Or does it mean that the love of the other will be destroyed/ killed? Clearly it can only mean to destroy or kill. Halal would not make sense here. Referring back to our example of "muthhaa", just as the act of looting produces "loot", here, the act of killing or butchering will produce something butchered (meat). It is illogical to suggest it will produce "Muslim meat". The example often used to suggest "Kutthaa" refers to Muslim meat is ਅਭਾਖਿਆ ਕਾ ਕੁਠਾ ਬਕਰਾ ਖਾਣਾ ॥ (472) But clearly, as opposed to standing in support of Kutthaa meaning "Halal" this tuk is strong proof that Kutthaa means only meat. If "Kutthaa" meant "Halal meat" then there would have been no need or reason to qualify it with "ਅਭਾਖਿਆ ਕਾ". Abhaakiyaa refers to the Muslim Kalma, which is recited when butchering animals for Halal but is "un-utterable" for Hindus as it would convert them to Islam. If Kutthaa means "Halal" then this translation would be "Kalma-Halal meat." That's completely redundant as Halal is by definition with the Kalma. But because Kutthaa is just "meat", it required "abhaakhiyaa" to show it's a reference to Muslim meat here. Animal being slaughtered Let us look at the different translations Sant Singh Khalsa translates this tuk as: abhaakhiaa kaa kut(h)aa bakaraa khaanaa || They eat the meat of the goats, killed after the Muslim prayers are read over the, He clearly has shown that "Kutthaa" was goat meat but became "Muslim" because of "abhaakiya" or the Kalma. "Abhaakiya" was necessary to make it "Muslim meat". Bhai Manmohan Singh translates as follows: abhaakhi-aa kaa Kutthaa bakraa khaanaa. He eats the he-goat killed by uttering the foreign (Muslim-Kalma) words. ਪਰਦੇਸੀ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਉਚਾਰਨ ਕਰਕੇ ਮਾਰੇ ਹੋਏ ਬੱਕਰੇ ਨੂੰ ਉਹ ਖਾਂਦਾ ਹੈ। Here once again, the translation qualifies just a killed goat (Kutthaa) with abhaakhiyaa (kalma) to take the meaning of Halal. Otherwise Kuttha here is just meat. Freedkot vala teeka defines it as follows- ਅਭਾਖਿਆ ਕਾ ਕੁਠਾ ਬਕਰਾ ਖਾਣਾ ॥ ਚਉਕੇ ਉਪਰਿ ਕਿਸੈ ਨ ਜਾਣਾ ॥ (ਅਭਾਖਿਆ) ਮਲੇਛ ਭਾਖਾ ਅਰਥਾਤ ਕਲ ਮੇਂ ਰੂਪ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਕਾ ਮਾਰਾ ਹੂਆ ਬਕਰਾ ਖਾਣਾ ਕਰਤੇ ਹੋ ਫੇਰ ਕਹਤੇ ਹੋ ਹਮਾਰੇ ਚੌਕੇ ਉਪਰ ਕਿਸੇ ਨੇ ਜਾਣਾ ਨਹੀਂ ਭਾਵ ਕੋਈ ਨ ਜਾਓ ਚਉਕਾ ਅਸੁਧੁ ਹੋ ਜਾਵੇਗਾ॥ It is clear that the translation says it's just "ਮਾਰਾ ਹੂਆ ਬਕਰਾ " but because of "abhaakhiyaa" it is "(ਅਭਾਖਿਆ) ਮਲੇਛ ਭਾਖਾ ਅਰਥਾਤ ਕਲ ਮੇਂ ਰੂਪ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਕਾ" ie. Muslim Kuttha. So it is now perfectly evident that "Kutthaa" by itself means only meat. To signify "Mulsim meat" Guru Sahib used to adjective "abhaakiya ka". Without it, the term would have meant only butchered meat. To summarise, the root of "Kuttha" is "Kutthaar" or axe. A word that operates like "Kuttha" is "muthha" which refers to the act of looting and also the product of looting i.e. "the loot". In this way, Kuttha can mean, "to butcher/ kill/ destroy" and also refers to the product i.e. "butchered meat". It cannot by any means refer to Halal meat or Muslim meat."Everything is life! Microorganisms are in water, air etc. When you drink water, cut vegetables, or chop down wheat, you are taking the lives of living things. Is it murder and killing? Who says there is difference in life... there is killing in cutting vegetables which have a souls as with an animal."Everyday we kill countless organisms just through breathing or stepping, but that is much different than Kuttha. Kuttha is the meat of an animal that has been 'butchered' and then 'intentionally' eaten. The reason why a Sikh doesn't eat meat is not related to 'ahimsaa' or "respect for all life" like the Jains. The reason is 'daya'. Mercy evaporates when we butcher and eat meat. A carrot may have life but it will never run away screaming when you go to the garden to get it. Guru Sahib is clear in Gurbani that life must sustain itself on life. There is no lack of mercy or daya (mercy) excercised when cutting a vegetable as it does not reacts to being cut. Contrast that with animals. These animals beg and cry and little calves cling to their mothers in terror when they sense they will be slaughtered. The word "gardener" has no pejorative connotation. The word "butcher" on the other hand stands for someone who has no mercy. If one's heart doesn't melt at seeing the shrieks and anguish of animals, why would it matter when a human does the same? Why is it Muslims can do Halal on humans? It's because they have so much experience with animals that the jerking, gasping of dying animals and blood is something usual for them. A butcher will have the heart of a butcher. A butcher can never be a 'Dharmi' (spiritually pious) person. The concept of "Jhatka" as it is known today is a Hindu one borrowed from the Rajputs who still do it today and have done it for ages before the Sikhs. Proponents of this practice explain this concept as a "Singh" cutting the head of a goat with one blow while shouting a Jaikara (the cry of "Sat Sri Akal" (God is True)). But in Gurbani we are faced with the question: ਜੀਅ ਬਧਹੁ ਸੁ ਧਰਮੁ ਕਰਿ ਥਾਪਹੁ ਅਧਰਮੁ ਕਹਹੁ ਕਤ ਭਾਈ ॥ ਆਪਸ ਕਉ ਮੁਨਿਵਰ ਕਰਿ ਥਾਪਹੁ ਕਾ ਕਉ ਕਹਹੁ ਕਸਾਈ ॥2॥ "You kill living beings, and call it a righteous action. Tell me, brother, what would you call an unrighteous action? If you religious people are doing "religious" killing for meat, then what is A-dharam (atheism)? If you are a religious person then whom will we call a butcher? ||2||" (Ang 1103) "Doctors say eating meat is healthy - you get vitamins and good things - so there are benefits in eating meat, like with anything its about how much you eat." The health aspect we all know and there are lots of resources on the Internet on this issue. One site, which highlights the main risks of eating meat, is: Gurbani tells us: ਬਾਬਾ ਹੋਰੁ ਖਾਣਾ ਖੁਸੀ ਖੁਆਰੁ ॥ ਜਿਤੁ ਖਾਧੈ ਤਨੁ ਪੀੜੀਐ ਮਨ ਮਹਿ ਚਲਹਿ ਵਿਕਾਰ ॥1॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ "O Baba, the pleasures of other foods are false. Eating which, the body is ruined (i.e. are unhealthy), and wickedness and corruption enter into the mind. ||1||Pause||" (Ang 16) The fact is that a human's own flesh is exactly like that of meat. Observing surgery or perusing internal medicine books, one notes that we are the same substance. That's why Guru Nanak Sahib jee has said not to hate meat. We are meat. But at the same time we cannot eat it because it would be like eating a dead body. It's foul and really unthinkable. MEAT IS MEAT BEEF AINT SPECIAL ITS THE SAME AS CHIKEN OR ANYTHIGN ELSE

Dont worry i do,not a couch potatoe :D

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...737&q=singh Nice gatka video