The Khalsa Fauj

Only AKJ says keski as far as I know. If AKJ believe they are right, they should take the matter to Akaal Takht. Until Akaal Takht says it is kakkar, we must not question the Kakkars. As for meat, we have debated many times. Looks like you guys will never listen. Just read some of the other threads about meat.

We don't need to take the guy to pateoras and pateeecees or dddayses or dadeoras or whatever. That is some complicated stuff.

Listening is good too but doing it yourself is the best. The best svaad is gotten when we do it slowly with concentration.

It only looks small but if you think about all the controversial topics here, they exist due to different rehats. If eveyone followed one, we would be able to focus more on other issues than spend 50% of the time going at each other. I don't like to nit pick but sometimes, got to do as hukam comes. Can't reject hukam.

Why are you two at it again? Can't you guys get along? Learning Gurmukhi is a must. Only learning to read it won't help. Santhya is needed from someone who knows how to read Gurbani. Derawalas aren't the best source for this as they pronounce paatsaho instead of paatshah.

Who cares, not like he is a real Singh. I will be happy when a Saabat Soorat Singh does it.

We only believe in 1 God but to praise God, we do use mythological entities to show that even they are under God and don't go after them. Same way, Guru Ji is saying that even what you call angels and gods are under the command of God. In other words, Guru Ji is saying that whatever great entity you create with your imagination, they are all below God.

If Guru Sahib agve one Panth, one Granth, there should be 1 maryada. Simple as that and that maryada is the one made by the Panth which SGPC is given the duty of promoting and implementing in Gurudwaras. If someone, akj or taksal have different views and they think they are right, they should take them to Akaal Takht and prove their point. If they can't, then they should accept the Panthic maryada and move on. Sitting there and making own maryadas isn't what Guru Ji created Khalsa Panth for.

As for waking up, start to get up around 7 and then slowly start waking up earlier. E.g. wake up 15 minutes earlier until you get to like 5. Amrit Vela is considered between 3-6 am. Getting up around 5 be a good time.

An old person with white beard = baba ji turban = dustaar dad's younger brother = chaachaa ji dad's older brother = taaya ji dad's older sister in law = taa-ee ji dad's younger sister in law = chachee jee granny = daa-dee jee or beejee granpa = baabaa ji or daadaa jii

I don't have a pdf version but if someone wants a hard copy, they can pic it up from their local Gurudwara. They are distributed free. I will try to get it pdfied if someone wants it. How do I know it is maryada given by Guru? Guru Sahib created Khalsa Panth and also made KHalsa part of the Guru. It is not SGPC maryada. SGPC just has to duty to have it implmented which it has failed at. It is Panthic maryada, in oher words, Guru maryada.

Wat an anti-panthic dusht for dissing Panthic maryada. Jathaydaar Joginder Singh Ji Vedanti excommunicates you from the Panth! SGPC.net is the real maryada. All other maraydas are false and man made. This one is made by Panth as Guru. Guru Gobind Singh Ji gave Guru GRanth and Panth the Guruship and not 10000 different deras and marayadas.

Why are you bringing my mom and dad into this? You are nothing but a loser full of dirty beliefs. All you do is accuse innocent bibis of smoking, drinking and cutting hair. You have no sharam or dharam: Sharam Dhraam Doaee Shup Khaloaye Koorh Firray Pardhaan Vay Laalo! Go talk to C. G S Sandhu. He is from Baba Deep Singh Ji's family. He is not anyone's agent but of Panth. He will sort out maanuuu too. As for dhun ho dhun ho stuff. It is not right to sing it as kirtan. Without SatGuru, other banis are false. Only fake speak and fake listen. What maanuu sings isn't Ucharan by my Guru, so I will never accept it as kirtan. Since he isn't married, it is not hard to believe that he got attacked by lust and atacked some bibis. If he was married, that be another situation. What Sarbat daa bhulla happened with the 1313 Akhnd Paaths? Mann got attacked and had his head opened? Fightings at Nanaksar or property control? Is this the Sarbat the bhulla that happened with 1313 Akhand Paaths? Sarbat daa bhulla happens with Gurbani gyan and veechar and education. Not by doing 1313 Akhand paaths in 1 room. If it was 1 Akhand paath, then that be a different situation. Maan Singh tellls others rukhee sukhee kaa naalay thundaa paanee pee but himself has to eat aloo walay praounthay daily and has to drink milk boiled according to his liking. He says something and does something, thus he is a fishy guy. Does he gulp down darooo too? Is that beer belly or just too many samoas, rusgoolas, alloo gobee parounthas, glasses of milk with long and laichees and other ingredients? As for taste, everything is eaten due to taste. Do you eat grass? Do you eat putthay? Do you eat plant leaves? Why don't you eat these? They aren't tasty? Do you use masalas? Do you use: loon? Mirch? sugar? huldee? garlic? onion? hot milk? allooo prothas?? These are all used or eaten due to taste. Meat has no taste, it is masalas that give it the taste. It is just another food like milk, dudh, etc. etc. As for killing, Guru Sahib went on shikaar daily and killed all types of animals. There is no such thing as refraining from killing in the Khalsa Panth. Guru Sahib gave us the title of Singh meaning lion. Lion eats meat. Don't tell me that Lion is the strongest or whatever because elephants are real strong too. A Lion can't kill an elephant alone. Guru Sahib kept baaj which often went hunting too. Baaj also eats meat. Saad babas have their lineage to nirmalas which have lineage back to kashi and benaras and haridwar which means they are brahmanified.

Do you even know what kuchee bani is? The names of Guru Sahibor anyone aren't Gurbani. Kirtan is supposed to be done of Gurbani. Only Guru writes Gurbani. So you accept that maanu is your Guru? Just just repeating what illeterate mannu is repeating. Did you also participate in the child and women molestations? If not, then why are you defending him? Or does he give you commision for defending him on internet? If you didn't know humans have teeth on top and on bottom. Cows and Buffalos don't. They aren't made to eat meat. Humans are made to eat both. Guru Sahib never goes against Akaal so Guru Sahib never banned us from eating meat. Go read the Shabad on Pg. 1289. You guys just been brainwashed into brahmanvaad. Go to Afganistan, meat is served there. Go to any nihung Gurudwara, meat is served there.

My email is there. You can contact me on msn if you want. As for the fight, I said with a true jhatka eating nihung. I am not a jhatka eating nihung. I posted what kuchee bani is. Where did mannu bring in the 5 pyaras and Guru Sahib and sahibzaas? How low is he going to go to promote dharna? As for what I am writing, I speak the truth under Nanak name. I only belong to Akaal and Nanak-Guru Gobind Singh Ji. I am preaching the truth with hukam of Akaal.

I start a meat debate, there is a problem. When others start it in other debates. There is no problem. Some guy asked about what to do if only halal is served. Anti-meaters come in and attack saying meat is wrong. Don't eat it, don't eat it. Making their own marayada and causing division. There is no problem. When I type something, there is a big problem. Why the jealousy? As for giving warnings and bans. Khalsa isn't scared of cheap bans or warnings. Namastang banned me from his website a long time ago. Is preaching Panthic maryada wrong?

Ok! So lets start here. Hardeep! Go read rehras and see the differene between humans and animals. Who says plants don't have feelings or soul? Of course they do. As for making tablas and nagaras from already dead animals. Doesn't happen. Some dhals were made of Gaindaa skin. Where are you going to find a dead gaindaa? How about dhals made from muggarmush skin? Where are you going to find a dead muggarmush? Don't you kill God's creation when you kill plants? Dimaag wich nukas hai? How about using pesticides to kill animals in farms? Isn't that God's creation? How about killing rats that come into your house? Isn't that killing God's creation? God gave us jungles. Taking down jungles to build houses, isn't that killing God's creation? Do you brush your teeth? If yes, toothpaste has animal products in it. Same goes for soap and ice cream. The wood that is burned to cook food also has insects in it. Isn't that killing God's creation? How about the lion that is in Anandpur Sahib? When that was killed, wasn't God's creation killed? As for proof of meat being eaten during Guru Ji's times. Read Mohsan Fani. He was alive during Guru Ji's time and even had meeting with Guru Ji. He mentions meat eating by Sikhs. What happened when Guru Gobind Singh Ji went to Madho Dass dera? Read some history. As for what does meat have to do with wife, don't you sleep with your wife? Isn't meat enjoyed then? Ever eaten yogurt? Take a look at it with a microscope. See how many organisms run around.

kachi Bani is anything sung like kirtan and is not composed by Guru Sahib. You don't even know what kuchee bani is and you talk smack. From some of the previous posts, it shows H4rinder has no sharda or respect for Guru Ji. His guru is the se cual beast named maanu bheva or pehova. Are the kuchee dharna composed by mannu better than Guru Ji's beautiful bani? Why can't he sing it? He doesn't want to memorize it? Maanu is a wanna be Guru just like anyone else who sings dharna. As for the big time mahpursh being wrong, they have been wrong. To continue to make mistakes is stupid. Everyone except Guru and God make mistakes. You still didn't answer the meat question. Personaly, i think bheva eats it. Just look at his size. He prob. can't even walk 1 mile. Forget about running. Why do babas ban meat? Because meat has a lot of fat and protein and babas are lazy so if they eat meat, the chance of heart attack increases. For a person like me, who is active and runs a lot, meat is helthy once in a while. I open challenge a veggie person to fight a true jhatka eating nihung and see who wins.

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In the puratan times, there was no jathaydaar of Akaal Takht. There was a sevadaar. All the sevadar did was take care of the complex. Panth got together every so often and reached conclusions on any issues that came up. Also those people dissing Akaal Takht and its maryada, should learn one thing. Akaal Takht maryada was made by the whole Panth. Not only 1 person. As for meat in langar, if you read Bhai Veer Singh. He says there was meat served in langar during Guru Ji's times. Ever taken the time to read Shabad on Pg. 12889? Maat Pitaa Kee Rukat Nipunnay Mushee Maas Naa Khaahee? Those who try to use words like eat humans too. This is just idiotic and stupid comment. Humans are our own species and human life is important. Ever read rehras or at least with aarth? People who don't even know why they are here, preach against eating meat. If you hate meat and meat eaters, then you must hate Akali Foola Singh, Hari Singh Nalwa, Jassa Singhs, Baba Binod Singh, Baba Deep Singh, Sukha Singh. Mehtab Singh, thus you hate all puratan Shaheeds. Evil people. Vegetarians are evil from the inside. You consume meat too if you do any of the following: Eat ice cream Brush your teeth Use soap Use tablas Use Nagaras Use sugar Have a wife Drank your mother's milk So you do nothing but pakhand. Just a Bunch of Pakhandis (JBP).

Every single hukamnaamaa written by Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib Ji starts with: "guru guru japna janam savar sangat dee kamnaa guru pooree karraygaa. Sangatee da ruzgaar hog, ik daasee rahinaa. Maas muchee day naray nahee avanaa." What is mass? Flesh? Don't go near flesh? Where do you go them? If you go home, you see flesh. If you go out, you see flesh. If you run ti jungles, you see flesh. Everywhere you go, you meet species of flesh. Fake hukamnama. Doesn't make sence. Akaal Takht rehat maryada says not to eat halal. Case closed. You know more than Akaal Takht? Have you done more research than the Panth? If Panthic marayda says you can eat, you can. If you think you got better research and you know what you are talking about. Take your case to Akaal Takht, if they agree to your point and change the maryada, I will accept it.

1. H4rinde, do you accept the Akaal Takht hukamnama when it says there should not be multiple Akhand Paaths? 2. When it says ok to Mahaparsaad (meat)? 3. When it says no to joats and naarreals? 4. When it says no to Dharna? Those decisions were made by Panth and before badal influence. As for Vedanti, he isn't even a Sikh. He himself is a pujari os sakhee server. He didn't say anything to Chicago wala because Chicago wala prob. has videos of vedanti getting massages from gorees in Chicago. Vedanti isn't jathaydaar of Akaal Takht. Someone else is.

Very Very good kurtas! I will add to it. Appointment of SGPC cheif. Badal's buddies choose a group of corrupt people who will do as badal says. Badal will then choose one of them. SGPC members will vote him as the SGPC cheif. Appointment of Jathaydaar Badal Takht: Badal sees a list of candidates. Most morally corrupt and gutless person is chosen as Jathaydaar. SGPC chief remains SGPC chief as long as he/she does as badal says. Badal Takht jathaydaar stays as jathaydaar as long as he does as badal says.

Guru Nanak Ji's actual birth date is in vaisakh. Thus the celebrations on Vaisakhi from puratan times.