Shaheed Singh Khalsa

Gurfateh

I had to take a brief moment out of retirement to say that, that video was the most comical thing I've seen since Benny Hill was alive.

I spoke to Pat t'o'doors (the grand master of hop scotch), the other day and he told me that he prefers Rockys veggie wrap over the 'Halal non-chatka horse meat served at McDougals' "Too doo doo too doo... Mmmm he ain't loving it"

Seriously some of these Sanathan kids have taken one too many slaps to the head! Please wake up

Anyway, just like Kizer Sozay... I'm goneeeeeeeeeeee

We are having our bathroom redun so wich way is bad 4a toilet? Wo happens to u if u use it in wrong direction? Does it apply if u use it standin up?

You will become highly constipated for 40 days and 40 nights. To beat this you might immediately hop on one leg while rubbing your tummy and hopping on one leg.

SATTTT SRIIII AKAAAALLLLLL

Kulfi - I love the way to surjitists all come along like buses at once and then all skate around the facts raised like armature Torvill and Dean’s... Vah Vah! Don’t worry about my Jeevan my friend, just like I told you before, I think you need to concentrate on yours with the mental focus of yoda.

So now let’s examine what you and your fellow surjitists have posted:

So when bhai Taran stated the facts about surjits penchant for chivas regal, kaka cisco stated “The alcohol stories about the Niddar Singh are pretty sensationalised though. Im not doubting if he drinks alcohol or not, but i've never heard the use of alcohol encouraged in his classes or any claims that you must drink to be a warrior...then again I only went to a few classes and this was over 2 years ago. I actually have personally heard the opposite said in classes..i.e: excess alcohol is no good for fitness and training”

Firstly I have to wonder why a person who has only been to a “few of surjit’s classes” takes so much time and valor to defend someone he has had so little contact with over two years ago. Secondly when I question kaka cisco’s use on the word “excess” when describing surjits stance on alcohol consumption,

He gives me some mickey mouse answer “we're talking about leaning a martial art here not about Sikhi or Kamaiy..Both your own Sikhi and Kamai is personal to an individual, you got to be pretty stupid to believe that consumption of alcohol is permitted or encouraged in Sikhi, it's obviously not.”… If that’s the case then why use the word excess?? The text book definition of excess is “More than is necessary, normal, or desirable; immoderate”

Anyway as you have now picked up the sword in your fellow surjitists defence, please answer the question I put to him:

“Do you believe that a "Gursikh" individuals Martial discipline can be separated from that persons Sikhi & kamaiy (from a Sikh perspective that is)??”

Now on to singh245, to who’s rescue you have come so beautifully. He starts off with the following:

“go head dude challenge nidar singh... he might have f'ed up ideology he is actually good at what he does”

So from your opening statement you believe that this is a genuine opinion, really? An opinion of what exactly, a stone? So the guy starts off trying to get someone in to a confrontation and then goes on to say that surjit has an “f'ed up ideology” (again his words, not mine), but then finishes off stating but he’s good and what he does… Need I say any more? We all know surjits silly little games in calling the authorities when challenged, so most Singhs choose not to roll around with pigs as I said before.

Now this is my actual reply to his comment, please tell me what part of these statements is “unlogical” – “That my young brother is called an Oxymoron. But those that believe that baba surjits "f'ed up ideology" can be ignored and that its ok to learn from him just because he's good at what he does, is just a plain and simple mo-ron” That all seems pretty straight forward and logical to me buddy!!!!!

I also made a comment about the young man’s grasp of the English language, so please feel free to point out the “unlogical” point made here too.

Now as for coming to meet you or any of your fellow surjitists, I will state this once again for you - I have no interest in rolling around with pigs as I like the lenor fresh smell of my clothes thank you very much + I now know the surjitists tactics too well, so “Compooter says NO”

I am pointing out the fact that this guy has betan all gatka masters no one has challeged him and beat him yet. well knowledge is knowledge little simple minded brother. in kaal jug you should get knowledge from where ever you can if someone is giving it to you.

Your grasp of the english language is second to none! The fact that surjit has "betan" all gatka master is open to debate my friend. The fact that no one has challanged him, may have something to do with the fact that most sane minded Gursikhs are well aware of the old saying - "if you roll around with pigs, you will stand up smelling of <banned word filter activated>".

Also the fact that you choose to ignore his "f'ed up ideology" (your words, not mine), just show what kind of grip kaal yug has on you and your plain and simple mind.

Ps. If you are looking for some additional knowledge, I have heard of this group called the BNP, who I'm sure will be more than happy to give you some knowledge about where nice little brown fella's like you should go back to!

go head dude challenge nidar singh... he might have f'ed up ideology he is actually good at what he does.

That my young brother is called an Oxymoron. But those that believe that baba surjits "f'ed up ideology" can be ignored and that its ok to learn from him just because he's good at what he does, is just a plain and simple mo-ron.

Thats excactly my point we're talking about leaning a martial art here not about Sikhi or Kamaiy..Both your own Sikhi and Kamai is personal to an individual, you got to be pretty stupid to believe that consumption of alcohol is permitted or encouraged in Sikhi, it's obviously not.

No different from if you went to learn KungFu from a drunken monk...does that mean that you should be a Alcoholic as well ? Or should you use your own brain and learn the Kung-fu ? Theres a degree of seperation from the personal life and views and actions of a individual and their career.

So you don’t agree that an "Gursikh" individuals Martial discipline cannot be separated from that persons Sikhi & kamaiy (from a Sikh perspective that is)?? We all know the consumption or Drugs and Alcohol are strictly not permitted in Sikhi, but that isn't what I or Bhai Taran Singh are questioning here, so stop playing silly buggers and deflecting dumbo. As for drunken master or kungfu these are of course brilliant martial traditions, but the fact remains that they do not have the same miri piri link to Waheguru the way that Gursikhi or the martial traditions of a Sikh does. You can consume whatever you want and be a master of those oriental arts with no problemo, but you cannot consume alcohol or drugs and be a Sikh martial traditions master - period. So if someone wishes to have the career of a "Shastar Vidiyah master" (and the last living one at that) and claims to be a "Gursikh" (one with such unadulterated access to young, impressionable Sikh children such as surjit does), then that persons "behind closed door" actions and views are very important to be available to the sadh sangat, so that they can make a fully informed decision about the character of such masters!!

"excess alcohol is no good for fitness and training" Cisco my friend you are seriously lost my brother and your cloak does not make your intentions invisable! "Excess" implies that "a small amount" or "some" is ok for a person. For a "Gursikh" to imply this, just shows that value of that persons kamaiy and Sikhi. Another bit of proof that people should stay well clear of surjit sin

To the OP, I am not a doctor nor have I studied sport sciences at an academic level, but I do suggest you do your own research and find the conclusion that works best for you, your body type, your current nutrition plan, the time you have available to dedicate to proper cardio, resistance weight training and finally the preparation and consumption of natural foods and supplements that compliment your fitness regime. Personally I do not use creatine because I try to keep all my supplementation to my diet as natural as possible.

Remember fitness and nutrition is a slow process that needs lots of hard work for lots of small gains. Anyone that doesn’t have patience will try to reduce the time it takes to see those gains and results to the detriment of their health. That’s why we have idiots ready to juice up just for ascetically what looks like progress!

Keep your Spiritual training and conditioning natural, keep your External training and conditioning natural and keep your Internal training and conditioning natural.

Waheguru

Waheguru

Waheguru

If ther 1 ting i respec dunda 4 its his stand on sants on . Most Sants luv making money off sangat. Its a grate earner. . . If U want lots o money power buildins be a sant. . . .

What language are you speaking there young anakin?

Listen anyone who advocates the consumption of -> Meat, Intoxicants incl. cannabis in the form of smoke or drink (& conveniently named something that sounds remotely Sikh like such as Shaheedi dehg) or Alcohol and justify it as being acceptable for a Gursikh was dropped on their head one too many times as a child... And I will happily come and meet anyone from and Jatha or Dal and say it to your face!

Alcohol is a natural by-product of anaerobic fermentation. Chances are pretty good that you are consuming some alcohol when you eat dhaee (yogurt).

Sikhs are not supposed to drink alcohol because it alters your state of mind, and once again leaves no room in your consciousness for God.

Alcohol is not toxic in itself, but too much alcohol is.

Too much vitamin A can also be toxic, but it is not inherently a toxic substance.

May Maharaj's kirpa shine bright in to your blind eyes. I have seen so called Sikhs justify whatever their lust desires with one false explanation or another! However the fact remains that the irrefutable Gurbani is the only thing that matters and those with love in their heart and the Gurus word on their lips will know what is the truth and see the fake for what it is.

Han ji,

I was speaking from a Sikh point of view.

We don't cut our hair because god has given it as a gift to all humans. With the same logic, God has made humans meat eaters. We have canine teeth, meant for tearing flesh.

I am adding points from a scientific background, in addition to the points from Gurbani stated by the woman in the video.

So please inform us when was the last time you used your canines to eat an animal raw the way that every other animal on this planet uses there's? When was the last time you went out and caught our own food and then plucked and cooked it with your own hands?? You are deluded to think that humans are meant to eat animals. I request anyone with love in their heart to watch the way the goat butchered at Sri Hazoor Sahib cries before being meaninglessly slaughtered. Anyone that thinks that is an action of Compassionate person or someone with love in their heart needs their head tested... Just because its happening today doesn't mean that it was ordained by our Guru Sahiban's.

Offer something with an clean and open heart for sure, but why on earth would you give someone £20? What was his need, that warrented £20? A pound or three yes maybe, but £20.00?!?!? are you loaded? If so, I will happily give you my bank details and you can send me some of that cash burning a hole in your pajaama.

I always give homeless people a couple of quid but I always first ask them whats your poison to which 99.99% of the time they will always reply "nah mate, I'm clean" to which ALWAYS reply "don't spend my hard earned money on Booze or Gear!" - what they do after that is between them and Waheguru, but I give with a clean heart and open hand!

Huh??

Thanks for pointing out to the pointless conversation, you are also not doing smart thing to post on this post :D

My brother I think you misunderstood my initial post which was aimed at Bluespaces comment about you needing a green card. I wish you all the best in your quest for your Amritdhari kaur. Waheguru

Hello Everyone,

So I have been recently married in to a family who are big believers of Baba Kashmira Singh. My mother - in - law is one of the hardcore believers among the entire family who is pushing me to say satnam every time we greet each other and to listen to Satsang. Prior to my wedding, she wanted to take my picture and show it to this person to approve for his son. My parents denied and they had to get over this because their son was illegal in the country and I was a US citizen. I have been brought up with believing in Guru Granth Sahib ji and I'm a big believer and go to the Gurdwara. I read Jap Ji Sahib and simran Waheguru Satnam constantly.

Before marriage, they never brought up the fact that I was going to be pushed in to believing their belief. I had told my fiance who is now my husband that, I will never believe in a person who you consider hazoor in the way your family does. He was fine with it before and he is fine with it now. But his mother and sister think that I'm away from Gurbani because I don't listen to Satsang. Even after I have told her that I do path day and night and for me that is everything.

I told her i can't drop wahegure from Satnam. If you want me to greet you, I will say both not just Satnam by itself. This family doesn't believe in going to the Gurdwara. They only go to Baba Kashmira's dera located in Jalandhar.

It is now a constant struggle with the family because I'm always being pushed to their beliefs. They believe in Baba Kashmira as he is god. That his words are words of god which I am seriously disgusted by. They don't even consider calling him baba ji, instead they call him "hazoor". He tells his followers to only believe in Satnam becuase, waheguru is not written in Guru Granth Sahib anywhere and that Waheguru was written and given god's name by man itself. But what's ironic is that Rakhri is not part of our religion, but on the day of Rakhri, his followers go and tie rakhri on his wrist and among them of course are my in laws as well. Because they consider him their rakshak. It's like, if you're so prone to following god's word, then why have rakhri part of your preaching too.

Please help on how to deal with this dilemma as I don't want to compromise with my beliefs that I have been brought up by. That is to preach to Guru Granth sahib only and to simran gurbani at all times.

Thanks

My sister thanks for sharing your story with the sahd sangat... It is your duty as a strong Gursikh of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Maharaj to stay steadfast in your faith in the truth without creating conflict with your inlaws. I know that's easier said then done but only you know the personal situation you are in, so only you will know how to really deal with the situation at hand. This is a good opportunity for you to bring these people back to Maharaj's path of saach from the inside.

May Waheguru's kirpa guide you and keep you in chardi kala

Taranbir sure u not looking for a greencard....be honest.... You willl make her happy etc but u really want to be pakha....

What a stupid and pointless post! Try applying this advice next time you post my brother - "if what you've got to say isn't positive or productive, then best not to say it at all"

Taranbir paaji Sikhnet has a section for matrimonial's and there quiet a lot of the sisters on there that are of Gursikh roop and from the US, have you tried that platform?

Hi Guys

I am non-Sikh of Christian background who is planning to visit the Punjab in late March and plan to get baptised there, is it possible to stay with a amritdhari Sikh family during my stay there?

I bow to you my Brother. Waheguru

This was a very clever move by looking at people who were at this ekta event in derby. I hope Baba Ram Singh doesnt regret meeting some of the political members. I am all for ekta and it should happen, do what you preach both organisations should be united within them selves, we clearly know that there are splits within DT and within AKJs

This is not a panthic ekta as its just factions of each organisation trying to come together.

Our respect goes to Damdami Taksal which was created by our 10 th master Dhan Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji, the pratan maryada still remains today whether its Baba Harnam Singh or Baba Ram Singh.

You can call Baba Harnaam Singh sarkari but let me tell you something Baba Harnam Singh is the current Head of Damdami Taksal whether you like it or not. What Baba ji has achieved has been great for the Sikh panth a Shaheedi Yaadghar in remembrance of 1984. Which we have struggled in last 29 years.

Its ok for you to say what you want because you got the freedom of speech here, if you want to talk lets do it in Punjab.

Gur pyrio Action talks louder than words. Which many many organisations still need to prove.

Sorry I'm lost what will talking in Panjab achieve??

Real ekta is when people rise from their stuck up/wrap up perception of samparda's and jatha's - see khalsa panth with 360 degree angle with eagle eyes- take good things from all samparda's and jatha- leave the bad rubbish/manmat aside and attach their loyalty/pay allegiance only to khalsa panth which was created in 1699 period and read ugardanti in introspect how maharaj will destroy everything so that his sikhs can rise above and smell the real sikhi..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spot on!

I was reading around on the net, and according to historians, Jesus was most likely actually born the year 8BC...so if our year system is based on his birth, it should really be the year 2021 right now haha :biggrin2:

I would Write to the custodian of the yearly calendar printing association, because it seems you may have a point there my dear brother ;-) That's "if" Jesus was indeed his real name at all!?!? Either way Sarbat da bhala

Waheguru, Waheguru, Waheguru, Waheguru, Waheguru, Waheguru