Raaj.Karega.Khalsa

i think so too

In my opinion, bad as it sounds, he was a sad, pathetic, attention - seeking, "live and let live" speaking, anorexic <banned word filter activated>.

LOL Now i know why he went on that fast, he had anorexia.

hehhheLOL its the first time i have read this and i realize how true it is.........ANOREXIC <banned word filter activated> hehhhe LOL :cool:

seen a same story some years ago ....................but just exactly the other way round...

sorry i m of no use.........i mean i m quite young to give a good advise

sat sri akaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal!

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veerjio,

i do not know much about this forum since i m new here. i normally log on to discoversikhi.com. i have sent some links according to the time i had right now jee. i hope they suffice.

waheguruji ka khalsa waheguruji ki fateh jio.

yeah i noticed that too..........and i agree with harwinder veerji...........thats not lately but it was so previously toooo ( ).

and infact that pisses me off ......... :cool:

sangat still has its own importance.........a good 'sangat' i.e. company helps you build up your personality..........having a sikh sangat will help you neva get distractes 4m guruji........staying alone might&nbsp;push you in depression at times.....and a bad sangat -----in a ditch...........

i believe having some sangat esp. sikh sangat is really very important!!!

plz forgive 4 any mistake......

dyiK kutMbu moih loBwxw clidAw nwil n jweI ]

dhaekh kutanmb mohi lobhaanaa chaladhiaa naal n jaaee ||

Beholding your family, you are lured away by emotional attachment, but when you leave, they will not go with you.

jnin ipqw lok suq binqw koie n iks kI DirAw ]

janan pithaa lok suth banithaa koe n kis kee dhhariaa ||

Mothers, fathers, friends, children and spouses-no one is the support of anyone else.

<BR>dyiK kutMbu moih loBwxw clidAw nwil n jweI ]<BR>dhaekh kutanmb mohi lobhaanaa chaladhiaa naal n jaaee ||<BR>Beholding your family, you are lured away by emotional attachment, but when you leave, they will not go with you.<BR><BR>jnin ipqw lok suq binqw koie n iks kI DirAw ]<BR>janan pithaa lok suth banithaa koe n kis kee dhhariaa ||<BR>Mothers, fathers, friends, children and spouses-no one is the support of anyone else.<BR>

<BR>dyiK kutMbu moih loBwxw clidAw nwil n jweI ]<BR>dhaekh kutanmb mohi lobhaanaa chaladhiaa naal n jaaee ||<BR>Beholding your family, you are lured away by emotional attachment, but when you leave, they will not go with you.<BR><BR>jnin ipqw lok suq binqw koie n iks kI DirAw ]<BR>janan pithaa lok suth banithaa koe n kis kee dhhariaa ||<BR>Mothers, fathers, friends, children and spouses-no one is the support of anyone else.<BR>

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!!!

ok erm.... i knw this gurl yer...we had a camp couple of months ago n shes realy into sikhi now...but her paretns r putting her down..thev stopped her coming to gurudwara and she snot been able to learn path etc...one of her fmaily memebrs r getting married and she has to attend that wedding becuse she being forced to...also they said shes got to tkae her patka off....cut her facial hair....dance etc wear a lenga at the wedding she relay dont wnat to she in tears!!!! n i jst siad dnt go buh she says theyl force her etc...and ive even siad let my parents talk to them shes says no cuse theyl prob treat her worse than there treating her now...she says they say why dont u bleech them..ur not cutting them....its just for one day buh if hse does it once theyl keep aksin her ova n ova agin to di it agian n again so please some 1 give me advise n tel me what i should tel ehr to do!!!! ive asked her to keep doing ardas!!! plz healp

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru ji ki fateh!!!

erm bhenji how old is she?-----------that'll prolly set up if she can argue for not being treated so?

Does the argument simply boil down to a personal interpretation of who is or isn't an official "sant"? There is no whos who directory for "sants" in Sikhi, because Maharaj outlines the attributes of a sant and for all our squabbling and arguing looks like we (the devotee, the sant siphai, the learner) will always fall short of ever achieving those attributes. For all the many lives we have gone through, I wonder how many times we keep having the same discussion, maybe that's why we are still struggling to get out of the chaurasi lakh joon.

Bhairao, Fifth Mehl

sant kee nindaa jonee bhavnaa.

Slandering the Saints, the mortal wanders in reincarnation.

sant kee nindaa rogee karnaa.

Slandering the Saints, he is diseased.

sant kee nindaa dookh sahaam.

Slandering the Saints, he suffers in pain.

daan dait nindak ka-o jaam. ||1||

The slanderer is punished by the Messenger of Death. ||1||

satsang karahi jo baad.

Those who argue and fight with the Saints

tin nindak naahee kichh saad. ||1|| rahaa-o.

- those slanderers find no happiness at all. ||1||Pause||

bhagat kee nindaa kanDh chhaydaavai.

Slandering the devotees, the wall of the mortal's body is shattered.

bhagat kee nindaa narak bhunchaavai.

Slandering the devotees, he suffers in hell.

bhagat kee nindaa garabh meh galai.

Slandering the devotees, he rots in the womb.

bhagat kee nindaa raaj tay talai. ||2||

Slandering the devotees, he loses his realm and power. ||2||

nindak kee gat kathoo naahi.

The slanderer finds no salvation at all.

aap beej aapay hee khaahi.

He eats only that which he himself has planted.

chor jaar joo-aar tay buraa.

He is worse than a thief, a lecher, or a gambler.

anhodaa bhaar nindak sir Dharaa. ||3||

The slanderer places an unbearable burden upon his head. ||3||

paarbarahm kay bhagat nirvair.

The devotees of the Supreme Lord God are beyond hate and vengeance.

so nistarai jo poojai pair.

Whoever worships their feet is emancipated.

aad purakh nindak bholaa-i-aa.

The Primal Lord God has deluded and confused the slanderer.

naanak kirat na jaa-ay mitaa-i-aa. ||4||21||34||

O Nanak, the record of one's past actions cannot be erased. ||4||21||34||

^you r absolutely right jio

but!!!!!!!

i think the topic starter had the same thing in mind........(i feel so))))))

that the word 'SANT' or 'BABA' has becum a title these dayz ... :sady:

whereas baba is normally a word for the wise.......and sant ....many have already xplained ji

i think that the problem of these words becoming a title these days is the actual thing we shud be discussing about........because we r all here to learn......and discuss in open...

ok

now baba is i think okay if we call someone because that only means to refer someone who is wise

but when we call someone 'SANT'.......i feel its something irrelevant......coz its actually only guruji who knowz the inner core of the hearts of all.......

who knowz that the person we keep on calling a 'SANT' is a thug in actuall terms

and this is something that i have been thinking recently.....bhai gurdaas ji. bhai mani singh ji, baba deep singh ji etc. ........were no less than the 'SANTS' of today!!!

why don't we start calling them as well as sants???????

i think it is a wrong trend these dayz......and we shud try to stop it by and by.

and another......for sant baba jarnail singh ji............i call him the same way too........

because that is how everyone call him ji.......

and if i just talk to sumone like ......jarnail singh ji.......the other one is just gonna be like :cool: ???????

who???

but i think even for him i shud start saying 'BABA JARNAIL SINGH JI BHINDRANWALE'

because 'BABA' word doesn't matter coz he WAZ actually wise

'JI' is a word for respect

and 'BHINDRANWALE' is how he is known.

but his awastha is only known by guruji....

so from now onwards i shall try to stop refering him to as sant coz only guruji knowz

we know nothing ji

oh!!!!!!!!!!thats toooooo long i think!!!

Gurufateh!

i dnt know about that - BUT people call me sexist or wuteva - but i dont think Bibi'an just DECIDE to take part as Panj Pyare - i mean Panj Pyare are Singh males - when the time came and the Panj Pyare were being made - women should have thought about it then that maybe they should have got up. Besides IN MY OPINION - Panj Pyare should remain as Singh males.

lol sorry i know u was just askin about the Parshaad but u know - Panj Pyare situation came in my mind

people dont get offended by what i said - its just my opnion chunga? :TH:

Gurufateh1

i know that the user has just described his/her own opinion.

but i have thought about this a lots many times.

like why izit that the women of today's world should be bound according to what sth. shud/ or shud not have happened 3-4 centuries ago!!!!!?!?!??!?!??

i mean take the circumstances which were in india at those times when women weren't allowed to come alone out of their homes.........they had to cover their faces ----------GHUND KADNA...............and like they had nothing called a social status unless it was a princess or a queen.......i mean even a princess or queen was taken here and there in a covered palanquin...........

but everything's changed

the women of those times CANNOT be compared to the ones that are today.

women today are more open and self-dependent...........

i know of some situations where people say..."esp. 'girls' shud not get baptized b'coz they got to get married and go to an another home and what if the other family are not vegetarians or so......!!!!!"

but ofcourse it not as much anymore..........

so i think rules shud change here too.............

why shud women be bound acc. to what the women in 17th century cudn't do?!?!?!?

oh!!!! and please anyone....do not take it personally ......... i mean it has often been a topic of discussion for me .... so i mean i thought to put it forward.

heheh still thinking? lol

hanji lol... :cool: :TH:

GOOD GOOD chunga hundaaa sochnaa vi sometimes so what ju thinkin?

i dnt even remember this far back lol * i think am ruinin ur thread - sorry * lol

hehhhe sooooo funny

well

kaur khalistani lioness bhenji.....even i m still thinking and thinking and thinking and thinking..... like the user above

o o oooooooooooooopz

i forgot to reply to the actual topic

well, honestly, even i m sumtimes curious about it.........

i m not sure if sikhi is the only way to reach god ............but erm i think sikhi shud be taken better as a lifestyle than a religion............because...........in a religion one can make choices to follow...........but erm i think.........either is one a sikh......or not!!!!! ((((((((((therefore......no more choices)))))))))))))

because sikh means a student....and we r the students of guruji. when we follow what he says we will be called sikhs..............if not...........then not!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go marry her man if you love her but in order to make it work you have consider couple of things and found out whats her beleifs, dont get yourself or your future kid (only if you planning) sunnat(circumised) or follow islamic rituals that sri guru nanak dev ji in 10 jots proved wrong.

if she is sunni, dump her and run, there are 99 percent chance her family into shariaism. Its not going to work, its not going to work as it will not work if you marry someone from sikh panth who loves sharia (katar) mindset. if she is suffi, or if she is in mysticism then go ahead consider it. because sikhi mysticm, hindu mysticism, sufi mysticism are one and same based prema bhakti marg and are on same track towards merging with ocean (parmanand vahiguroo/ram/allah).

If sikhs have problem with you marrying an muslim girl whose in to sufi mysticism just show them example of baba farid ji, he was muslim mystic yet also consider sikh because his writings are included in Dhan Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

Thats is my honest advice. I am sure i ll get a label of anti-panthic, panthic dusth soon.. just waiting for it already..haha..sarcasm.

And my above advise is only for you if you are both in mysticism of your own religion, if you are into shariaism within their own faith, its not going to work, dont even try.

so please dont take it out of context.

^that was a really cool advise. i mean the threadstarter veerji is asking for sum advise and not for comments on whateva he has done .......and by the way i think its alwayz nice when we don't coment upon whateva has happened and better help this veerji decide being his brothers and sistas to cum out of this situation without being tensed..........

mad respekt to you namstang ji

http://www.bhorasahib.com/Atam%20updesh.htm

Why are you so engrossed in worries? Why are you afraid of some one? Who may kill you? The soul is immortal; it neither dies nor takes birth.

The present is here and now, the past is irrecoverable and the future will be good. Don't fret over the past and don't be worried about the future. The present is going on.

Why do you cry? What did you lose? When you were born, what did you bring along, which has been lost? What did you produce which has been perished? It is here that you gained and it is here that you lose. The man comes to; and goes from world, empty handed.

What you own today was not yours yesterday and will not be yours tomorrow. It does not and will not belong to anyone. You consider it your own and rejoice. This happiness of possession leads you to utter grief.

Yours is this world. Start from where you feel to; stay where you desire and wind up where you want to. It has no beginning and no end. You don't fear anyone, but yourself. You are the fright and also the frightened.

Change is the truth of life. What you consider as death is life in reality. In a moment a multi-millionaire is turned pauper. Give up the feeling of possession, great & the mean; differentiation of friend & foe. Then all is yours and you for everyone. Your corporeal being is a product of air, water and fire and it merges into the same leaving behind neither blood nor bones. Still yours existence remains the same. Then ponder over what you are.

Wake up! and become the eternal sons of the Almighty. You are the great and unique manifestation of Nature's power. All the divine powers are possessed by you, like a tree hidden in the seed.

In fact you don't fear anybody; you don't have any worry, suspicion, pain or grief. You are His dear ones. Surrender yourself completely to Him.

Always, remember the "Waheguru" (God) to achieve salvation. Let your life be guided by the saying "Whatever God wills, is good". Be content with the will of God. Remember Him both in pleasure & pain.

kooooooooooooool thanx ji

that was really inspirational..........

waheguruji ka khalsa waheugurji ki fateh jio

well i think the main thing is to NOT to have the kaam feelings in ourselves....b'coz calling sum1 or not calling sum1 as penji or veerji doesn't make a difference as much as your effort in stopping these feelings does......due to the human hormones these feelings are quite natural...........the thing is to make effort by reciting the naam...........

i m a moorakh ................i dunno anything jio

but pleez just don't be angry if you don't like the views i just gave ............i mean like you people tend to just attack the other if you do not agree ..........erm well, sorry if anything oversaid ji