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Some information on sewapanthis:

http://www.sewapanthi.org/

In Akaal Ustat Guru Gobind Singh Ji says,

jaap ke keeye te jo pai payut ajaap dev. pudna sadeev tuhi tuhi ucharat hai.

If it were possible to realise through jaap alone, then the Pudna bird that utters 'tuhi tuhi' (would be realised).

Guru Ji says again and again, do jap naam. Vaheguru is gurmantar. What is naam?

yea..a nihung just can't get married. that is apart of their rehat.

Lots of nihangs are married.

A kathakaar is currently in UK still i believe... he had no legs, and was in a wheelchair. However, he left his wheelchair OUTSIDE the darbaar and "crawled" with what he had towards Maharaj. It was so emotional and beautiful to see.

Maharaj, take my limbs, but please PLEASE Maharaj... i always want to be able to do your darshan...

In india, we see criples and disabled people crawl to see maharaj because thats the love they have.

If we truly want to see maharaj, we will get on our hands and knees if need be to see him.

Wen i was young, a boy had a bad disability, he cudnt walk properly so his parents used to hold him while he walked, if he didnt have the support of another, he wasnt able to stand. He wud walk in or crawl in. Once, at a nagar keertan, he came in the wheel chair, he REFUSED to use it. He said why should he be able to sit and be pushed the way, he wants to walk. Normally he wud take the chair but this particular year he didnt. (remember i sed, he cudnt walk without the aid of another, and with that, it was a very slow pace..)

He CRAWLED the length of the nagar keertan as he has so much pyaar for maharaj.

I personally believe any chair or seating higher then the floor is incorrect in a darbaar. People can get darshan, Gurdwara where i reside, they keep the doors open so people can sit outside on chairs if need be and stil get darshan / listen to keertan / paath / keertan.

In puratan days, they had no wheel chairs, so why do we need them to see Guru Ji? People had disabilities then to, its just we expect everything here coz its england and the law ensures disabled access.

Gurdwaras do provide disabled access, flat entry to the doors, lifts where applicable. But they DONT need to change the darbar. Maharaj knew everything, why is it so difficult for us to come to terms with that? he knows the future, he IS the future..

I apologise if people find this post upsetting, but we expect to much coz we live in the western world. If we lived with the basics, we wudnt complain, we wud get around it. We just think we are better then Guru Ji now, seriously that is in effect the way we are.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

What about someone who cannot crawl?

What if they are quadraplegic?

What about someone who cannot sit on the floor?

The issue is not why has the symbol changed. Historically there has always been a variety of Nishan Sahibs. The symbols (if any) and the colours varied phenomenally.

Within the last 100 years there has been a standardisation of the kesri colour and the Khanda symbol as we know it today. The real question should be why are we so intolerant of any deviation from this contemporary design? And why are 99% of us ignorant of our history?

lol. When I first read the topic I thought it said "Singh Caught Trying To Inflate Dera Sirsa"

You hear it speak, for it has a hard tongue. But it cannot breathe, for it has not a lung. What is it?

A shoe?

is Guruka Singh going to be at the camp this year?

I don't know. [From what I've heard] he's not going to be there, but they are going to fly over some other speakers.

But don't take my word for it.

Admin, thanks for putting it up on the first post.

Thanks for responding to my questions Bijla Singh. I will reply in more detail when I have time.

..the questions you have asked are not new, they have been answered many times(some even by sant ji) i dont see why there should be a different answer this time.

Then why don't you post the answers here? Or just tell the truth, which is that you cannot answer them!

' a good thing is noone tells you what to do' how do you learn then??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXs0yFh_rag...ted&search= - check that video out

You're taking the statement literally and out of context. If you listen to what they say, you'd realise that they mean no one is forcing them to do anything. No one is there telling them they have to do this or they have to do that. Instead they are encouraged and inspired to follow Sikhi and have love for Maharaaj.

but then dont they take it all so lightly and think more freely of themselves?? because then theyd be listening to their mind, and in sikhi mind has to be controlled to achieve the goals for every sikh.

anyway for this years camp could you please make sure they dont do that finger thing and say vaheguru, not right at all man.

Again you've misinterpreted. Let me put it another way. You can either tell someone they have to get up at amritvela and do naam simran, or you can encourage and inspire people to do it. You can either enforce something, or lead by example.

There were many people from different backgrounds at the camp last year, some of whom had never had any kind of experience of Sikhi. If crossing two of their fingers helps them into their Sikhi then fair do's to them. It's not something I'd personally do because I associate it with ghetto rap culture.

Many people on this thread have said that Khalistan "is a must". To fight for something, you must first know what you are fighting for. So please could the pro-Khalistani's answer these questions as I am a little confused on exactly what Khalistan will be.

1. What will the borders of Khalistan be? Please be as specific as possible.

2. If the borders extend into Pakistan, should we fight against the Pakistani government as well as the Indian government?

3. What will the form of government for Khalistan be? Will there be a democracy?

4. Will Khalistan allow the free expression of religion regardless of people's beliefs? Will halal meat be allowed in the country? Will wine be allowed?

5. There have been numerous cases of fights (and even murders) during election time at gurdwaras. How will you ensure that an entire country of Sikhs will remain peaceful?

6. In the years after 1984, many young Sikhs were killed in the armed struggle for Khalistan. Most of these deaths were at the hands of the Punjab Police who were 80% Sikh. So most of the deaths were Sikh on Sikh violence. Given that, how will you ensure that something like that will not happen again?

7. It is difficult to think of anything happening with Punjab politics without some form of corruption involved. The same goes for the SGPC, which runs the Akaal Takht, the highest throne of the Sikhs. How will you weed out corruption which is so ingrained into the Punjabi lifestyle and mindset?

8. Whatever the borders of Khalistan are, it will not have direct access to the sea. How will Khalistan trade with the outside world if it is at odds with India and Pakistan (bearing in mind any air freight would have to go through their airspace)?

9. Punjab is a semi-arid region. Without the rivers running through it, it would rapidly turn to desert. All of the rivers running into Khalistan would first come through India. India has diverted river water in the past from Punjab to Haryana, but cannot divert any more because of the public outcry and political minefield they would be entering. With no duty to the citizens of Khalistan, how would you prevent India from diverting ALL river flows from entering Khalistan causing it to turn to desert?

10. Agriculture is pretty much the only industry in Punjab (bar tourism). With the animosity likely to be faced from India and Pakistan and the trade barriers and huge farming subsidies in the West, who would the farmers of Khalistan sell their produce to? And if they are unable to sell beyond the borders of Khalistan competitively, how will you ensure there is not a wholesale collapse of the farming industry in Khalistan?

Those are a few of the questions I can think of. I have many more, but would like to hear responses to those above before I continue. And these are not questions that can be answered later. Before you can fight for something, you have to know what you are fighting for! Your answers will make Khalistan more than just a fanciful idea.

Personally I cannot see how Khalistan could possibly ever work, but I hope someone can prove me wrong...

joiq rUip hir Awip gurU nwnku khwXau ]

The Embodiment of Light, the Lord Himself is called Guru Nanak.

Awip nrwiexu klw Dwir jg mih prvirXau ]

The Lord Himself wielded His Power and entered the world.

inrMkwir Awkwru joiq jg mMfil kirXau ]

The Formless Lord took form, and with His Light He illuminated the realms of the world.

' a good thing is noone tells you what to do' how do you learn then??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXs0yFh_rag...ted&search= - check that video out

You're taking the statement literally and out of context. If you listen to what they say, you'd realise that they mean no one is forcing them to do anything. No one is there telling them they have to do this or they have to do that. Instead they are encouraged and inspired to follow Sikhi and have love for Maharaaj.

Here are Guruka Singh's reviews of Sikh Student Camp:

Blog 1

Blog 2

Sikh Student Camp 2007

5 - 11th August

Miss it, miss out!

Check out the trailer:

Trailer

www.sikhstudent.org

Admin, please can you put the details of Sikh Student Camp on the first post as well.

Thanks

Does anyone know where Akhand Jaaps started from?

1, How many of each animal did Moses take on the ark?

2, How many bricks does it take to complete a building made of brick?

3, Forward I am heavy, but backward I am not. What am I?

4, I am used to bat with, yet I never get a hit. I am near a ball, yet it is never thrown. What am I?

5, Before Mount Everest was discovered, what was the highest mountain on Earth?

Sorry Papi I couldn't think of any jokes. :TH:

2.. one, the last one

4. Eyelashes :devil:

Dont no bout others. A:gg:

Try these

1.While walking across a bridge I saw a boat full of people. Yet on the boat there wasn't a single person. Why?

2.What happens twice in a week, and once in a year, but never in a day?

3.Twelve pears hanging high, twelve men passing by.

Each took a pear and left eleven hanging there.

How can this be?

4. Which moves faster: heat or cold?

1, THEY WERE ALL MARRIED

2, E

3, ONE WAS CALLED MAN EACH?!?!?!?!??

TELL ME WHEN YA GIVE UP

4. Heat. Cold doesn't exist. It's just the lack of heat.

1, How many of each animal did Moses take on the ark?

2, How many bricks does it take to complete a building made of brick?

3, Forward I am heavy, but backward I am not. What am I?

4, I am used to bat with, yet I never get a hit. I am near a ball, yet it is never thrown. What am I?

5, Before Mount Everest was discovered, what was the highest mountain on Earth?

Sorry Papi I couldn't think of any jokes. :TH:

1. Moses parted the Red Sea. Noah was the one with the Ark.

2. 1?

3. ton

4. eyelid

5. Mount Everest, although it wasn't called that then.

There is an island in the middle of a lake up in Maine (of the United States). A man travels from the main land over to the island. He rides over on a tractor. How is this possible?

Using the letters from "new door", change them to make one word.

What flies when it is born, lies when it is alive, and runs when it dies?

1. He rides over a bridge connecting the island to the mainland.

The lake is frozen.

There is a tunnel from the mainland to the island.

The water is very shallow.

2. one word

3. No idea!

A lady shoots her husband.

Then she held him under water for over five minutes.

Finally, she hung him.

But 5 minutes later they both went out together and enjoy a wonderful dinner together.

She shoots a picture of him, holds his picture under water for it to develop, then hangs it up to dry.

What signals the beginning of the end, but only occurs twice in all of eternity?

i got one (its well rubbish haha)

a cockrel lays an egg on a hill- theres no wind - which way does the egg roll? north, south, west or east?

That's got to be some weird cockerel to lay an egg!!

Ok Peeps got another one, wonder if anyone will ever get this?

Riddle 4: A king has two sons. To decide which son will become king, he makes them race each other to a nearby city. However, the contest is that whichever son's horse makes it to the city last will become king, so it is the each of the sons' objective to get to the city last. So the two sons set off on the quest to make it to the city last. They are both on their horses, moving extremely slowly, and they both get off to go to sleep. When they wake up, they get on a horse and start racing toward the city as fast as they can. Why would they do this?

These are easier.

Riddle 5:What flies when it is born, lies when it is alive, and runs when it dies?

Riddle 6: I can be told, played, cracked, and made. What am I?

Riddle 4: They jump on each other's horses.

Riddle 6: A joke? You can tell a joke, play a joke on someone and crack a joke. Not sure if you can make a joke though.

Riddle 5: Hmmm... I'll have to think about that.

Riddle 1:

The one who made me doesn't want me. The one who bought me never uses me. The one who needs me uses me without knowing it.

What am I?

Riddle 2:

I'm the part of the bird that's not in the sky. I can swim in the ocean and yet remain dry.

What am I?

A coffin.

It's shadow.

Damn. I thought those would take longer to figure out! Well done!

Riddle 1:

The one who made me doesn't want me. The one who bought me never uses me. The one who needs me uses me without knowing it.

What am I?

Riddle 2:

I'm the part of the bird that's not in the sky. I can swim in the ocean and yet remain dry.

What am I?

Riddle 1:

You are lost in a forest, and you come across two paths, guarded by two people. If you take the wrong path, you die, but if you take the right path, you escape from the forest into paradise. As for the guards, one of them tells nothing but lies, while the other always tells the truth. You can ask one guard one question in order to get out. What question can you ask that guarentees you will get out of the forest, regardless of which guard you ask?

lol you ask one of the guards what the other guards answer would be . the one who always tells the truth would tell you that the liar would say the wrong path. the liar would think of the path the turthful one would say an then lie an give you the wrong path. so you take the other path to whatever answer you get :devil:

OR you could ask, "Which path would you tell me if I asked you which is the path to paradise?"

The guard who tells the truth would tell you the correct path, and the guard who always lies would also tell you the correct path because he'd lie about what he would tell you, which would also be a lie. A double negative makes a positive!