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UK "sikhs" can be a different kind of ignorant. The level of colonialism in your way of thinking is astonishing but not a surprise being that you live in the land of sikhi's infiltraters and opressors. But I digress, you guys are nothing more than evangelical Christians with turbans on. You know nothing of the Hindustan that sikhi was founded in. Only the post British India they you are used. But I'll leave u with this. The Oneness is everything and everyone. To express this level of hate and mockery towards people is to express hate and mockery to yourself and the divine. Wake up from your slumber. You have not seen God yet. Your life leaving you very quickly. You dont have much time left. Free yourself from the prison you've built yourself. I wish i was optimistic but Im not. I already know what you will say. I just have one request. Please Slander me. Please slander my love for the guru. Please slander my experience of life. Please slander me. with love, a Fellow Gay Sikh Finally two people who have some sense and share my views,bruh i agree with both of ya'll.at the same time we have other sikhs here saying u are sikh and then not accepting hukam what kind if a sikhi is that,being LGBT is hukam you can say all u want but it is hukam people are born that way,understand it accept it it is bhana,and ik my message is gonna fall on blind ears and i gonna be "disproved" in some crazy irrational way but atleast i did my part,and both of the ppl whose posts i have quoted ( i.e. posts from @hellothere and @BlessedToBeGay),i frigging agree with u 100% i wrote my reply separtely bcos the original topic was i a plae where guests cant reply,so idk,also tell me if Akaal Purakh is in every molecule of existence are us lgbt folk not part of this universe and also you listen to bhai jagraj singh ji and even to the parts where he is with the lgbtq+ community,y'all dont listen to him there do u and for those of you who didnt know daas guest singh is LGBT,he is . BAM!
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh I am a young college student from California. I can read Gurmukhi fairly well, but I have a hard time understanding what the Gurbani means. Because of this, I use English translations when reading Gurbani. My question is regarding the use of gendered pronouns such as “He”, Him”, “His” etc. From what little wisdom Waheguru has gifted me with, I understand that in Gurmukhi, the One is always referred to as “You” rather than the masculine “He”. Is this correct? If so, why do most translations use masculine pronouns? I always get annoyed by this, as I see it everywhere, in Gurdwaras on projectors, in Gurbani apps. I consider myself a feminist, so this has really had an impact when I read Gurbani. Is the heavy use of masculine pronouns a result of Abrahamic influences on translators of Gurbani? For example, in Abrahamic faiths, the One is almost always regarded as the Father in Heaven. Thus, they use “He”. In Sikhi, however, the One is referred to in many ways, including Mother and Father. In fact, feminism is bred into Sikhi. Do translators of Gurbani use “He” because of the Husband-Lord analogy, which is just one of the many analogies used in Gurbani? It is also very important to note that the analogies and metaphors used by Guru Ji reflect the prevailing attitudes of the times, where women were considered much lower to men. Guru Ji used analogies in a way that not only resonated with the masses, but also exposed the darkest issues of the times. In no way was Guru Ji supporting male domination over women. In fact, Guru Ji placed women as second to the One. Guru Ji considered women as the essence of Divine Love. So then, when analyzing English translations of Gurbani, why is it always “He”? Can we not use “She”, “Her”, and “Hers” to refer to the Universal One? Can we not refer to the One as “Queen”, in addition to “King” (Maharaj)? This has always bothered me, as I cannot understand Gurbani from Gurmukhi alone, and because I feel very deeply for our fellow sisters in the Panth, who have yet to be fully recognized as true equals in our world. I feel very awkward whenever I say something like “Always remember and love Waheguru! She’s in your heart. She’s always with you. You are her and she is you!”. I always get confused looks from others, as if I’ve done something wrong. It breaks my heart to see our society like this. What should translators do, so that we can have the true meaning of Gurbani in other languages? What can we do as Sikhs to further uplift women? I apologize for any mistakes I may have made. I am just trying to share my thoughts and seek a better understanding. Much Love. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh
so .....heres the deal ,i took a hukam from mahraj.Here it is: DnwsrI mhlw 1 ] Dhanaasaree, First Mehl: shij imlY imilAw prvwxu ] That union with the Lord is acceptable, which is united in intuitive poise. nw iqsu mrxu n Awvxu jwxu ] Thereafter, one does not die, and does not come and go in reincarnation. Twkur mih dwsu dws mih soie ] The Lord's slave is in the Lord, and the Lord is in His slave. jh dyKw qh Avru n koie ]1] Wherever I look, I see none other than the Lord. ||1|| gurmuiK Bgiq shj Gru pweIAY ] The Gurmukhs worship the Lord, and find His celestial home. ibnu gur Byty mir AweIAY jweIAY ]1] rhwau ] Without meeting the Guru, they die, and come and go in reincarnation. ||1||Pause|| so guru krau ij swcu idRVwvY ] So make Him your Guru, who implants the Truth within you, AkQu kQwvY sbid imlwvY ] who leads you to speak the Unspoken Speech, and who merges you in the Word of the Shabad. hir ky log Avr nhI kwrw ] God's people have no other work to do; swcau Twkuru swcu ipAwrw ]2] they love the True Lord and Master, and they love the Truth. ||2|| qn mih mnUAw mn mih swcw ] The mind is in the body, and the True Lord is in the mind. so swcw imil swcy rwcw ] Merging into the True Lord, one is absorbed into Truth. syvku pRB kY lwgY pwie ] God's servant bows at His feet. siqguru pUrw imlY imlwie ]3] Meeting the True Guru, one meets with the Lord. ||3|| Awip idKwvY Awpy dyKY ] He Himself watches over us, and He Himself makes us see. hiT n pqIjY nw bhu ByKY ] He is not pleased by stubborn-mindedness, nor by various religious robes. GiV Bwfy ijin AMimRqu pwieAw ] He fashioned the body-vessels, and infused the Ambrosial Nectar into them; pRym Bgiq pRiB mnu pqIAwieAw ]4] God's Mind is pleased only by loving devotional worship. ||4|| piV piV BUlih cotw Kwih ] Reading and studying, one becomes confused, and suffers punishment. bhuqu isAwxp Awvih jwih ] By great cleverness, one is consigned to coming and going in reincarnation. nwmu jpY Bau Bojnu Kwie ] One who chants the Naam, the Name of the Lord, and eats the food of the Fear of God gurmuiK syvk rhy smwie ]5] becomes Gurmukh, the Lord's servant, and remains absorbed in the Lord. ||5|| pUij islw qIrQ bn vwsw ] He worships stones, dwells at sacred shrines of pilgrimage and in the jungles, Brmq folq Bey audwsw ] wanders, roams around and becomes a renunciate. min mYlY sUcw ikau hoie ] But his mind is still filthy - how can he become pure? swic imlY pwvY piq soie ]6] One who meets the True Lord obtains honor. ||6|| Awcwrw vIcwru srIir ] One who embodies good conduct and contemplative meditation, Awid jugwid shij mnu DIir ] his mind abides in intuitive poise and contentment, since the beginning of time, and throughout the ages. pl pMkj mih koit auDwry ] In the twinkling of an eye, he saves millions. kir ikrpw guru myil ipAwry ]7] Have mercy on me, O my Beloved, and let me meet the Guru. ||7|| iksu AwgY pRB quDu swlwhI ] Unto whom, O God, should I praise You? quDu ibnu dUjw mY ko nwhI ] Without You, there is no other at all. ijau quDu BwvY iqau rwKu rjwie ] As it pleases You, keep me under Your Will. nwnk shij Bwie gux gwie ]8]2] Nanak, with intuitive poise and natural love, sings Your Glorious Praises. ||8||2| So i just wanted help in deciphering the meaning of the vaakh and help in undersatnding what maharaj wants to convey to me /tell me.....i mean i do kinda understand it (not fully tho) so i just need a conformation as to whether what i hv in mind is right . Also another thing is that i've been doing vichaar on some of the things mentioned in the hukam also hv been watching some Basics of Sikhi street parchar video which have the same vichaars in them ( about the oneness and other stuff also mentioned in the hukam and also going around in my brain,in Basics of Sikhi vids and also in my vichaars,so.....? ?) a little help plzz
WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH!!! This is a very serious please VERY VERY SERIOUS I am dying. This fake me that I thought was me this whole time is dying. This ego or fake self. Through Satguru Ji (Waheguru Ji) Maharajs teachings/blessings I have come to realize that I do not exist. But I this fake me my ego is trying to run. I (This fake me) have been slowly not being able to do my Nitnem my mind is trying to latch on to Vikaars beacause it doesnt want to die and or cotemplate Naam (The real me) BUT it I (my ego) knows at the same time it has nowere to run. I KNOW EVERYTHING is Waheguru Ji himself. What i see, hear, touch, think is all Him, my Beloved, so I KNOW i have nowere to run or hide. I this ego knows this and it is still trying to run away (its trying to grasp something that it doesnt think is Waheguru Ji) its trying to stay alive by doing "bad" things. More it realizes that this vikaar is too apart of this game the more I (Waheguru Ji) realizes that this is just Me (Waheguru Ji) testing myself then I (my ego) it runs to something else another vikaar that can make "me" (this ego) feel alive. I know it is a matter of time before I die i know this 100%. I know that ill fully realize My self (Waheguru Ji) one day but Im going crazy but i cant say that at the same time cause i KNOW its kirpa. What do i do? But idk at the same time idk why i came here. idk i need help idk what i need to do??? How do i submit? Or do i just let myself run until i cany run no more? Accept the hukam ? Or maybe this is part of the Game for this character ? This is its story ? Waheguru i just need something Im sorry i cant explain i just need your help Satguru Ji Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh