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  1. Should sikhs celebrate divaali (rechirstened as bandi chor divas)when there is no historical proof of Guru Hargobind jee acutally coming home on a day that coincides with hindu Diwaali ? Share your views - in my view if we have a good naam simran practise then everyday is diwali
  2. panthicunity

    Futility Of Lights On Divaali

    Today you will see the following vaar by Bhai Gurdas jee being sung in gurdwaras - dIvwlI dI rwiq dIvy bwlIAin] Lamps are lighted in the night of divali festival. qwry jwiq snwiq AMbir BwlIAin] Stars of different variety appear in the sky. PulW dI bwgwiq cuix cuix cwlIAin] In the gardens the flowers are there which are selectively plucked. qIriQ jwqI jwiq nYx inhwlIAin] The pilgrims going to pilgrimage centres are also seen. hir cMdaurI Jwiq vswie aucwlIAin] The imaginary habitats have been seen coming into being and vanishing. gurmuiK suK Pl dwiq sbid smHwlIAin ]6] All these are momentary, but the Gurmukhs with the help of the Word nourish the gift of the pleasure fruit.(6) The last line says it all ... Bhai sahib is asserting futility of these rituals - whereas our raagis sing as though Guru Sahib (most people dont know its bhai Guradaas to begin with) is encouraging sikhs to light deevas on Deevali...... Jahan Gyan Tahan Dharam Hai | Jahann Jhooth Tahan Paap || Also we call it Bandi Chor divas , which is also a myth but thats whole another topic.
  3. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh! We protest against bipran ki reet when we criticise Sikhs who celebrate karva chauth, rakhree/raksha bandan etc because Guru Gobind Singh ji Maharaaj says 'Jab Lag Khalsa Rahe Niara, Tab Lag Tej Dioon Mein Sara. Jab Eh Gaye Birpran Ki Reet, Mein Na Karoon In Ki Parteet.' Under article 25 of the Indian constitution, Hindus include Sikhs, Buddhists and Jains. Are you celebrating Deepavali (divali) today? Do you prefer the blessings of goddess Lakshmi over Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaaj's Parteet.. Yeah yeah you didn't mean divali when you said happy divali, you meant happy bandi cchor divas. Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaaj was the first Guru to secure release of prisoners from Babar's prison. How come we don't celebrate that day? If we want to break free from the shackles of article 25 of the Indian constitution and the constitution in general, we must start by celebrating Bandi Cchor Divas on another day in line with Gurmat? After all we have different dates for Gurpurabs depending on which calendar we follow. SGPC could declare another date to pray for the release of all prisoners still languishing in jails around the world. I realise ive jumped from one point to another and I appologise if ive offended anyone. I'm not saying don't celebrate Bandi Cchor Divas, just saying we need to know what we're celebrating and when. How does Bandi Cchor Divas coincide with Divali? Guru Hargobind Ji Maharaaj was released on Divali day and made it to Amritsar on the same Divali day from Gwalior, south of Agra which today would take one 8hours in a train, in those days 5days atleast on horseback? thats assuming Maharaaj did not stop on way to meet Sangatah who would of course have been greeting and congratulating. So how exactly does Divali and Bandi Cchor Divas coincide? Is this an accurate depiction of Sikh history and an accurate interpretation of Sikh sentiment? Or are some Sikhs so eager to celebrate Divali, and so fervent to want to link Divali to Sikh practice and tradition that they simply had to find or create an incident that is suggested to have happened on or close to Divali day, and use that as a pretext to celebrate? and why do we not celebrate the Bandi Cchor Divas of Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaaj from Babars prison along with the innocent prisoners mostly women and children?! or does that not matter since there was no divali or raksha bandan or karva chauth then?! Why aren’t Sikhs extolled to celebrate Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaaj’s Bandi Cchor Divas? Why is there no Deep Maala to commemorate this day? Because it does not coincide with Divali? Or it did not happen close enough to Divali day? Or there was no Harmandar Sahib to be lit up with lamps then? Or simply because this Bandi Cchor provides no pretext for celebrating Divali? We light candles and deevay and fireworks polluting our atmosphere...WHY? is a celebration not complete without them? if this is not Bipran Ki Reet, i dont know what is. I appologise again if ive offended anyone. and if im wrong in what i say, I guess Maharaaj will be the judge of that. but my intention is not to offend anyone. Pul Chuk Muaf Ji. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!
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