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Guru Fateh I think My friend live in a some other world, I agreed what you have purpose. I think you dont understand the problem at present. Let me tell you whats happening locally in Southall. mr President Sohi sold alcohal and tabacco in his hounslow shop for ten years. His brother and all relatives in the same business. Not all but Most of the even Amridhari singhs have off licence shops there wifes running them.

BLUE PRINT TO CREATE INDEPENDENT SIKH NATION I have started this writing based on no assumption. Before I can convince even myself that we Sikhs need independent nation , I need some answers of my own questions. I have try to get the answers on my own by searching the information from the internet. WHAT IS INDEPENDENT SIKH NATION? As a simple common Sikh man, I understand that the independent Sikh nation is primarily meant to be nation where majority of the Sikhs resides and can progress on social, economical & religious emotions in good democratic manner based on sikh panth philosophy. Also Punjabi Hindus & Muslims in malerkotla can live peacefully in this nation. DID THE PRESENT SECULAR STATE OF INDIA STOP SIKHS TO PROGRESS On SOCIAL , ECNOMIC , RELIGIOUS & EMOTIOBAL FRONT? As a naïve sikh man, I initially thought in general, it seems no body stops us from making progress on economic front. Also religion wise, no body stop us to make gurduwara and worship wahaguru However I did make search to understand how far our Punjab have make progress after independence in 1947 by being part of nation INDIA? I will try to put following points to point out, we would have been better of with independent land locked k h a l I s t a n. 1> Despite giving so much to India in terms of foodgrains. Pricing of the grains are not in our control. No canal system is in proper place for the land cultivation. Most of the water taken is from ground water that is going down very fast now & is toxic in nature!. It may not remain more than 10-15 years. An economic problem will even start on greater foot on our land & people. Govt of India never allow our Punjab farmer to sell crops at highest value. No concrete infrastructure is in place to help farmers. Most of the time it Hindu middlemans whose mercy are our sikh farmer brother. 2> Neighboring states of Punjab are allowed to get most of the water, without Punjab’s getting any money for sending the same. As a independent nation we can sell this water. History shows all water rich countries make lot of economic benefit from this( ex Argentina) 3> For long run, for any region to sustain and grow faster in fast changing world. Education is key. It is the service industry that makes countries rich. Example, Japan, Israel & most of the western world. As a nation , rather than put money on education and relevant industrial support. Just because our area is near to Pakistan. No major MNC come to Punjab to set up high technology industry. Had we have independent nation. This would not be case. Make normal relationship among neighborhood with respect. Any company want to take advantage of retailing in K h a l I s t a n can be forced to setup R&D centers. But we cannot force this opening of R & D center in Punjab as most of the industry then tends to go close to Delhi and further south.. With 13 MP , Punjab is hardly in position to make such negotiations. 4> So what our youths do now since no concrete service , manufacture industry . Well going for drugs. Why, that’s what congress & other corrupt political parties give them to take votes. Come elections ( local,state,national). It is drugs ,liquor etc in free flow. K h a l I s t a n will never allow drugs to use. Many countries make point to have death sentence for such usage. ( south east Asian forward things countries Taiwan , Malaysia Thailand etc).Guess what. They have successfully control the potent death habit among their youths. But our secular India will never allow such rule to place in Punjab. So merry goes on. In fact congress presudu Hindus would like our race to die down. Afterall that’s what national leader hindu leader Mr Balram Jahaar says ' To preserve the unity of India, if we have to eradicate 2-kror [ 20 millions ] Sikhs, we will do so. (Balram Jhakhar, a colleague of P.V. Narsimharao, the former Indian Prime Minister, now Governer of Madhya Pardesh) 5> recently all univerties in Punjab request for fund allocation. What UGC is doing . Not giving enough funds to punjab’s univerties despite Punjab contributing too much in center tax revenue and food grain contribution. Check such news in local Tribune newspapers >>Double fund allocation, varsities tell Punjab So in brief , a water rich fertile land nation with good business skill can easily self sufficient economically. Any gas pipelines royalties are extra money. Money spend on education to make service oriented industry is what will make k h a l I s t a n a truly developed nation. With 10% Sikhs (20lakh) living abroad in already developed world. Business contacts in moving forward along develop world is not a issue. We are indeed better off as landlocked small country than being part of India. ( I welcome people to prove me wrong on my points above listed on economic , social front) HOW TO GAIN INDEPENDCE FOR SIKH NATION The trillion dollar question is as how to get independence. Lets study new countries that have gain independence in last 2 decades. Why only last 2 decades. Because world keep changing fast. And we should learn how a nation creation is possible in current global political setup. BIG NATIONs BREAKUP (PASSIVE POLICY) Since 1990, 32 new countries are created. Majority of them are created by break down of USSR & Yugoslavia. Certainly, the way these countries gain independence is not by individual effort. But because of the collective failure of big nations as whole. For us to follow this model means. We have to wait the day India breaks down , 1> May be because of hindu-muslim tensions., 2> May be because of social disorder (naxtilltes), reservation problems(gujjers). 3> Or may be because of north –south divide in economic disparity. The FIRST reason does not seems will work Reason. Muslims who do not want to live in India have already moved out & whatever remain need not have strong race strength. Also they are not in majority except in Kashmir valley. Just a pocket of Hyderabad and UP ( meerut etc) are no real danger for breaking India. Kashmir seems to have tame with no much external support coming. Also Muslims got bad name world over. The SECOND reason of naxlites also may not be good reason to believe. Since these people do not have international recognition. Beside they are against the idea of capitalism . Basically a communist people. The south America in recent times have nations who get what we say left people win via democratic means. They come close to what I am trying to saying. But again with little international support & no clear defined boundaries, The disturbance by such people will do just social riots. In our context of creating k h a l I s t a n, this still may not come handy,(Except Indian security forces resources are being used to handle/contain them) The THIRD thought of north-south divide should be the most promising of the three options. As of now, all south states(AP, Karnatka,Tamil naidu) All are doing great in economic power. While Bihar,UP Madhya Pardesh ) are doing very poor. The only north region which is giving any fighting chance is DELHI AREA against the south. So in long run of 15-20 years if this trend continue , the Southern states will be more assertive of their independent authority. The most promising one is the Tamil Nadiu with anti hindi Dravidian parties like DMK MDMK etc. Their assertive ness also defined by LTTE success in srilanka. Until a Tamil state is not created in sri lanka,. Their own self confidence may be low about getting Tamil ELEAM in India as of now. Note: Just a note to sangat, You can see who strong is LTTE with own aircrafts and committed squads of naval & army, Still they are not able to gain independence despite having northern controlled areas. REASON. NO major world power is ready to recognize it, including India & permanent members of the security council. So it is very important that we gain acceptance from security council a moral support of our cause. Thus, Not only recognition from the world over will come but also the peacekeeping forces come handy from UN to start the national building process when our dream come true. So in brief the above discussed approach talked about, following a Wait & Watch policy. I am not sure how many people would like this approach. But this is certainly one of the passive possibilities. Lets discuss other model of way nations gain independence by active struggle in recent times SMALLER PART GETTING INDEPENCE FROM BIGGER PART(PROACTIVE POLICY) : Of all the recent nations gaining independence from bigger or majority . East Timor gains independence from Indonesia is the most prompt that I could search. In east Timor case , UN from the beginning never recognize the Indonesia brutal occupation on east Timor area. Thus when the time come of plebiscite( that a weak premier of Indonesia agree). Timor people votes for independence. Taking same argument in our case. A non-official plebiscite of giving hardliner ( simarjeet singh mann) a power in Punjab elections will give sufficient indication to UN that people of Punjab do want independence. A UN understanding is must. Luckily India is not permanent member if security council. That’s still gives us possibility to break easily under this model of proactive. The example new nation( East Tirmor) however did pay price of independent with Indonesia try destroy its infrastructure So a word of caution to sikh brothers. We may have to pay a similar price if not play our cards carefully. BUT, a proactive policy come with revolution. As we have seen in recent events in Punjab. People are not ready for revolution. There is no point in blaming in badal govt. Badal govt have people support. It is only last 10 years before they have seen the bad days of terresim/ or sikh fight as our brothers will like to call. That moment got direction less with no strong leadership. And also Ak-47 or swords are good for nothing against Indian army. So what to do. Give up arms and cry like baby with no clear cut solution in sight? No brothers, there is always is solution of every problem. It is question of how we will understand and act upon it. One should understand the psychology of people in general. Every one in this world fear from revolution. Since revolution brings changes and people in general do not like changes in their ambient area. When in recent French elections the present president talk about cuts in subsidy & do more work. Many or majority of people who vote against him was because of his fear rather that any positive in opposite candidate. But French continuous decline in economic make many people forced to make this revolution vote. Otherwise it was declining for many years. In our case Should people revolution will come when our water levels in Punjab goes fast down? I hope it comes earlier lest it is too late. With no proper channels in place. Letting all water flow to neighboring hindu dominated haryana /rajistan. Our Punjab will be soon dry land in next 15 years if similar situation remains. NO That will be too late. SO what to do. We need to start evolution approach to gain independence rather than a straight revolution approach. Offcource independence will only come with revolution. But to get into stage of revolution we need to do our homework proper by means of evolution. WHAT IS THE MEANING of EVOLUTION ? WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE IT WORK I will try best to answer this question with example in technology area Take example of Finance package system in banks Anyone in IT industry knows many components make a package as usable package. If one day we decide oh common all system is crap. It is not delivering what we want. Make change in design and code all together. What will happen. It will fail. People dealing with package will cry & System as a whole will fail. Same thing happen with revolution approach done for independence in early 80s . Sant Bhandrwalji did initiate and make point across Sikh community that their is need to have independent state for Sikhs. No body dispute that since under present system , sikh was loosing their social, economic and financial fronts. When the flash point come in 1984 to make decisions. Their was no clear game plan. The moment army attack golden temple. Sikh peasants simply make emotional run towards amritsar. Result, army simply shoot our unarmed sikh brothers just like killing sitting ducks. The hindu soldiers enjoy this killing. So what should be we do, just get angry . NO ,anger makes no result. We should learn the lessens. An un arm crowd is good for nothing. 1> EVOLUTION POINT 1:: So make a point in general , our sikh peasants should get armed with govt license guns , un authorized guns, But kept it under arm. No need to use/show them . Keep for your own safely from in general DERA people , thief’s etc. Whatever reasons, make point to have arms for be ready when time to get ready to defend your self. Was their any proper direction by our leaders. They simply sit in golden temple with no plan as how to direct. What were our ex-service man doing in Punjab. After all they are heros in their time. We should get their experience by maintain a hide army. Be peasant in day to day life. But as when revolution comes. 2> EVOLUTION POINT 2 , Ex-serviceman!! Be ready to command village army. DO this practice now only. Time may come in 5 year or 10 year time. We have to be patience. And wait for right time. All the Sikhs living out side Punjab in india. They should make point to have contact in Punjab. Either by having second home purchase, or business link setup . Or job of one of your family member in Punjab. It is important to make run to wards Punjab when situation demands. What happen when 1984 riots occur. Many Sikhs run and just become refugee in Punjab. It did not help you to be in such situation of refugee. 3> EVOLUTION POINT 3: “All Sikhs living out Punjab in India” Be owner of small/big plot, house in Punjab. That will help you lot in long run when the actual time comes. Anycase, having a property investment is never wrong decision. Sikh peasant under which we gain strength, should make point to put pressure on akali political leader to make strong case for more canal systems in punjab. Ground water should be last AND not first option when looking for water in fields, drinking and other usage. So much water is flowing to neighboring state. WATER is still state subject. CENTER cannot force us to send our water outside. So we can legally fight our case to stop sending water outside. There is concept of river based basin based distribution across region. This is smart hindu moves result in too much water going out of Punjab. A strong legal team & brains are required to start reducing our outflow of water. A positive move is also required in our community to help restore ground water level. Try restore the present forest land with trees . How small they be. Also ground water level restore systems can be installed using govt subsidy approach. 4> EVOLUTION POINT 4: Sikh farmers : start putting pressure to have canal systems in Punjab . Reduce using ground water. 5> EVOLUTION POINT 5:: Now This evolution point goes to every Sikh, no matter whatever profession he/.she is in. DEMAND our separate sikh civil code. For marriages & property distribution. This very important to let international community know that we are different from hindus. K H A L I S T A N can never be reality if you do not have separate identity. With time our future generations will get again diluted with UP/BHIAR hindus in future. We need to be separate now. Let civil code be one of way to do so. By the way did we get 7 phears to get married ?? NO we get 4 phears & that too in front of our 11th guruji. 6> EVOLUTION POINT 6: The casteism in Sikhism is regrettable. Especially when our guruji teaches us to treat all equally. But I am not here to give lecture on what we should do to erode it, That we can discuss someday later. It is important that in Punjab, Our sikh brothers who are low on economic /social scale. They should get reservation status much more than low level hindus. Simple!! we want our Sikhs to succeed and let we have some difference from our hindu brothers. Every state in India make reservation as per its local interest. We should use this tool to our advantage. Also this will help us to get away from DERA attacks on our panth. Let hindu muslim be parts of any DERAs we don’t care. Also it is not our problem. SO make political demand of more reservations for Sikhs with excluding Hindus. Anyway Sikhs got nothing outside Punjab. . 7> EVOLUTION POINT 7: The Sikhs living outside India can play a very important role in making the sikh independent state a reality. I can see in news various organization are playing a very active role by putting point across UNO, EU & other organization. (A win of Hillary Clinton as president of USA will be good for Sikhs with Clintons close friendship with Chatwals. ) I am sure people abroad are very active. The same momentum keeps going is all required. !! 8> EVOLUTION POINT 8: Make a point hardcore of our Sikhs brother be part of Sikh regiment . They are to play major role when revolution comes Well so far my evolution point are up to common people level. Now how my point will reach to masses. 9> EVOLUTION : All computer nerds that are reading this article , ( Sikhs I mean) make point to spread this word across our brothers to do what is needful as per their situation as defined in the list above. Also SIKH media is must to have our words spread across . Stations like Akash radio should try put more reach by moving towards air wave on Punjab soil. If people propagate the above points on evolution. The Sikh Nation will be reality. The list for revolution point is not complete. There are many things that can be done while living under law & keep pushing before making final push. Just making Badal govt to demand water & more reservation to economic less Sikhs in Punjab will ensure our slow & right movement towards goal. BOTH WATER & RESERVATOIN are state power subjects. HOW LONG WE SHOULD NEED EVOLUTION before moving to REVOLUTION? This depends upon how soon we are successful in getting our evolution point across. Time keep passing. The HARDLINE in Akalis should able to gain power in next general election ie in 4 year time. If that become possible. The revolution stage can come early. WHAT REVOLUTOIN ARE YOU tALKING? IF AGREE ON YOUR BELIEVES. DID you SINCERELY THINK SIKHS can beat Indian army & police? It will be better if India break from within. That will make efforts of our Sikhs brother easy. But good military general exprince leading a break away sikh regiment army can help us in fighting. Make point to use non-conventoinal warefare. Ie B I l o g I c a l weapens. Put such weapens spread on all roads leading to Punjab. NOTE: Use such weapens only against fighting force. NOT against population. Otherwise the WOLRD will turn agaist us. Since such weapons are not allowed to use. I am not talking about n e a l u er weapon. First such weapon is out of our reach. Second using such weapon can back fire. What will small state like Punjab do if our enemy use the similar weapon. So the path is long and hard. But with international support with evolution approach we can move on to revolution stage. In the end. Any movement sustain only with strong leadership. This time, we have no strong leader to rally around. Badal is old man. His son too rich to think on such lines. Person like Daljit singh Bittu are good. If such person rise above in Punjab politics then our subsequent revolution can be easy

Hi Yes I went to the Gurdwara today , Floor is in realy bad condition. I just start talking to some old baba ji there, He told me no Sewadar or giani can open there mouth here. If they do Sohi Have more then 10 member of his family in the committe and paid gangster in the gurdwara those only here to keep eye on every single sangat coming to gurdwara what they do and discuss. He also told me when gurdwara was built sohi relatives lady takes £25k monthly as project manager, What she managed if the gurdwara is in this condition today. There is no one who can ask them any question to them all afraid from them. Because police is always help the sohi party. Because Mr Johal and his son give alcohal to police on every festival. You can even watch police inspectors even borough comander Mr Bridgher to there shop taking boxes of alcohal. Anyway I think I should share my feeling with you as a sangat, Just one more think we are good for nothing. Just chat go to gurdwara pay respect see everything and do nothing. I am not blaming anyone its including me . Guru Fateh

Check This: http://www.***anti-sikh website not allowed***/fullpage.as...=26&pview=9 Dear friends we only spend £18million few years ago: Look whats happening. Someone also told me near the stairs all marble is cracking they put carpet to cover that. I will go tomarow there to check it. Guru Fateh

Guru Fateh Dr Rai is getting Hotter Day by Day . All youngsters all backround sikh muslim white black start supporting him. Tony Litt is doing ok but labour have no chance in ealing this time which is good. Labour done nothing to protect sikhs since attacked in new york and london. Our gurdrawara recently so many top leader came to support there candidate, But vever put any pressure to them and home office to educate the british public about sikhs. We have protected this country so many times taking bullets to our chests but they always ignore us. My request is this dont vote to party unless they give us something real this is the time to ask anything you want from them otherwise support the independant. If all sikhs Vote to Dr rai we can win, Always only 45% of the population Vote sikh votes are very heavy dont sit home and wait for the result. Put efford and make this work. Regrads Dasan das

Southall gettign hote Day by day . Tony Litt and Dr Jasdev Singh Rai Have very good chances to win.

Five cllr left labour party to join tory and tony party, I think they done the right move. Thats the only way they can teach them a lesson.

GURU FATEH. THERE WAS THREE SIKH CANDIDATE STAND AFTER DISCRIMINATION AGAINSED SIKH CANDIDATE IN LABOUR PARTY, BUT THEN TWO HAVE DECIDED NOT TO STAND AGAINSED EACH OTHER THEY DECIDED MR JASDEV SINGH RAI FAVOUR TO STAND AS INDEPENDANT. SO PLEASE VOTE FOR HIM TELL ALL SIKHS LIVE IN UK TO CALL THERE RElatives and friend. THERE IS FEW LINKS TO SEE WHATS HAPPENING AND WHAT KIND OF CANDIDATE LABOUR PUT FORWARD THOSE BELONGS TO RSS IN INDIA AND OUR SINGH SABHA GURDWARA SUPPORTS MR SHARMA WHO EXTRIMIST PARTY RSS KILLS SO MANY MUSLIMS IN GUJRAT SIKHS IN PANJAB AND CHRISTIAN IN INDIA. http://www.ealingtimes.co.uk/mostpopular.v...on_reaction.php

Please sign inline petition and email to everyone . http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Sikh-Regiment/

Hi Evryone have right to express there feeling. Why Sudenly sikh start hatting hindus just 50 years ago we have left our homeland and decided to live with them. If you ask jain people they hate hindus but they never hate sikhs. If you ask Budhist they hate hindus but they never hate sikhs. Read the history hindus burn buddist, Jain, sikh in delhi muslim in gujrat and dalit and christians all over india. Its easy to defand but just emagine your own sister gang raped and father burn alive front of your eyes how do you feel. Rab rakha