kullykhalsa

i find these type of questions are a constant here maybe we should have a sticky

bhaiji the whole reason you are affected by these things is because of your own emotions, or lack of control of them, its one of the hardest things to master (not that i have done it)

only you control the way you feel, you are in charge, if you know the real reason you keep your kesh then it should never affect you

i hope you feel better tho!

LOL at this post

First you call sikhi weak including this forum where YOU are asking for help

have you ever actually helped anyone yourself or are you waiting on these "chola" wearers to help you out first, instead of cussing people down why dont you change yourself and maybe when people see someone doing better and helping people they will be inspired unless the above rant of yours is only so other people change for your benefit!

apologies for making assumptions on your post but you have assumed all love marriages are based on people not loving themselves

as a self proclaimed mona who "used to chase girls" did you come round to sikhi with someone preaching at you and calling you "bescharam" or did you come round because of the pyaar that you saw in sikhi

although i do agree with you the whole bollywood bf/gf thing has gone to far in sikhi but id rather it happened at the gurdwara then in a club the lesser of 2 evils?

^^^^ 100% agree with you above again Genie Paji. The specific enemies you correctly list above are evil enemies we have to destroy by any means necassary. One of the ways to do that is to wipe out there so-called support base by classifying as many people as possible outside of the so-called fold of Hinduism. For example, nobody that is poor is Hindu, those are natural Sikhs even if they might not keep kes. Those that believe in Ishwar, Bhagwan, ThakurJi, Hari etc as God are all Sikh. The whole game our enemies have constructed is of classifying anyone without kes as Hindu so that they can claim to be an 80% majority and thus control 1.25 billion people. The reality is the specific enemies you refer to number no more than 10 million throughout India (not even 1% yet the resources they control are more like 90%). Remember even 80% of Brahmins are actually struggling financially just like most other Indians and just like Mehtab Singh Paji and Bhai Mati Das Ji and Bhai Sati Das Ji to name a few, my sincere belief is that even 80% of Brahmins would naturally be ready to embrace the Truth of Sikhi, particularly if we welcome them initially as Sehajdhari Sikhs. Sikhi makes sense because it's the Truth and dedicated to Sarbat dha Bhalla. It offers justice and equality and freedom to all. The more we grow our numbers by any method (primary of which is pyaar and seva) the more our adversaries will tremble.

sounds a bit paranoid there are lots of bad people in this world not just specific militant hindutva organisations, destroy by any means necessary is a bit over the top people from the 84 riots should get there sajja but we dont need to grow our numbers the gurus never openly asked hindus to convert your actions should show them that sikhi way is amazing but so is hindu way if followed rightly you have no place to "wipe out" a religion absolute horse/<banned word filter activated> that would make us as bad as the mughals of old/political hindutva orgnisations

the only way to find out is to ask yourself do some paath and see what u think, dont be stressed by what other people think or societies rules, be true to yourself whichever way it turns out good luck but only u can know yourself noone can help you here!

dont think of the past or the present just now, never take it as gospel what some person says read bani for yourself and figure out yourself!

good luck

weird question i know but when does a book become ~SGGS?

In the printing process where does it start full to full cover printed of SGGS become SGGS, or where the paper comes from or how the ink is manufactured, or one word of gurbani or a sentence or a ang? we have bani on t shirts etc everything now adays

also reading this site http://srec.gurmat.info/srecpublications/aboutcompilationofsrigurugranthsahib/appendix2/

makes the guru sound like composing adi granth and bring together records and compositions but calls SGGS the book and records which makes it sound like only the fully printed copy(or maybe even handwritten copy) of SGGS is valid

^^^ militant

please dont hijack some people as taking the piss to this bollywood op as a sign that everyone thinks like the above.

dont agree with the bf/gf culture bit if you like a girl for a long time as friends then get married then u r technically bf/gf doesnt seem that bad. also plenty of ppl amritdharis here with love marriages and i would guess the vast members who visit here disagree with you

its people like u who make people think twice about becoming amritdhari because u have to live an immaculate life, probably the same people who didnt allow divorce only suicide as a way out of a bad marriage, you need to realise being amritdhari is a step on the rung of sachkand dude,

show his walk <banned word filter activated> lol

ask him what you want to ask him, be as deep or as shallow as you like at the end of the day its about getting to know each other, dont hide your character pretend to give a "correct" answer or what you think the other person would prefer to hear, be straight up and then when you find someones who likes your character youll get a yes!

not really a place for any of the sangat to help, if your not religous stop pretending to be, if your scared about coming out as gay then no one can help you its inner strength you need brother

Simple as this - tell your family dont hide away! whether the people on this forum think its right or wrong you need to be content within yourself and that means not leading a double life!

some of this stuff is unreal one minute you are such a good gurmukh you have seen shaheed singhs, the next this guys gnna help you get up for amritvela everyday!

to be fair i did 10 min simran the other day and saw the light so we are probably in the same boat!

not only are you demeaning yourself by acting like he is your other half (your incomplete without him? lol) but you then go further to make it sound like the rest of my sisters are like you and are hunting for a man (and obviously your crush is not gnna be on the market long)

sometimes i think sikhsangat shouldnt allow guest posts because atleast if someone knew you in real life they would slap u back into reality

All I can say is-

-It must be true love !!

I know that you never intended for it to happen, but this way you know that your love is true.

I feel that he probably feels the same kind of way for you, but has probably been shrugging the idea.

As a man, I can tell he has respect for you because he doesn't want to converse on text and phone like all those people out there.

He is simply asking you to be 'face to face' so that he knows you are being very honest with yourself and with him.

Of course, you should tell him that you have much more than 'paaji' feelings for him.

I'm certain that his response will be likewise.

How do I know that I'm so sure with what I'm saying ??

Well, I know that when one person develops thee true feeling over time they are ALWAYS about aura and body responses from the other without being direct.

I'm not talking about the simple smile and gaze into your eyes, i'm talking about the aura that is felt around us.

This is ALL part of the God within and around us.

I am also so sure that you can happily view your feelings not as a confusion or problem, but as a blessing from the consciousness around us.

So, when you fix the wedding date, please send me and my family an invite !

BTW. I am very happily married and we both love each other more by the day such that today, we love more than yesterday and tomorrow we shall love more than today.

I have the SAME relationship with the Lord and wish to maintain it that way for eternity.

thats disgusting you called him "paaji" first lol!

I have had a similar discussion with a few people before from a range of religious backgrounds including a doctor.... and I am still unsure, it is normal for your average regular guy to have lustful thoughts, from a Sikhi perspective it is important to have control over your vices such as Kaam but it exists and you need it to a certain extent to procreate right!?

BUT it is equally unhealthy to subdue sexual energy which is something Catholics do and look at what their priests are known to do!?!

In addition, Sikhs especially in some Jathay think of sexual energy as something absolutely disgusting and something that should be shunned at all costs except for procreation... and yet these Jathay who suppress such thoughts are the ones that are hit with the most scandals... Sexual repression never works... and if you ask a young guy to repress their thoughts and not give them a safe outlet... this is not good! Which is a reason why in bible belt areas in America and Amish people get married at 16+ ...

I think British protestant views towards masturbation and all things sexual have influenced the prevalent suppression of anything sexual hence the staunch objection to such matters in the Dasam Granth?!

And so is masturbation as a kaami outlet wrong? Yes. But is shouting in anger as a khroodi outlet wrong? Yes. Is bragging about your new car or job as a hankaari outlet wrong? Yes.... These are vices, we accept them and fight them everyday and reduce their outlet?!

Most health professionals see masturbation as a healthy practice in moderation. It is known to boost immune system, reduce stress and fight depression. It is known to reduce your sexual libido-desire and thus helps to fight kaam in your day to day life! surely thats a good thing?!

Just my thoughts...

Brilliant Post!

That Harjap singh cracks me up man, unlike the rest of you i dont have an opinion on his looks being a guy myself its as sad as watching take me out lol!

As for WLS we should surely listen more to him just so we dont turn out like him!

isnt it weird how possible the same girl you are talking about could be giving you advice on this thread, she could potentially be thinking the same thing of you. If you value your friendship at all tell her straight how you feel in the same way you would to your brother/sister

it is a dark age but we are the only ones who can make it better!

o.p you need to see a psychologist of some sort your obviously having problems please do not be scared to talk to someone every single one of us needs help in our life sometime or other!

i would talk to a qualified person there are a lot of groups set up which probably dont have the required qualifications so please go to your GP who will probably refer you to a psychologist!

Punjabi culture is the bane of a gursikh's existence its all to do with pride/ego and attachment (apparently 2 of the panj chor we seem to celebrate)

seems the OP is suffering from a serious case of kaam with her brothers mothers sisters cousins bhuas brother. why is everything such a bollywood dream now? the OP is way to young to be considering marraige from the sentence structure of her replies and the way she convenietly misses out the posts which tell her to stop being such a child. if she was adult enough she would have responded to this but instead will only respond to replies which condone what is going on

penji (OP) you are the sister of everyone on this forum and although we will still help to tell you that watta satta is cultural b/s, i dont think many approve of what is going on.; if you actually feel adult enough to be married then please show your parents the respect they deserve by talking about this with them!

_{hard situation to be in, on one hand part of me says tell some local singhs at your gurdwara and he will soon learn not to hit his wife (this is old pendhu mentality but it has worked in the past)}

_{another part of me says just divorce him and be rid, kids or not kids, your life and people around you will be much better if you are allowed to be yourself!}

essentially your "gf" decided to dump you, and you cant take it so you've decided it must be black magic ?? :S

"No i am serious here, she can not live a 10 mins away without talking to me"

apparently she can because shes still alive, sounds like a case of sour grapes!

signed

Many of us look at these topics to literally and immaturely, we don't try and understand the superb psychology and stategy of Guru Gobind Singh bani and the writers and parcharaks of the puratan era (18th C).

How did the Khalsa panth keep getting populated and rejuvinated when it was being systematically removed from the face of the Earth by those who were threatened and in Raj?

Parcharaks drew in large numbers from the Hindu fold, by showing respect to the devtai but at the same time, showing their subservience to the Master of both Worlds - Guru Gobind Singh. Hindus are of many folds, if you take the most popular devtai (many of whose sakhiyan are actually very inspiring) and subtely enjoin/unite them under the hand of the tenth master, you open flood gates to a whole world of potential Khalsai.

Our semetic strategy of removing and insulting all non Sikh elements and proclaiming monopoly on God will never work if we want to grow the Panth and spread Sikhi.

The 'factual' element of these sakhiyan is of lesser importance, all that matters is the artth (underlying philosophy) which many of us sadly miss.

We should quit our phobias and make effort to understand more deeply the wisdom of old. You will find in many cases, it does not contradict Gurbani.

Guru Gobind Singj is said to have always carried a copy of Hanuman natak in his kamarkasa. If we bother to read the story of Hanuman, we may actually Be inspired by it and realise what it means to be a shargrid of the highest calibre - his love and devotion to his Guru/Parmatma, Sri Ramchandar was a masterclass in discipleship. We of course have are own traditions to look at and consider even more importantly like the majestic devotion of Bhai Lena to Guru Nanak Dev Ji, but that does not mean we cannot respect and also be inspired by others too.

Knowledge removes the need for low level insults and phobias of all kinds.

There cannot ever be any panthic ekta if all we do is ridicule the diversity of traditional beliefs, ithihas and traditions that exist. We don't have to agree, but at least 'try' and take something positive from them, and respect that other Guru Pyare hold those beliefs dear.

brilliant post, pre-sikh times how would one get to akaal purakh there must have been a way? Life did not start in 1699!

stop trying to stamp across one generic sikhi to everyone and treat everyone like brother and sister and the panth will grow naturally

surely the above is not true that means you could never cheat on your wife/husband as long as it was same sex?

Listen to what your inner voice says.

Try to stay away from make up...very bad for your skin.

About jewellery... if the voice in your head says that you can show off your money by wearing expensive jewellery...or anything indicating 'kaam'... refrain yourself. Be honest to yourself. But if it's only meant to be for accessorising etc. go for it.

Don't make it so hard for yourselves that you might start hating rehat.

Remember, it's only a phase...and after a while you might simply get over it when you've had enough!

Not sure why this post is so popular our guru adorned his dastaar and his horse and the clothes he wore with gold and diamonds, was he showing off or indicating "kaam"

be yourself stop shackling yourself to "rehat" if you stick to rehat but your hearts not in it then its just become ritualistic b/s, everyones rehat is different in life some people think you can do some things and not others find your own way in life!

Everything you have done to date has been with an ulterior motive most of your bhagti it seems has been to experience something to see your faith rewarded but faith/belief does not work like that

as sikhs we are supposed to live in the world your existence does not better the world one bit if you are lucky enough to be able to drop out of education system and work life balance then shouldnt you be helping your brothers and sisters in africa (not sure what you could teach them), shouldnt you be doing seva out in the gurdwara i think a singh who goes to work looks after his family helps out in his community and does some real paath from his heart those words mean a lot more to guru ji because he has had to find time to do them hes been listening to what guru ji says and turning that into action (what have you gleaned in the two years of doing your bhagthi?)

i dont want to criticise you because your my brother but i think a life in solitude like that is wasted and shows little care for your brothers and sisters you are in a blessed position you should recognize that and do something great

if you truly want to do drugs do them, but they will bring you no further along to god. Its an impressive feat of doing bhaghti for 2 years but the very first thing you should have asked is if you truly believed in waheguru if that was the case you wouldnt need any "experience" to convince you!