kullykhalsa

a sikh banda should never lose confidence if you wanna trim because you sh1t yourself every time a girl talks to you i suggest you go the whole hog trimming is a cowards way out!

if only the great shaheeds could see wht thy gave their lives for "mr curly hairs sap my confidence"

i once broke my amrit skateboarding but i got up and fixed it!

amrit is not something that can be broken willynilly

off topic singh stick to the topic there is already a topic regarding the divinity of the guru's, this topic is regarding free will!

Lucky do you the believe that it was waheguru's MASTERPLAN to have the holocaust? or the 1984 riots? im sure waheguru knew it would happen and i believe some stuff is pre-ordained but i do not believe that waheguru made these choices i believe he gives us the power to make choices and he knows every single outcome he knows what will happen if we go right or left or straight,backwards he knows every single outcome on every single path we could possible tread

Firstly if you feel it is better to correct someone grammaticaly i would spell "armature" correctly. Maybe your grasp of the english language is fading

Secondly please respond by using my username not some indian pindu desi version that is a base level of respect

Thirdly an oxymoron is something like dark light, whatever Nidar Singh does in his time is his business i believe you can seperate martial knowledge from sikh knowledge. An example my boss at work is power hungry, bitchy, and pretty viscious but he is incredible at his job i pick and choose the information i want to learn/pick up!

Fourthly your name is shaheed singh khalsa but you float around the issue because you are afraid!

really hard concept to understand we have free will in abundance i can choose to not go to work i can choose to kill, help, slander my fellow brothers/sisters however the outcome of my decision even if i feel it is 50/5 right up to the moment i choose has already been seen by an all knowing all powerful being!

Waheguru knows every choice you make before you make it, he knows every possible path and every possible outcome on that path!

sounds like depression penji please contact a professional to talk about how your feeling

wow shaheed singh if this is the way you treat people im sure you sikhi ideology is a messed up as niddar! the singh above in my opinion posted a genuine opinion but you shot him down with little/no respect and really a rather shockingly unlogical approach

now the one problem we really have as a panth is the fact we cannot disagree and be happy you are NOT someone we have to explain our personal sikhi to instead i would advise you to look after your own jeevan

i understand you disagree with niddar but im suprised considering his classes are mostly aimed at older singh, if you really were as brave as our sikh martyrs then you would face any foe if you seriously considered him a problem, i am thinking about attending his class in blakenhall in wolverhampton this thursday as posted above (1st time) im wiling to meet you outside and stand alongside you if you wish to discuss with the students your problems as posted above by you numerous times? please pm me if this sounds like a compromise ill pm you bk my number?

raas raas singh so good they named him twice

rawalpindi express singh - means quick

RahRah Singh

incorrect a dastaar tied correctly shouldnt really be coming off your head easily

patka i think is fine if your going gym or footy but otherwise should be a dastarr

what a wasteman this Guest is firstly post using a username guru's didnt bring us up to be wimps/coward

secondly post your information so that penji and her brother/brothers can show you what a real sikh is like after a few juthiya im pretty sure youll stop trolling forums trying to judge people

i AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY - at last someone is shedding light here on this particular thread.

the absolute truth of the matter is that these type of sikhs are springing up everywhere are the worst distrorters,representers of SIKHS - the guy should take a shave if he wants to sing gora songs and wants to win these type of competitions.to the lovers of this goon, Where is it in any sikh teachings or Gurbani that we are to behave in such low life ways? Being a kesdhari and doing such acts is the worst type of representation ever for sikhs - There is no need to applaud here at all NONEED.

bit over the top seems we have some over zealous people on this forum who just spring to attack, as you seem to want to be fundamental all the time guru ji told us to treat everyone as brothers/sisters with an open heart mind, not a closed mind spouting hatred, ok if you believe we shouldnt applaud but then we should inform!

not really sure what the point of your post is

if its to highlight the fact that some singhs choose kuriya without facial hair well thats already known, just as the fact the majority of sikh kuriya prefer clean shaven

however your posts come across as personal rants

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Added Khalsa Ji, Waheguru

OMG IVE HAD VISIONS ASWELL....HANG ON SORRY THEY WERE JUST DREAMS

How can you not believe in it then be curious about it control your mind your obv looking for answers but to the wrong questions will this info help you no so go find answers to questions that matter

<banned word filter activated> response above to a genuine question struggling to support family this is your sister think before you type

Please pm if you need someone to go over your accounts penji

you would have to clarify what you mean by inform yourself?

i have read both websites bth opposing views the numerous threads on this forum ive even met Niddar Singh (although not long enough to discuss viewpoints of sikhi). But i feel that still doesnt mean im "well informed" im just highlighting that it doesnt do anyone any good with a bashing thread?

i dont think ive been negative to either side, in fact ive said before i agree with the majority of taran0 posts

Yes i have to agree your consistency on this forum really shows everyone else up. As i have said numerous times i am not a pupil of SV/Nidar neither am i a Taksali/AKj or any other group that forms part of sikhi im just a standard sikh. Although i agree with most of Tarans points i am just trying to stress that rarely is anything ever as black/white as you are trying to make out, from what i know of the situation (very little) both sides have had theats levelled at them and this just seems to be a bashing thread wherby the accused hasnt been able to put his point across. if your going to waste your life trying to stop every "sect" of sikhi or waste time fighting with people who dont believe in raagmala/dasam bani etc you'll never be able to work on your own jeevan!

agree with lucky really we should be stopping and buying them food if you dont trust them with the money!

but for OPs question if we give money how do we know its not going on alcohol etc when we give to the gurdwara are u 100% sure your money is going on something useful maybe is just lining the committees pockets.....see its the INTENTION that counts

Check out alan watts audio - if there was no money

at the end of the day studying isnt for everyone, the wost thing we do as punjabis is compare our kids to each other and the one who became a doctor wins

you should look at experiencing life and seeing what you do like doing, as alan watts says its absolutely stupid to carry on doing something you dont like to carry on living to carry on doing something you dont like!

Is this the same kully khalsa who in a previous post pretended not to be a fan, and independant...... hehehheheheh

the problem is that whenever anyone ever gets close to NIdar he's always the first to run to the police and accusing everyone of being a fanatic.

I have been fed up for a while with Nidars students keeping on about "turn up to the Akhara and say it to his face, our ustads bigger then yours", well last thursday at Guru Tegh Bahadur Gurdwara , Wolverhampton, Nidar turned up with 20 or so of his students barged into the Gurdwara and was trying to force his classes on the Gurdwara, however 2 weeks earlier on receiving a letter from the Gurdwara stating that he can no longer hold his classes there, he would not even speak to the committee when given the chance.

Me and two Singhs went down last Thursday to support the committee because we felt that he would try something, I got a chance to say a few words to "The Last Sikh Warrior" and he wouldn't even look me in the eye, he accused me of "flaring up the passions with my website" to which I replied "your website has been causing offence online for ten years and now you know how it feels" I told him your the gurdev of the Hindu-Sikh Shastarvidiya?, he said yes , i replied well go and teach at a hindu-sikh mandir then if you can find one"

i told him straight to his face, this is a Gurdwara, people send their kids here thinking that Gurmat as is understood by the sangat will be taught here, and if people are being taught and if soemthing completely contradictory is being taught then those parents have a right to know. to which he turned around and started saying i was a trouble causer, i said you have been kicked out of somerset road gurdwara and he claimed that the comittee had been kicked out for drug dealing, i almost laughed i was like where the hell you get that story from, and what about all the drug abuse within your akhara.

I was expecting soemone with wisdom who would properly be able to converse and make his viewpoint in an intelligent manner but he just behaved like a fanatic, hothead with no control over his emotions.

The only bit were we got really scared was when he threatened us with his LAWYER !!! he goes "my lawyers coming, he's a bit late" then this bloke with a long black coat walked it and remained silent for the rest of the process,

We spoek to some of his students, who some tried to intimidate by staring at us for a long period which failed to work, one threw out three insults about the website and I said where is the argument and reasoning that you guys are always going on about. in a way i felt sorry for his students, they were clearly hurt and unaware of why they were being treated in this way, it is Nidars foolish behaviour that is to blame - they tried to explain its just abotu the martial art, but i said then why all the hurtful stuff on your website.

In a way Nidar got himself kicked out when he said he wanted to take the legal route and take the Gurdwara to court, so everyone goes go ahead, could take a while, plus the committee have no obligation to offer the Gurdwara for classes to anyone, and have the right to refuse.

The police turned up because Nidar foolishly threatened the Gurdwara with violence, at a meeting HE had set up himself with the police. saying he had students in Canada, America, Europe and he couldn't control them all and they wanted to smash the place up and get violent.

We talked to the police and explained we are here in peace hence only 3 of us, he is the one who has turned up with 20 students and weapons trying to bully the Gurdwara and acting like a hot head.

the most telling thing was that The Gurdwara had the decency to say that we are not banning anyone from worshipign at the gurdwara, anyone can come and worship but no shastarvidiya classes or controversial discourses allowed. Nidar was claiming his snatan beliefs were being discriminated against and he wasn't being allowed to worship. One of the Gurdwara members reminded him that whenever they turn up for class they never matha tek to Guru Granth Sahib ji in the Darbar anyway, they just walk past and when questioned about it they have said that we matha tek to the shaster so we don't need to matha tek to Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

I was shocked! I mean We matha tek to Shaster too, but we don't forget Guru Granth Sahib ji is our Guru

afterwards the police asked both parties to leave and we did so peacefully and then Nidar was asked to leave from the Gurdwara given full freedom to take his LEGAL action.

so we said it to his face, and what? other Singh when leaving even called him a "TAKRA MOORAKH" to his face, for defying the Gurdwara and showing such disregard for the Gurdwara, what wisdom will he teach his students.

as one of the Gurdwara members was on his way home that night he saw Nidar and all his students at KFC in Wolverhampton

i felt sorry for the "Last Sikh Lawyer" who was standing around that night lookign pretty bewildered and confused as to what he was actually doing there......

Thats correct i am not a fan of either side to be honest both sides come across petty and childish with neither side really willing to talk, from your obvious unbiased comments we can see you are clearly in the right, however im guessing there are 2 sides to every story.

one side niddar it seems to me try and intimidate and threaten with their physical presence the oher side seem to want to prove some sort of intellectual superiority with neither having the courage to sit down and explain this is how we feel, what can we do about this.....rarely in this world is stuff as black and white as you try to make out "hehehehe"

what a joke this thread has become if u feel strongly like shaheed singh khalsa have a word u bibi its not like the guys hiding hes advertises what gurdwara hes at u hero, no doubt youd <banned word filter activated> your pants before you get to the gurdwara

im not a fan myself but whenever i see bandwagon like this forming based on hearsay im always wary. For all those singhs calling the guy a nang you should say it to his face (he very well maybe) but being an internet warrior never served any purpose!

as for the description of the fight in the video its definetly blurry but i would call uptej singh the weaker of the 2 from what i know he has a very good reputation as someone whos very strong!

realy confusing thread one minute OP asks for "gurbani standpoint" the next asks for "sangats views"

although i appreciate its hard to know where your money goes does that stop you buying a tv where the commision goes to the salesman who might spend it on alchohol or to the shop owner who might spend it on cigarettes? all in all i you give with an open heart and you are happy then good really doesnt matter what others think!

i like how the above poster is a guest and anonymous lol, at the end of the day keep reading and absolutely key is to find your own way never let anyone tell you this is right or this is wrong!