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Poster now ready for distribution. Please put up in your locals Gurdwaras & distribute to Sangat
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Feedback from Metropolitan Police Authority
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The MPS are aware that the Al-Mahajiroun have stated their intention to hold their annual rally on Trafalgar Square on Sunday 25th July.
The GLA have written to the group advising that there is already another event taking place (French Street Opera) in Trafalgar Square and it would not be available for use. The Al-Mahajiroun web site indicates that they still intend to hold the rally. If they do so they will be in breach of the bye-laws, an offence which can only be dealt with by the GLA by way of summons. The bye-laws do not give a power to ban the rally or arrest those involved.
The MPS are aware that the proposed rally and some of the content on the Al-Mahajiroun web-site has concerned many, including members of the Sikh and Hindu communities. The material on the web site and emails received by many individuals are being examined by the MPS and
Crown Prosecution Service for possible breaches of law.
I have also been informed that members of both the Sikh and Hindu communities have met with the MPS concerning the proposed rally.
The MPS will continue to monitor the situation, and a policing plan is being developed which will aim to facilitate lawful protest while at the same time preventing disorder and minimising disruption to the area (and mindful of the event already permitted by the GLA in Trafalgar Square on the 25 July.)
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30 minute programme which starts at 4.00 pm. (Wednesday 22 July).
ATTENTION
it's WEDNESDAY 21th JULY TODAY
When is the program being Held?
22th JULY THURSDAY
or 21th JULY WEDNESDAY?
It's today at 4pm. Wednesday 21st Jul....
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Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!
Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!
Meeting for East London Sangat this evening at 7.30pm @ Gurdwara Singh Sabha, High Road, Goodmayes, Ilford in the Gym.
Please attend to discuss all your issues and concerns.
Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!
Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!
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REMEMBER.
We must keep the pressure.
Ken Livingstone mayor@london.co.uk tel: 020 7983 4100
He must release a statement condemning the rally, and a plan of action in collaboration with the Met Police to stop it.
Metropolitan Police Authority membersservices@mpa.gov.uk tel: 020 7202 0184
They must provide reassurance with a constructive plan of action to make sure this illegal rally does not happen.
Commission for Racial Equality info@cre.gov.uk tel: 020 7939 0000
They must condemn the press statement and provide support to the Sikh Organisations involved in stopping this rally.
Your Local MP
Please email, ring, and arrange a meeting with your local MP to raise this issue in the House of Commons. They all have websites with contact details email & phone numbers.
Khalsa ji we must stop this public humiliation of our Religion and Human Rights. We have less than 1 week!
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This is so dum!! Are they trying to create a complete new sect??
They are claiming ownership of GurSikhs like Bhai Lalo and Baba Nand Singh..... And why still link yourself to Vishwakarama (Hindu diety for Carpenters).... Futher still why associate with Namdharis.....
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As responsible members of the Sikh religion we must not have any communication with the BNP.
I urge you not to go down that route. It will just strenghthen their position.
We do not need or want their help!!!.
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Please do not start a new discussion thread, there are currently two.
One has the bulk of discussion
The other is focused on contacting authorities & media outlets
Please join these threads.
GurFateh
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Also
The major Sikh Organisations involved are well connected and will be working with other Religious Groups to stop this from happening.
I am just siting a home on my computer sending out emails, it is these Organisations, previously stated, who will get the job done in an organised and formal manner.
GurFateh
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Smart Singh
Others currently involved are the Hindu Council UK. They are currently pressuring the Mayor as well and are contacting CRE and Met Police.
I have contacted te Jewish Chronicle, waiting for feedback, I hope they can help.
But it is obvious to whom the press release is targerted towards.
Out of the Christian Organisations I would guess The Church of Enland would be a start.
Please if you feel that other groups should be contacted please proceed.
GurFateh
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Khalsa ji
Can we all contact our local MPs ie Pyara Khabra (Southall), Mike Gapes (Ilford South) and book appointments to meet with them.
Its best to go in a group and work out before hand the issues. Also go with the press release and any other replies you may have received for other organisations like the Mayor's Office.
All MPs have web pages, please email the details to them.
GurFateh
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Khalsa ji
Now the weekend is here we all must try to email as many organisations as possible with:
1) The press release of the Al Muju's
2) The Mayor's stance
3) The illegal approach of the organisers and the potential troubles that can occur
4) As far as we know 12.00 noon 25th July is what the organisers are telling people
5) The Al Muju's comments are promoting Racial Hatred, Tension, AntiDemocratic, Unethical. Exactly what the media has highlighted with the BBC programme on the BNP. They are exactly the same!
Also we must continue to pressure the Mayor to release a statement. This will become the basis of our action. Organised and Formal is the approach we must take.
GurFateh
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Japmans
Please do! We must keep the issue alive in the UK and abroad.
All the best
GurFateh
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Spoke to a Al-Muhajiroun representive on the telephone number. The Rally is STILL going ahead and will now start at 12pm not 1pm.
We need to keep the pressure up guys. Keep phoning. The ground work needs to be done by individuals.
The following are also helping stop this event from taking place
British Sikh Federation
Guru Nanak Nishkam Sewak Jatha
Network of Sikh Organisations
Sikh Secretariat/Sikh Federation UK
Sikhs In England
Sikh Missionary Society UK
and Gurmukh Singh of the British Sikh Consultative Forum
Please DO NOT STOP BEING PRO-ACTIVE. Think of any way that you can help prevent the rally.
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This is good.
What we need now is a statement from the Mayor and Met Police.
This will give us a clear direction to take.
Can all start to contact the Mayor for a Statement!!
GurFateh
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Has anyone done any flyers yet? This is the weekend to get them out at the Gurdwaras.
There's a Rehasabhai & Amrit Sanchaar at Gurdwara Dasmesh Darbar, Roseberry Ave, Manor Park, London on Saturday. Would be a good time to distribute information to the sangat....
Please e-mail me.
Thanks
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The BNP campaign at the moment is to attack the muslim religion/community in the UK and win popularity with whites in the areas where there is a large muslim presence.
We cannot and must not agree with any of the BNP policies, however, they mentioned about how muslims are targetting Sikh girls and the Sikh & Hindu community as a whole. They are obviously using the Sikh community as political tool. Islamic conversions were mentioned etc. all the stuff we already know about..
Anyway as this documentary is fresh in people's minds it may be a good time to send the Al-Muhajiroun links to the media and show the other side of the story. We are not being pro-BNP in anyway, but just presenting two sides to the story.
We are not stirring trouble, but the public deserve to know that race hate literature is sent out by both groups.
Al-Muhajiroun are just as bad as the BNP!!
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UK MEDIA
THE TIMES
HOME NEWS home.news@thetimes.co.uk
The Mirror
020 7293 3000
The Sun
news@the-sun.co.uk
London - 020 7782 4100
BBC London News
yourlondon@bbc.co.uk
Tel: 020 7224 2424
ITV NEWS (London Tonight)
editor@itn.co.uk
Telephone:+44 (0)207 833 3000
UK Homeoffice (may help not sure)
public.enquiries@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk
Telephone: 0870 000 1585
Fax: 020 7273 2065
Textphone: 020 7273 3476
Ken Livingstone
Mayor of London
020 7983 4100
mayor@london.gov.uk
Please try to contact these groups.
Yesterday there was a Documentary on the BBC about someone who went undercover in the BNP (Right Wing UK party).
The BNP campaign at the moment is to attack the muslim religion/community in the UK and win popularity with whites in the areas where there is a large muslim presence.
I don't agree with any of the BNP policies, however, they mentioned about how muslims are targetting Sikh girls and the Sikh & Hindu community as a whole. They are obviously using us as an excuse. Islamic conversions were mentioned etc. all the stuff we already know about..
Anyway as this documentary is fresh in people's minds it may be a good time to send the Al-Muhajiroun links to the media and show the other side of the story. We are not being pro-BNP in an
yway, but just presenting two sides to the story.
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The link to http://www.jihadunspun.com/intheatre_inter...&list=/home.ppa no longer works. Looks like they've take it off the website...
If we could say to print this document out and FAX it to all the Media and Mr Ken and other groups ?
What do you think ?
I think you should go ahead and do it veerji. It should help draw some negative publicity to the rally.
Make sure you send a covering letter with it explaining the concerns and issues that will arise if this rally goes ahead. Copy and paste some of the comments posted on this forum.
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Has anyone sucessfully used the links to the MET on line. There seems to be no category for a race hate crime that has not yet occured.
We need to visit Charing Cross Police Station. If anyone is able to go then please report this as a potential Race Hate crime. I am going to try and go tonight or tommorrow after work.
We need as many people as possible to report this. Also has anyone got contact for any Jewish and Christian organistations??
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The link to http://www.jihadunspun.com/intheatre_inter...&list=/home.ppa no longer works. Looks like they've take it off the website...
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Khalsa Ji
Please can everybody get as many people as possible together to ring the mayor's office.
I have contacted the National Union of Hindu Students.
Does anyone have Jewish & Christian Organisations contacts? Together we must keep the pressure up and get the mayor to pull the plug on this event.
GurFateh
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I ahve contacted the Anti Nazi League enquiries@anl.org.uk:
Dear sir or madam
Your organisation's help is required to stop the open and public
slander of other religions by Muslim group on the 25th of July
Below is their press release promoting hatred and has upset many.
Simplistically this boils down to human rights and their arguement
that anything outside of Islam is wrong.
The public conversions are just to humiliate other religions and has
no other motive.
This cannot take place in London as we pride ourselves on its
diversity and ability to learn from each other.
My main fears is that this will be a day where tempers fly and
trouble will erupt. Therefore will it not be better to cancel the
event.
I repeat, this event is not a promotion of Islam but to degrade other
religious beliefs.
Please advise what help you can give. This is an important issue.
Lets contact any agency that can be even slightly relevant
Gur Fateh
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Khalsa ji
This is the way forward.
I have contacted the London Mayor mayor@london.gov.uk:
Dear Ken
The rally on the 25th of July must be stopped, all it is doing is
promoting hatred within religions. The press release from the
Al-Muhajiroun is nothing more than publically humiliating other
religions in the middle of London. Thats not what London's about.
The link below is from a discussion forum which has the press release
and peoples reaction to it!
http://forums.waheguroo.com/index.ppa?act=...&s=60e6c6abf656
d6fb62ae478366561c86
There are going to be problems the best way to divert it is to cancel
the event.
If the event was a simple get together of Muslims wishing to promote
their place in society or to protest against oppression then that
fine, we all have the right to do that.
BUT this is blantant slander and promotion of hatred, the Met Police
will have their hands full and the situtaion can blow out of
proportion. Do not think I am making this up, the press release needs
to be read!! The individual who wish to convert, all the best to them
but by doing this openly, its aim is to insult other religions.
I am Sikh and am deeply upset with what is going on.
You must stop this rally from taking place. Please reply with a plan
of action, otherwise I dread to think what will happen on that day.
Regards
Also log on to www.BBC.co.uk/london and into contact us
Anybody know a email for the Met Police??
How about the polit
ical parties! and other pressure groups. The list is endless, if all the cyber sangat gets together we can create a massive impact
Gur Fateh
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July 25th (London) Sikhs & Hindus invited to
in WHAT'S HAPPENING?
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Jahan, Please take the NF poster off....