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۹β ۣ๘۩ KAUR ۹β ۣ๘۩ - That is your wish. And this is the exact statement i been wanting to make right from the outset. Just shows how much concern and love you really have. Were you guys are so passionate about the anti-sikh things at Swindon then you would have come to a divan and questioned openly with your views and points. But no that means making an effort and coming out from under the haven provided by your pc screen. And so to sum it up all you lot have done is basically nindiya. Simple as. Waheguru

۹β ۣ๘۩ KAUR ۹β ۣ๘۩ your reply is fitting of the majority of the other replies on this thread. Start the nindiya and slagging off - then when someone seeks to put out the fire you jump ship. Thus far only one person (AKJ) has taken the time and effort to debate with Gurbani reference to Munjoth Singhs posts. The rest of you are just making general statements from the luxury of your bedrooms. If you guys are so concerend that this is all so anti-sikhi then why not come to a divan its not as if they are held in secret and ask openly in sangat? However, none of you will do that becuase you are just a bunch of internet kharkoos putting the world to rights from your pc's - how sad. The future of Sikhi hey!

۹β ۣ๘۩ KAUR ۹β ۣ๘۩ - Ok penji please explain to me what nindiya is.............. also u acussed me of not listening to others. fine, do me this one favour go read the other post in the gupt section entitled some advice i think and then come back read this whole thread and then give ur thoughts, cool?

kh@ls@ kid - All i see from you is a constant thirst for hearing gossip and doing nindiya. Waheguru many times I said to you to stop being an internet kharkoo. There are other people posting on here AKJFOREVER at least he is debating with Gurbani not making any old statement. What exactly are you contributing apart from spreading gossip? If you are so concerened with Swindon and Bhai Sewa Singh then stop hiding behind your pc screen and come out in the open and be a man. Stop hiding behind the glories of other great Sikhs (ref, the pic of Sant Ji in your profile). ۹β ۣ๘۩ KAUR ۹β ۣ๘۩ -Pls stop getting hysterical it's not befitting of a Sikh bibi. I was offering you some friendly advice to reference your thoughts before posting them in public opening yourself to ridicule. As a brother its my duty to say that.

۹β ۣ๘۩ KAUR ۹β ۣ๘۩ - Waheguru maybe you should go and reference your logic alongside kh@ls@ kid becuase its a bit distorted to say the least. Have you ever read Gurbani? Do you have knowledge of our history? If your logic was correct then why on earth did our Gurus endure so much during their time is so earth? We recognise Siri Guru Granth Sahib as the eternal truth so why isn't the whole world following Guru Sahibs hukams. Please if you going to post at least post something worth replying to and with a little bit of sense. And finally kh@ls@ kid attended the divan however, he failed as he had initially said prior to attending the divan that he would speak with Bhai Sahib and do vichaar with him. However, he saw it perfectly ok to slag him of and do beant nindiya. (i am now kissing my teeth, lol) don't know what the emoction for that would be..........

kh@ls@ Jio - I am actually starting to warm to you. What sort of logic is that 'If something is true it doesn't need defending because no one will argue against it.' This is so funny that i'm not even going to entertain a reply to it. Listen why are you intent on wasting your swass without any foundation or knowldege of the subject you are talking about. All your views and opinions are hounding you into becoming a hater and we should all be loving! I've decided to go down town with my replies to you as previous posts seem to have flown over your shinny white paag.

To all Waheguru's apologies for the previous excited post. Please forgive me i am learning. However, i still stand by my previous posts regarding the constant spread of mis-information by various posters on this thread. And a benti to all once again please dont write stuff like 'sant avastha is this and that' back it up with Gurbani as Munjoth Singh has been doing. We can all give our own manmatt views and opinions. Munjoth Singh has constantly referenced Guru Sahib for everything he has said. Now lets see the rest of you do that.

aadsach Ji - Please enlighten me more regarding your thoughts about the Tarmala jatha, as you call it. If you are confused regarding some issues then please let us do vichaar peacefully and hopefully we can eliminate any doutbs from your mind so that you can walk on the path.

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kh@ls@ kid You are at it again. Making baseless comments without any proof or justification. Munjoth has answered every single one of your questions but you choose to carry on with your hatred, why?

Aadsach Ji Can you please expand further on your comment regarding sewa and when and what did the Tarmala Singhs say in relation to sewa not being important. Because what you are saying isn’t true. Bhai Sewa Singh Ji does say that sewa alone will not get you mukti, Guru Granth Sahib further cements this in Gurbani. Munjoth Singh could you please post the relevant tuk. And again please with Gurbani being the proof state where it says listening to the shadad is not Sikhi. There are many jatha’s who I know of that believe in tiyaan da simran. They acknowledge a stage where the jaap ajaap finishes. Benti to all Waheguru’s please when posting, replying give Gurbani proof not just gossip or hate filled comments.

i used to be a mohna and up 2 no good all the time.. i spent 5 yrs of my life going back and forth to india seein different people in order to find the true path and someone who can teach the gurbani in the correct way.. SWINDON teaches to only follow the shabad guru (waheguru) and keep away from fakes who think they can give naam. not to lie, gossip, cheat, back bite, envy, look down upon others, con people, take money etc.. ive seen many people come in and out of sangat..the only people who dont seem to stay are those who cant be bothered to do the kamaiee and stop all the bad things they enjoy.. which are against sikhi.. some people dont like the teachings of the bani and choose to go against it and follow the teachings of anaari sant. if it was that bad im sure the family who bought and raised you in this world would not attend sangat themselves why dont you get off your backside and do some kamaiee..instead of reading books and gossiping on the net about people you dont know. bhai sahib works a full time job.. has a family to support, and is giving his own personal time.. no strings attached,,to take sikhi forward.. people should wake up and see what the bani is about. swindon gurdwara has no committee.. no money given during kirtan etc... so many peoples lives have changed.. coming away from fake rituals.. ie..'ghosts in my house'.. black magic etc.. what guru nanak dev ji once taught was the truth.. now fakes come and try destroying that..but mark my words the truth will rise again.. please dont make judgement on people and things u dont know... sikhi is practical...try it and you'll see for yourself mr singh just because your empty inside and can't control your mind don.t hate on those who are trying to walk in the path. come on man theres more to sikhi than wearin a ten foot white turban and a blue dasthar and preachin about god if your lost yourself. you were at the diwan last sunday and were given the opportunity to ask as many questions as you wished on severeal occasions and chose not to. anyon can sit on the net and speak badly of people, why dont you go and confront the person and get all the questions answered and your incorrect thougths corrected. no point in playing chinese whispers.

mr khalsa singh...hows it goin?? u do like going against gurbani don't u?? forget coming to ur house, so many of us mentioned to meet again at the gurdwara but never mind.... maybe it's too late for u.. well firstly meeting up would be easier as talking to u at the moment is a mission and i think i need god's strength to carry on.. :WW: .u twist sooo much mr singh...where did i threaten u? i was simplying stating the facts? even the truth which it seems u can't handle. u question soo much on limited knowledge and thats not very nice is it mr singh?? we're made soo many valid points backed wiv gurbani and sitting here hr's on end, explaining to u makes me think how people have started to question gurbani. its sad, because as a brother i feel obliged to tell u so u 2 benefit. and if u don't agree then fair enuf as some people do question gurbani as urself....use ur phone a baba request and talk to him again...maybe i can have his number? so i too can benefit from his teachings? would u do that? so i can benefit? now in relation to the phyiscal threats...u make me laugh....i'm a peaceful singh and wouldn't even think of such things as urself...i'll be happy if u can give me ur address so i can talk to u, and clear up alot of things? and please don't relate me or the sangat who enjoy coming to swindon as brainwashed sheep as not a gursikh thing to say...or maybe thats the way u are...ur baba should at least tell u how to talk to another sikh. so mr singh? the address?? i do not threaten and i haven't threaten so please don't make cheeky comments...

kh@lsA – Jio I’m amazed at the bare faced cheek and besharmi attitude you’re displaying. You have Sant Ji’s picture next to your name addy and yet you act like a mouse compared to the Lion which he was. Contradiction of terms don’t you think? I mean to have his photo I would guess you either respect him or aspire to be something like him? If so then why have you totally disregarded my request to meet up? For your information Sant Ji was a man of his word (a trait which you sadly lack) and a man of honour. He didn’t run into the woods when the army advanced on Darbar Sahib. And yet you got his pic up but you acting the big kharkoo behind your web browser, why? What you afraid of? So easy to spread hatred from behind your pc screen. I’m glad you can differentiate between anger and birr <admin-profanity filter activated> – however at the same time maybe you should refresh your definition on Nindiya. Anyway once again I will offer my request – be a man and you can pose and ask as many questions as you like, where ever you like. And bring along you’re telephone baba.

kh@lsA – Jio So now we gonna do some jokes? Hey it's all good with me. However, I don't get my kicks out of dissing people behind fake names on the internet. If I have an issue with something or someone I will either; 1. Speak to them direct Or 2. Turn the other cheek and shut my mouth. But I don't see you doing that just like I don't see you answering a simple question. Furthermore, what would you call your posts in this and the Gupt thread, if they aren't cussing and slagging Bhai Sahib off, what are they? And hey I don't need to do dhadi to vent my bir ras, that’s if I have any I have much better ideas than that, and I'm sure you could accommodate me in some way! As I said before please refrain from innuendo you have problem call Bhai Sahib and ask him direct. Or why don't we meet up and I would be happy to answer any of your question’s, at a place of your choosing. Don't be an internet gangster be a man and then aspire to be a Sikh......... Cool?

kh@lsA – Jio Its not anger bro just the plain simple truth. Once again i ask you why have you taken it upon your shoulders to slag Bhai Sahib off when you did not speak to him. Do you wnat me to repeat the question again? And the pankti i quoted was in reply to your question regarding simran vidhis in Guru Granth Sahib. There is a difference by the way between anger and bir ras. Ok Khalsa Ji!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kh@lsA – Jio In answer to your previous ramblings on this thread thus far, reflect on the following pankti 'dhun mein dhiaan, dhiaan mein jaania, gurmukh akath kahani' This should give you food for thought regarding simran jugti's. Furthermore, in your post on the thread in the Gupt section you said that you would post your thoughts regarding Swindon after you had attended the divan and spoke to Bhai Sahib. However, as you stated yourself you didn't speak to Bhai Sahib but have proceeded to cuss him without any further consideration. Why? Your excuse about being intimidated is lame and weak. SaRpAnCh Sahib - The guy who was supposedly dissed by Bhai Sahib at Havelock Road - give the correct and truthful facts not supposition or lies. I attended all the Haveloack Road divans and this situation did not take place. If it did then give the facts. s1ngh –ni Bhai Sewa Singh Tarmala has never, ever, said that by doing simran you can have darshan of Guru Sahib. Consult the mp3's on simran.info for further information. And now to the rest of you internet kharkoo's stop being hero’s on the internet if you have an issue or a grievance then take it up direct. Don't hide behind your pc screens and slag people off. If you have a valid point to make then please make it direct, Bhai Sahib's number is openly available if anybody wishes to speak with him. However, posts such as I spoke to my mahapursh and he said it’s a cult is just we laughable.