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im going to ask those questions in a better format, i put a reply on this forum but it never got posted so ill do it again 1. 99% of khalistanis ive seen won't fight for khalistan, i see them hiding in uk canada america demanding khalistan but they won't pick up a gun and fight for it, to me i only think 1% of khalistanis will fight for it and their already in asia planning different tactics fighting for khalistan, so how do you plan on getting khalistan when 99% of the ppl won't fight for it 2. half the youth are on drugs, this is cause their spoiled not no stupid conspiracy theory that hindus are getting youth on drugs, everytime i go their and hang out with the youth their i see their parants give them waht ever they want and watch their parants spoil their son's, and don't say its cause of financial reasons less and less boys are graduating school, its cause of the gender inequality and how boys are being spoiled and treated like kings, cause punjab is the richest state in india yet more and more boys are dropping out of school while more and more girls are graduating with degrees now, so how do you plan on getting khalistan when half the boys their are hooked on drugs dropping out of school 3. how do you plan on getting khalistan when most the ppl in punjab want to move to the west like canada uk america 4. how do you plan on getting khalistan when ppl are aborting girls left right and center 5. you believe you can trust the pakistanis, many khalistanis became friends with muslims even though the muslims from pakistan were just using them, but i believe if their is to be a khalistan pakistan will attack just like they attack to win over kashmire 6. plus how many khalistanis not know how india's political system work, especially the ppl who think indira gandhi was part of hindutva even though rss and hindtuva groups wanted to kill her nehru and killed gandhi personally i believe we need to focus on fixing the problems in our community in the west and in india, fix the drug problem get the youth more involved with the community in solving problems, and rebuild our community from the ground up so we can lead in country's like uk canada america and also so the sikh community can lead the fight in india against corruption and for justice for all the victims of the punjab police and indian govt and for all the victims in india who have bin harmed thanks to india's corrupt govt id rather have us fix the problems in our community and lead a war against corruption in india rather then run away form a country and let criminals in india's govt get away with harming everyone else in india, sikhs will be able to help more and accomplish more in india then in a khalistan which i don't see happening, so why waste energy on chanting khalistan

LOL That explains your questions and responses in the thread "few questions for Khalistanis" what do you mean

You make out as though 'Man in pugri' potecting alcohol and ciggerets are meant to encourage Bir Rass in the Naujwaan and fester some from of Sikh pride or promote Sikh bottle-fighting skills. So when does defending a stock of alcohol and tabocco warrant a saropa from the Panth or a mention that Sikhs are 'brave'....Last time I checked they were Bujar Kurehits along with kes katal and adultry. Wonder how you'd feel if the man was pimping as Maharaj's puts the consumption of alcohol and tabocco along with extra-martial relationships/visiting prostitutes....but hey...this is pardes and people need to 'earn' a living/ And then what, had the 'Man in Pugri' died in the process would we have made him a panthic Shaheed and put his picture in the langar hall..? I can show you dozens of fist fights between Uncles at Jatt/Punjabi wedding receptions usually out of some stupid misunderstanding and over indulgence of alcohol. The alcohol which our gracious off-licence heroes provide to them. i don't know what your going on about and you totally missed the point of the topic, the topic is about these guys having the guts to protect their property and fighting back, i don't know why your all <Edited> off and lecturing everyone on this and that, once again point of the video is that props to these guys cause they have the guts to protect their property were most ppl run like cowards

Those 'Singhs' protected the sacred ciggrettes and barcardi bottles from the clutches of the evil robber. Another great cause worth dieing for......No one will dare nick ciggerettes from a Singh with his mahan wine bottle as a trusted shaster...Now we can get Khalistan...no problem...what panthic heroes.. point of the thread is these singhs have balls to defend their buisnesses were guys like you would run like cowards

i should of better worded my questions 1. how do you plan on getting khalistan when half the youth are hooked on drugs, and i blame this on youth being spoiled in the punjab, bin their a dozen times and see boy's getting new bikes getting money from their parants yet their parants don't check how well their doing in school and so on 2. punjab is the richest state in india yet more and more youth are dropping out of school how do you plan on getting khalistan with youth dropping out of school, and on top of that could you explain why more girls are graduating post secondary in punjab then ever before yet less and less boys are????? i think this is a bigger problem to deal with then chanting khalistan while hiding in canada or england, and right now the biggest problem in our community is gender inequality were boys are treated like kings and end up as crack heads in punjab and birth of a girl the family cry's and she's raised to be a house wife(this has helped girls develope strong work ethic hence why they finish school but this work ethic is developed in a bad way instead it should be both brother and sister sharing responsibilitys at home) and gender inequality is why many girls in punjab suffer low self esteem and more and more girls in punjab are having pre marital sex, and i would say from my last trip their more then half the girls their are having pre marital sex, so good luck getting khalistan when youth are dropping out of school getting hooked on drugs and girls are suffering from lower self esteem 3. most ppl in punjab want to live iin the west how do you plan on getting khalistan when everyone wants to move 4. 99% of ppl who want khalistan are hiding in the west and won't fight for it, how you plan on getting khalistan this way, if you want it grab a gun and go get it other wise why talk about it, only 1% of ppl who want khalistan will fight for it and their all out in asia hiding around planning different tactics 5. why not fix india rather then run and create a khalistan, lets get justice rather then get a different country, wow we have our own country but jagdesh tytler still runs free, doesn't make since to me, lets get justice and fight the corruption in india, i think sikhs are better off trying to fix india rather then creating their own country, and its the corruption thats hurting everyone, but have you seen how india is progressing india's progress shows that justice can be brought in india and that they country can turn around, with so much corruption many see india as the next superpower with china 6. pakistan would <banned word filter activated> khalistan the moment khalistan was born, lol you might be dumb enough to trust muslims but im not sikhs are better off fixing problems in their community to make our community stronger in order to lead in country's like canada and uk and america and to be the community in india that leads the fight against corruption and poverty but it starts at the bottom and moves its way up, and with most youth in the west and punjab not knowing anything about sikh history or sikhi and with problems like drugs and gender inequality, i believe this is were we need to start in order for sikhs to have an incredibile future

im against a movie about kps gill, but i loved singh is king and any other movie were the singh is the hero in the movie and i believe if bollywood wants to make movies were singhs are heros i think that is great

were you have high volume of muslims you need sikh groups to terrorise them, the shere punjab should never disapeared

so true, and through seminars and camps teach parants not to favour their sons over their daughters, and get young sikhs involved in solving community problems so they feel like their involved in the community, and educate boys on treating sikh girls as their sisters, like the muslims who treat other muslim girls like their sisters but then unfortanatly they go after sikh girls to have physical pleasure

sikhism is about love, but at the same time its also about standing up for ourselves, our community

why do so many sikhs in the world fail to defend themselves or fight back when insulted, especially when it comes to muslims why are so many sikhs so soft now a days and just take crap and how many of you have no problem standing up and fighting back when ppl try attacking you and your sikhi

but sikhs shouldn't be taking this in england instead when they try terrorising sikhs the sikhs should smash up all the muslim areas and just find and smash the extremists, and get all these old baba who act like brave sikhs but arn't that run the gurdwaras to fork out the cash or money from their pockets or gurdwaras to pay for these guys lawyers if the mulsim community try's charging these guys

but how do we bring the sikh community together to stand up side by side and fight the issues we have today, how do we come together with that passion and fire the same fire sikhs had when fighting afhgans an mughuls

I found the below story. It's disturbing. But I'm wondering whether anyone can confirm it's true or not? It just seems too horrific to be real. ______________ A true account of what happened to a girl in Pakistan. A tale of truth and is upsetting. First of all before I start telling you what happened with me, I would like to thank my paa ji who showed me how my sorrow could be someone elses relief. Thank you paa ji. My story started when I was 16 years old living in Handsworth, we had just finished our last GCSE exams. To celebrate, we all decided to go to a "bhangra gig" during the day, as we knew we would not have been allowed to go in the night. There were 4 of us, best of friends, we decided to go, although we knew we would get into trouble if are parents found out, but we thought that we "only live once" and as it was a special occasion, so we went. This was the first time any one of us had done something like this, it was an experience. When we got there we could not believe how many people our age were there from all over Birmingham, all Asian! I was shocked more than my friends, there were people drunk, boys/girls smoking, this was the new generation of Asians enjoying the western world freedoms. I remember saying to my friends, "We need to stick together, no matter what happens", we honestly did not know what was going to happen once we were inside. Once we got in, they were playing some old bhangra tune? The whole place was packed with "apnaay". Everyone was just so chilled out, it was unbelievable. We got to a side of the club, and just stood there staring at every one dancing, flirting and of course fighting. About an hour later, we were approached by this really nice looking guy, came over to my mate and started chatting, we then noticed the "Kara" on his arm so we assumed it was ok to chat to him, his name was "Mick". We were then introduced to his mates, all of them were really smart and good looking. And we were enjoying this mingling with boys for the first time, we felt both scared and excited, because we had never done this before. They brought us drinks, and encouraged us to have some alcohol something we all strongly at that time refused, but once we paired up and went our separate ways everything changed (I never saw my friends again until a couple hours later, dancing with some strangers, and they were not themselves. I could not believe it, they were drunk! We justified dancing the way we were as we always danced at wedding parties.) I went over to them to see what had happened, they totally ignored me and encouraged me to drink which I then did. My dad would drink a lot so I assumed it be ok). We left the club at the end, it was about 4 o' clock, I remember thinking how the hell are we going to get home? We were giggling, And we were late and drunk. I knew my gran would, phone my mum at work if I did not get home in the next 20mins, (I was normally home about 3:50pm, and it was already ten past four, I was in the middle of Birmingham City centre, 40mins away from home by bus!! I was so scared, I knew I was going to get into serious trouble once I got home, and I smelt strongly of smoke and alcohol. My dad was going to kill me. We did not know what to do? Then the guys, who we were dancing in the club, came over and asked us if we were alright? or if we needed anything?, i.e. a lift home, because we were so desperate, we said yes. They dropped us home, we exchanged numbers and they went. I got slapped that day, my dad went absolutely mad, because I had lied, went to a club, danced with boys and got drunk! The whole family was really upset. I remember thinking I will never do anything like this again. My friends got the same treatment. It was not until a couple of weeks later, that some one kept ringing my house number, anonymous caller, and my gran, bless her, would go over to answer the phone, but no reply. Then one day, as my gran was cooking my roti, the phone rang and I answered, it was that guy from the club. I didn't know what to do. I was scared and yet anxious to what might happen. He wanted us to meet up again, he wanted to know how we were? This was going to be my first relationship. I got to know "Abs" over the next couple of months, we would arrange, the best times for him to call me, it was exciting, no one knew about him, I felt needed and loved. He was 18 at the time, and I had just turned 16. He drove a really nice car and worked for his uncle, in I.T. It got to a stage were we would meet up in the middle of the night, I would sneak out of my house, he would pick me up at the bottom of my street, and we would go everywhere together I was loving every minute of it and every time we would not see each other, I felt like dying I was truly in love with him. I did notice that he was not Punjabi, he dressed different to normal Punjabi boys that age, and he didn't drink and smoke. He knew a lot of Muslims, but I decide to ignore that fact, as I was having the time of my life. I had a funny feeling he was Muslim, but he wore a Kara? and I never had the courage to ask him, because I didnt want to ruin anything between us. But finally that day came when he revealed that he must go to the mosque, I was taken back, I didnt know how to respond, my boyfriend was a Muslim, and I loved him too much to let him go. I asked him about his name, his nickname was Abs. he had told me his name was Harbinder, but in fact his name was Yasseen. This was a distressing situation, he had lied to me and led me on to believe he was Sikh, but was in fact a Muslim. I confronted him, I asked him, you knew I was a Sikh, then why did you get into this relationship with me? He answered my question with a question, does it matter? And I remember replying "No" after a few minutes, I thought to myself he's not your typical Muslim, and he has treated me with respect. It was a hard time, I felt like breaking up with him, he was a Muslim, it wouldn't work? But I could not help it, he loved me, I loved him, and I kept reminding myself, he was different, and all those good times we had during the start of our relationship. So we decided to give it a shot, (what fool I was), we would spend a lot of time together, he got me job at his uncles firm, they all treated me with respect although I was a Sikh, and all of them were Muslim, they were so nice to me. I felt wanted and at home with me boyfriends family. We saw each other for over 2 year's (all through collage) and then came the time for me to leave my home and go to university, I went out of town a good few hours away, I wanted to live as far as away from my family as possible, as they were the obstacle, in my life from him. I had stopped wearing my Kara and my gold khanda necklace. I also stopped going to the Gurdwara, because I did not want to offend him, and I would use that time instead to be with him. I loved him and would do anything for him, anything. At university. Things got a bit serious, I lived in halls first, but everyone would look at me and call me names to my face and behind my back, they even trashed my flat twice!! All because I was going out with a Muslim, I would try to explain to them, he was different and he loved me, they would not have none of it, I felt so bad, he had to go through a lot because of me. This was a really bad experience for me, and I felt vulnerable and weak. Things started to change a lot during the first few weeks at my university. I quit uni, and moved into a flat with him, he got me another job, and again his cousin helped us financially. I never told my parents that I had done this, they would phone me, I would say everything was going excellent, and I would lie to them. During this time, I started to stop going home, I would say that I had too much uni work to do, and so I couldnt come home. Then, I stopped answering my phone from my family and friends, because I knew all they would say is to stop seeing him, and come home etc. so I changed my number, that's not the only thing I changed, a few months later I changed my name! We were happy together, we were in love, we were made for each other!! A few months later I even changed my faith, I became a Muslim, I was happy then to finally be apart of something that was so great, everyone loved me, and I was finally at home and peace. Islam then offered everything to me, it made sense and was the truth, Sikhism had to many flaws in it, or that is what I was told, and I believed everything he said, it all made sense, Sikhism was a man-made religion, it believed in caste (we had Gurdwara made on caste) we would make our women dance half naked on bhangra video's, while Islam would teach us to cover the women because she is so precious, like an diamond. I was duped, I knew nothing about Sikhism, my parents never told me, and I never learnt anything at the Gurdwara, never understood what the Granthi's were saying. And as a result I believed everything he told me. We then decided to get married, but he said we should go to Pakistan to that, because his sisters were there, and they were all dying to meet me! So I agreed, we went. The year was 1994, I was 19 years old. What I am about to tell you now, is the most disturbing part of my life, I have had to receive medical treatment from Doctor's on a regular basis for a long period, due to this. I would like to say something before I continue, what I am about to tell you, is no exaggeration in any way, this is exactly how it happened, and the metropolitan police are well aware of it. Whilst I was on the flight over to Pakistan, I was so excited, I was finally going to get married to the love of my Life, I never thought about my family or friends, as I had everything I ever needed through him. And because I was taught to believe that they were the devil, they will take me to hell, and I did not want to go there. When we reached Pakistan, there were a few people there to greet us, I had worn the hi-jab, as a sign of respect to my new in-laws and faith. They were so happy to see me. We were then herded into a 4x4, and then of we went to meet the rest of Yasseen's family. We were driving for a few hours, and I was absolutely worn out. We then stopped at what seemed to be a police station or the local sheriff's office, the luggage was taken out of the jeep, and these men came and took the luggage away, Yasseen came over and took my personal belongings, everything, my passport, money even my toothbrush, he said the police wanted to check our things, in case we were smuggling drugs, I remember laughing at first, but when I looked at his face, he was deadly serious, I gave him everything and then I was taken to a room, where I was told to wait. They asked Yasseen questions. It seemed like ages, while I waited in that room, on my own. I was getting very worried for Yasseen. During this time, two more cars and a jeep had come to this police station. Finally, a middle aged man came over and started to ask me personal questions. I had trouble understanding what he was saying, he spoke so fast, in Urdu. I kept asking him to take me to Yasseen. He said "Yasseen has gone", those three words stopped my heart beating, I was alone in a remote village in Pakistan, with no belongings and locked up a room. I did not know what to think? What was happening? This was not supposed to happen? Where had Yasseen gone? I cried, and pleaded with the men there to take me to Lahore, they would simply laugh at me and beat me. For a few days, I did not eat or sleep, I was disorientated, and I did not know what to do? I became ill, I was very weak, a doctor was called, he gave me some medicine, with which all I did was sleep. The next thing I remember was, when I woke up in a room, with a small barred window, and a small door. This door was locked from the outside, I started to scream, a women cam rushing over. I was relieved for a moment that women had come over to my aid, until she started to shout at me and curse me. I didn't know what was going on. I just sat there in that small, cold room, with blank mind. They would give some bread and water three times a day. I was allowed to go to the toilet only once a day. By now I had realized, I was not going home and Yasseen was not coming to my rescue. The building I stayed at was 3 storeys, and was very big. It must have had more than 30 rooms. It was the only building there, there was nothing anywhere around this building, just fields and 1 tarmac road. It was a brothel. I was not a lone there were 3 other girls (Sikh) that were in the same situation as me. We were all kept on the top floor, we were all given one room each. The other girls had been there longer than me, we would get a chance to speak during the night. They told me of their stories and how they got here, they sounded familiar. It would be very cold during the night. They told me, on the 3rd day, what happens here. This where, the locals came to enjoy themselves. I was very frightened. This is where they would come to quench their desires. I remember how they treated us, they would treat us like animals, they would rape us, and then spit on our faces after they were done. It was a living nightmare, with no escape. I spent 15 months here, over that period of time, I have seen 36 more girls been brought here, I have seen 7 commit suicide, by jumping of the building and 20 odd taken away by rich businessmen who would use them in their own brothels. I saw and lived in HELL, I saw young girls being raped, I herd the screams of these girls and their frustration, that no one would help them. When I first saw the police approach the building, I thought that we had been saved, was I proved wrong, they beat a girl to death right in front of us all, to show us who was in charge, and what would happen if we didnt co-operate. If you think for a second, that what I am saying is lies, go and approach the Scotland Yard, they have the full details of who the girls were and where they were from. I saw this with my own eyes, and no-one ever helped us. A time came when me and another girl, got the opportunity to escape, we had been taken to a local tribesmans house, a fight had broken out, in his house, in the confusion Guru ji gave us an opportunity to escape, we took a jeep, and set out on the roads, we didnt know where we were going, we just went, where ever the road took us. We got close to a town Called Eminabad, here we informed the police of what had happened to us, they helped us, we were handed over to the British embassy and sent back to the UK. Once back in the UK, the police tried to hand us back to our families, OUR OWN families had disowned us, my family told me to go away, that I had brought shame to the family name, I tried to apologise, and they would not accept it. I even tried to get help form the Gurdwara, they said they could not help us. We had to go back to the police, who then put us in a witness protection programme. The year is 1996, I was then 21. We both were given a new chance to start a fresh, the police helped us a great deal. In the programme we were given a place to stay and they gave us new jobs, to rebuild our lives. I am now 29, married and a 3 year old girl. I re-initiated into Sikhism in 1998, me and my friend, we took Amrit and took an active role to combat what had happened to us and help others in the same situation. There is not a single second that goes by, without me thinking about those poor girls locked up in Pakistan. I have been scared for life. But I must do everything I can to try to create awareness to help those girls that scream every night and go through that abuse. I am thankful to the Police who are trying to help those girls, but I think we as a community need to do much more. We must come out of hiding, and face the danger these girls now face. But what we find is a really negative attitude employed by all parties, the families, Gurdwara and the girls, to do anything about this. I know what happened to me and what is still happening to those that are in Pakistan. Accordingly to the latest figures, there are 300 girls there right now, facing constant abuse, who are getting drugged up everyday and then raped. One of them is your relative!! Just keep that I mind, your cousin who you have not seen for over 3 years, went to university and never came back! When you ask your uncle and auntie, where is your cousin who you nor your family have seen for so long, you get the reply, that she has brought a house there and she has found herself a good job, and so she is constantly busy. I beg you please stop these lies, please help my sisters' in Pakistan, who no-one helps, their families are too scared, or they don't know where she is? We must put a stop to this, I saw what is happening there, believe me, I do not even wish this to happen my enemies, when you see a young girl being raped by savages, who beat her and then spit on her you remember God, believe me when all you can hear is her screams to stop and her cry for help all you can do is watch. Those girls need your help! I pray all the time to Guru, to please help, those girls, every time I get the chance. We must make sure not a single girl goes to that living Hell from today. We must educate every one of our girls and boys about our religion. We must take it upon our selves to educate ourselves and our own families about Sikhism and the dangers it faces constantly. We must thrive to make sure this never happens to any girl, irrelevant of her religion ever again. I hope Guru Ji helps us. I hope you at least help your self and your own family. I would like to thank both the Pakistan and British police that are trying to combat this increasing trend, I hope all those that took those poor girls over to Pakistan, realise that God is within us all, and not just in the heavens, I wish they could just imagine for 1 single second, that one of those girls was their own sister! No one would ever want this to happen to anyone, believe me. We have altered the above account to safe guard our source. The name and locations have been changed and how our penji escaped has been changed dramatically for the simple reason not to jepordise any other girls opportunity to escape. Please note this is not racial incitement as it was MUSLIMS that finally got penji back into Britain. We would like to thank penji for giving us this account, we can only appreciate how hard it must have been to write this or what she went through! I would also like to say, please do not discriminate a whole race because of a small minority. This is against the principles Sikhi PLEASE EDUCATE OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS ON OUR BEAUTIFUL HISTORY, LEARN ABOUT YOUR RELIGON SO THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN TO OUR FELLOW BROTHERS AND SISTERS AGAIN. found this on http://www.tapoban.o...i=18854&t=18854 ------------ Admin Note: Please post such topics under 'Sikh Politics' or News section.

accept the youth who have the balls to go to war with the pakis, rest of the sikhs or majority of the sikh youth in england needs something to bring them together and to grow some balls if this is going on and attack back and destroy these pakis or those old school shere punjab guys need to get alot of these youth together and put that fire in them to protect their community and to attack these pakis and to stand up for and protect fellow sikhs

and if so how in the world are their sikhs getting bullied by muslims, this is a slap in our faces http://www.westernresistance.com/blog/archives/2008_01.html reading some of these articles, this stuff is pathetic how in the world do these guys fear ppl who marry their cousins Izzadeen is a follower of Omar Bakri Mohammed, who used to belong to Al Muhajiroun. After Bakri disbanded Al Muhajiroun in October 2004, Izzadeen helped Bakri to lead two derivative groups. He is currently awaiting trial on terrorism charges. Bakri urged his followers to claim welfare benefits from the government they hated. His followers had no problem beating opponents in the street. Bakri's followers, such as Abdul Muhid (pictured right), have engaged in harassment of Sikhs and have fought with police. These followers have used violence and intimidation, the methods of street gangs, to gain "respect". Sikhs and Muslims, though classed together by British media as "Asians" have been engaged in gang warfare since the 1990s. In Slough, west of London in 1997, fighting flared up between a Sikh gang called Shere-e-Punjab (the Lions of Punjab) and Muslims from Chalvey, a suburb of Slough called the Chalvey Boys. Shere-e-Punjab had been formed in Handsworth, Birmingham, in the 1980s, and has grown to include parts of London, Slough and Derby. When the Slough violence erupted in 1997, with reports of Sikhs terrorizing Muslims in their homes (and Chalvey Boys responding by attacking Sikh homes, stores and cars), a group was set up in the town called Aik Saath. This group lasted for eight years and acted as an intermediary between Sikh and Muslim gang members. After 9/11, tensions between Sikh and Muslim youths returned, with much of the conflict centered around schools. On May 16, 2006 violence occurred between students of two schools in Burnham in Slough, in which one student was stabbed. A year earlier, one of these schools, Burnham Grammar School, had given a Sikh student permission to carry a ceremonial knife (kirpan) in class. In Derby, violence between gangs of Sikh and Muslim school students took on surreal proportions. In October 2001, an argument over the events of 9/11 led to a gang of youths, apparently Muslims, breaking into Derby Moor Community School. A girl from the school had allegedly argued with Muslim girls over the American Al Qaeda attacks, and one Muslim girl had her headscarf ripped. The gang who invaded the school she attended carried axes and hammers. After smashing windows, the gang attacked students and the teachers who tried to intervene. Five children were taken to hospital. One of these, a 15-year old Sikh girl who was thought to have been involved in the earlier argument, received spinal injuries and a fractured skull. After the attack, a Muslim gang paraded outside the school, chanting "Osama bin Laden". Tensions between Muslims and Sikhs had been exacerbated by distribution of a letter which urged Muslims to get Sikh girls drunk and convert them to Islam. The letter came from a group calling itself "Real Khilafa", which appears to have been a front group of Al Muhajiroun. A fortnight after the school attack, a 22-year old Sikh male was ambushed by a gang of Muslims in Derby. The assailants carried hammers and crowbars. Harjit Singh Sandhu received a broken leg and cuts to his head and face. Sandhu's friend said that the injured young man had run into Muslim shops for help but received none. Previously, Muslims had tried to run Mr Sandhu down in a car which drove onto the sidewalk. A Muslim gang called the Youth Muslims Organization continued to patrol Derby's streets calling out Osama bin Laden's name.

does anyone have any other ideas on how to keep sikh girls from dating and marrying muslims

these are awsome ideas in surrey we got lucky we had a bunch of young guys win the election and take over power of the gurdwara but now the old guys are taking the matter to court, but these old guys well majority of them have let them community down and need to be booted out, especially the once who judge others the once who get up and tell others their bad cause they do this or that and cause their not gursikhs, those dumbasses really need to be kicked out and get ppl who know how to inspire others to be better sikhs rather then piss them off

im loving how so many sikhs are getting involved in mma

regarding khalistan my questions are this everyone i know who wants khalistan doesn't want to go fight for khalistan, so why preach it with all the problems with our community why are we wasting energy chanting khalistan why waste money and energy on khalistan when we don't need a country, instead we should focus that energy on getting justice for the 84 victims, and getting justice for all the victims of the punjab police and indian army most khalistanis want to be friends with pakistanis which i don't support cause what they did to us in 47, and what pakistanis continue to do in places like uk, you have things like sikh muslim foundation which is a slap in our faces, the website panthicweekly sure loves kissing pakistan <banned word filter activated> and this makes me turn on khalistan even harder we have serious problems in our community like guys getting hooked on drugs and girls running off with muslims, lets focus on fixing those problems and getting justice for the victims in india plus how would khalistan survive economically with so much corruption in punjab, and with almost half the youth hooked on drugs how would we survive as a military when pakistan will come in to kick our butt who will live their when everyone wants to move to canada uk america farming is all we have in punjab and its not good enough anymore the youth arn't getting educated their dropping out of schools their's so many problems their is no way of having khalistan but we can sure fix the problems like drug abuse but for everyone who still wants khalistan tell me how will you get khalistan with all these problems, and why no one is willing to fight for it

go tell that to the parents who found out when its too late, and have lost their daugters. lol those parants had no idea on how to parant, thats why their daughters have run away. being to strict will make kids rebell and especially during the teenage years and if your thinking about being strict and usign spy stuff on girls then you should not ever be a parant

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thats weird no offence what do you find weird ??? Isn't most of that illegal, if not all? no mate, do it the right way that is. why would you spy on someone, if your marrying a girl and you need to get a spy its weird and you shoulnd't be marrying her if you can't trust her all this only marry someone if you trust them is true, but alot of stuff goes on when the bloke is not around. theres loads of guys who wished they used this type of service. its ok you carry on living in your poltcivaly correct world, and see what happens. lol and those blokes are usually losers, trust me if your that insecure that you need to spy on a girl then its sad and freaking weird

how should we raise our children as a community

thats weird no offence what do you find weird ??? Isn't most of that illegal, if not all? no mate, do it the right way that is. why would you spy on someone, if your marrying a girl and you need to get a spy its weird and you shoulnd't be marrying her if you can't trust her

those are pretty awsome ideas what are your ideas on using the gurdwara better on educating sikh youth, everyone goes to the gurdwara but majority of us don't know sikhi, how can we make the gurdwara more effective