KEERPA

video tape it and then there is no excuse for any liars that will say they werent doing the beeaadbi.

while Akhand Paat was recited the Granthi wasnt even reciting and I didnt even know their was an Akhand Paat (the room was dark and I didnt hear one sound I thought I was the only one in the main Darbar Sahib) and I started playing kirtan by myself and then after a couple mins a Babaji came and shut the doors to the Akhand Paat room because I was playing kinda loud but after I stopped I went to do chaur seva in the main hall and the Granthi that was done with his 2 hours walked out and a new Granthi was actually reciting the Akhand Paat. I was like "oooppps" but then thought "he wasnt even reciting" so I didnt feel so bad cause I was in the main hall for almost 1 hour by myself and didnt hear a sound from the Akhand Paat room etc........ Then later that day I went in to the Akhand Paat room to listen to Paat and he was still reading while a fly was on Guru Sahibs Ang so I started doing Chaur Seva because he didnt care (and thats one main thing the Chaur is for etc) and after I started doing Chaur seva the paathi stopped reciting and just read to himself, and after that was paying attention to me and lost his spot for at least 10 seconds a few times...... OMG doing Akhand Paats now ah daze is a waste of paying moorukh Granthis to do their job. If you want an Akhand Paat better do it yourself cause you cant really trust anyone to do their job as Granthis. Its sad to say this because there are those Granthis who I love to hear them sing the Paat (I dont know his name but 1 was the old Granthi at Bradshaw Gurdwara maybe now Granthi at Antelope Gurdwara, and another was the old Granthi at West Sac Gurdwara 3 years ago) They sang the hukamnamas in Raag, and it always sounded awesome and I felt it every time.

I almost think sometimes some Granthis estimate where they should be in the lapsed time and skip up to that spot at the weeee hours of the night etc...........

Sad............ :sad:

then just find the other ones you want. like SUkhmani Sahib Paat is good to watch and listen etc....

or watch a video that shows alot of kurbani before you do paat and it will inspire you to love to do your paats etc................

that "Amar Khalsa" video is a good way to know why we are fortunate to even have paat still here today......

A veer Sahib did one yesterday at a youth group thing, and it was kewl.

get a roll of toilet paper and have them tear off as much as they want(they are responsible for every bit they tear off) and once everyone is done tearing sheets they have to share as many facts about themselves that they tore off the roll. :D I just grabbed it and tore off ten sheets and was like omg, I had the most everyone else tore off 1-5 sheets

I thought it was neat and had fun listening to the facts about everyone, you get a sense about all the people in the group when you hear the stuff you never knew about them etc..........

SO if you walk 20feet away from the Gurdwara you are saying its "not so bad"? or "ok"?????????????? :6

people always try to make facebook pages in support of foolish people against Sikhi. I come across stupid people using facebook as a way of clearing people of their foolishness/evil ways

Why is the majority of posters on this site so obsessed with kaam threads????????? Can we use bibek and know its wrong to have relations before married??????

Can we post threads that arent rhetorical ???????????????????????????????

ok ok Ill watch my posts Bhainji Sahib. One thing about my post is we are supposed to be saint/soldiers but some of us cant even run(seriously) we are supposed to know how to be a true religious person and also be able to stand up for injustice(not just with words) Are we able to defend ourselves?(not just with words) Yes I fell short of being religious with that statement I made Ill watch it hehehe from now on :BL:

a good first step the panth can take KEWL

We shouldnt have to "hawkeye" our kids at the Gurdwara in order to detour this from happening.

WE need a committee that goes around to random Gurdwarey that collect gholek money and have a nishan Sahib and if they are reported by them of beadbi then the person/people incharge need to be blacklisted and suspended until their tankhiya is made up for and have three boards 1) recognising/reporting beeaadbi 2) dealing with the black list 3) checking how well the punishment implemented affected the problem.... after all that said and dont and it happens further then excommunication and they be listed as a beeaadbi of Sikhi to allow them in your system etc.....

OMG major beeaadbi OMG :sad: Idiots who run the Gurdwara know wats going on, they need to have their faces blackened

how to get fat?

Ask some of the BabaJis at the Gurdwara hahahahahaah (not saying all are fat and lazy but omg a lot are and cant see their toes hahahaha)

holy water canot do anything.

Even blood could not break the amrit of the warrior singhs!!!

one drop of alcohol can break one though, anything other than AMrit is poison.

Pesh

people pesh because they feel they have broken their bond with Guru Sahib (I dont think there is nothing wrong with it to pesh if needed) but if you lie to Guru Sahib or take Amrit like if you are going to break it again then you arent clever and God will know you as a liar.

I was going to say go to youtube (rajkaregakhalsa) and type in japji/jaap Sahib/ etc... and watch the english while you hear the Gurmukhi recitations you can even read the Gurmukhi if learning to read Gurmukhi or as bhai Sahib wrote get a gutka with translations in it.

Going to india is like way better than that so youre fortunate(I dont believe in luck) to do that so Im jealous :lol:

Youre on a good track just stick to it without compromising your Sikhi to manmukhs way of life.

Gurbani says only the "rare" bunch understands and follows Guru Sahib, and the rest will all weep and wail at the end when they beg to be religious to not be thrown back into the cycle of transmigration. Sikhi is for the True people not the "majority of people" even if religiously schooled doesnt mean they will "do" what they should.

ਅੰਧੁਲੈ ਨਾਮੁ ਵਿਸਾਰਿਆ ਮਨਮੁਖਿ ਅੰਧ ਗੁਬਾਰੁ ॥

andhhulai naam visaariaa manamukh andhh gubaar ||

The blind have forgotten the Naam, the Name of the Lord. The self-willed manmukhs are in utter darkness.

Ive been seeing fake "Sikhs"(cause they have the last name Singh) broadcast in the news for years. Nothing new to me that the media wants to make Sikhs look bad.

Singh should not be a born name (in my opinion) I know of many people with the last name "Singh" that are far from religious and I also know a guy with the last name "Singh" that is a drug addict bad tempered christian that extorts money from his own mother (his mom told me not to do anything cause she will feel "bad" if I do anything about him hurting her, so I have to respect her wishes instead of tossing the supposed "singh" in the trash I can only ignore his extortion of money for his drugs)

tie a round dastar not to tight and its the most comfy.

Firstly, as someone who is clearly well disciplined and righteous, don't you think it is part of your duty to socialise with so called 'bad people' and help them see the rightpath. Isolating yourself is an indication that you are a self-centred soul who is religous solely to benefit himself and not society at large. I don't think that is what sikhism is about.

These qoute from Guru Granth Sahib will explain what you dont think Sikhi is about. Yes you help them with being a good example but "hanging out" with them will only be like rubbing black ash on your face.

ਸਾਕਤ ਸੰਗੁ ਨ ਕੀਜਈ ਪਿਆਰੇ ਜੇ ਕਾ ਪਾਰਿ ਵਸਾਇ ॥

saakath sang n keejee piaarae jae kaa paar vasaae ||

As far as possible, do not associate with the faithless cynics, O Beloved.

ਜਿਸੁ ਮਿਲਿਐ ਹਰਿ ਵਿਸਰੈ ਪਿਆਰੇ ਸ+ ਮੁਹਿ ਕਾਲੈ ਉਠਿ ਜਾਇ ॥

jis miliai har visarai piaarae suo muhi kaalai outh jaae ||

Meeting with them, the Lord is forgotten, O Beloved, and you rise and depart with a blackened face.

ਕਾਮੁ ਕ੍ਰੋਧੁ ਸੰਗਤਿ ਦੁਰਜਨ ਕੀ ਤਾ ਤੇ ਅਹਿਨਿਸਿ ਭਾਗਉ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

kaam krodhh sangath dhurajan kee thaa thae ahinis bhaago ||1|| rehaao ||

Sexual desire, anger and the company of evil people - run away from them, day and night. ||1||Pause||

ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥

mehalaa 5 ||

ਕਬੀਰ ਚਾਵਲ ਕਾਰਣੇ ਤੁਖ ਕਉ ਮੁਹਲੀ ਲਾਇ ॥

kabeer chaaval kaaranae thukh ko muhalee laae ||

Kabeer, for the sake of the rice, the husks are beaten and threshed.

ਸੰਗਿ ਕੁਸੰਗੀ ਬੈਸਤੇ ਤਬ ਪੂਛੇ ਧਰਮ ਰਾਇ ॥੨॥

sang kusangee baisathae thab pooshhae dhharam raae ||2||

When one sits in the company of evil sangat, then he will be called to account by the Righteous Judge of Dharma. ||2||

(edited to add an uppercase "g" in Guru Granth Sahib)

anyone from here going??????????? Im going to go so see ya there if you go too

Singh# I think you need to learn more before you take Amrit, there are a lot of concepts of Khalsa that I dont think you know yet as you ask questions that are too simple to need being asked if you are really following Sikhi.

1)yes you must wash your kaysh every morning (you take a shower by wrapping your Kirpan around your turban, when you wash your hair you tie your keski around your waste and put your kangha in your keski)

2)No sicializing with people that are opposite of what you should be as they will influence you into bad habits or ridicule you beyond your beliefs etc. (my brother in law is a drunk that smokes and I dont even socialize with him because he only slurs blah blahs and or talks nasty words)

3)Amritvela is around 2am to about 5am (Naam japna and pannj bania are important in this time after you have taken full isnaan not the "fool Isnhanaan by not washing your hair etc"

4)Go to sleep(after Sohila paat) what ever time that you can get up at Amritvela Sahib.

Then there are aspects of joot, ardas, kakars, rehat etc that I dont think you are familiar enough with if you are asking the 4 questions you did.

Im not discouraging you to not Amrit Chauk, I am encouraging you to learn the basic qualities and understanding a Sikh must have before chauking Amrit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shMbaqRJ40U&feature=related

(according to hinduism you must keep hair???? brahmins "used" to keep hair and turban???????? Only fanatics(Sikhs) have changed the ways of modern hindus??????????

This guy is lying about Sikhi, he is a supposed "Sikh" teaching these videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67uq_lFXnR0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8rJZVMKTsk&feature=related "Christ Nanak Dev Ji"????????????????????/

Nijjaar1 is his account on youtube http://www.youtube.com/user/nijjhar1

Ive heard about this guy, about him being a liar and teaching Sikhs are a continuation of christianity.

This guy tries to use Sikhi to teach christianity, he uses the name Nanak to get you to retard your Sikhi towards christianity.

He does really good GARBAGE MANMAT PARCHAAR, which is a good way to confuse the already confused.

Sikhs bow b4 a granth covered in Cloth that they have never read

We can tell they arent ever at an Akhand Paat :lol:

When I got married I asked my non sikh christian family not to matha tek because I knew they would feel very uncomfortable and for them to be respectful was for them to not matha tek as this is not what they are supposed to do. I wanted them to feel comfortable and by fake bowing was not considered "respect". Ask anyone as veerJi said to take AMrit for respect etc and they will not. Asking them to wear a turban(in Darbar Sahib) in order to show respect is not correct/proper, it is different for them to wear rumalla and take off shoes though.

Im going to critically ask the threads question now in two ways 1) are you trying to be clever by taking both Sikh and a christians baptism so you dont feel scared into going to hell by the christians that blah blah to you????? 2) Does your friend thinks he is a sant(a real christian) for converting someone by trickery???? but I now ask this 3rd question Why is your account name john the baptist???? thats like me having my screen name mohamed and trying to sneak in my islamic blah blah while pretending to be a SIkh??????

If you "were Amritdhari Sikh" then why is your screen name a christian name????????????????????????? :6

guitar, little bit of sitar, drums, keys, some basic tabla, I really want to get a rabab and/or dilruba

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This just means instead of doing anything about it they are just going to "watch' it happen more and more.

Gobind Singh created a militant group for the protection of weak

Without getting into the full extent of this thread, Didnt GURU HARGOBIND SAHIB start miri-piri????????????????????????????????????? SO you "blame" Guru Gobind Singh but then what did Guru Hargobind start?????? Was Akal Takhat also "started by Guru Gobind Singh Sahib"?????????? :rolleyes:

In India, Guru Granth Sahib has already been taken out. People have stopped buying Guru Granth Sahib. How can your baba be bought for 1100 rupees? In USA, you can buy GGS for $200 dollars. You consider book a living, what if some of your wicked terrorists shoot your baba? But it won't matter because your bab grows old almost every other day, you burn it and a new one is born in a factory somewhere. The point is not to insult you.

What was you point then other than insulting Sikhs with your comment????? :rolleyes: You guys always contradict yourselves everyother sentence :lol:

The Gurubani needs to be compiled so when you insult by shallow thinking of calling Gubani anything other than Guru then you can never be called a Sikh.

This is hallmark of arrogance and this is what makes religion perish.

That I know of Sikhis masses have grown since Guru Gobind Singhs time even after facing slaughtering tyrants. Perish????? ravidasia hindus lie just about everyother word and thats a fact. Fact : ravidasia are hindus claiming to be Sikhs, if this was not so they wouldnt call themselves ravidasia.