tufaan_sikh

you see these cheap punjabi movies promoting hindu rituals? shame on u. <br /><br />What if the 5 pyare (Guru Ji's Saroop) tell you something different during Amrit Sanchar? e.g. meat.....<br /><br />What role did the Akaal Takht play during Guru Gobind Singh Ji's time, by the way?<br /><br /><br />First - You follow your panj before anything else, but acknowledge that the Panth has made a decision on the issue, which ideally the Panj should have followed-<br /><br />Secondly - What role did Darbar Sahib play during Guru Gobind Singh Ji's time? I've yet to find reference pointing towards him even visiting Darbar Sahib - that doesn't make Darbar Sahib "less holy" does it?<br /><br />As for the role of Akal Takhat in our ithhas - we already know that Guru Hargobind Sahib made it with a sepcific intention. We already know that whenever there were any questions or queriees everyone turned - yes tor Akal Takhat, whether it was the issue of Bandai or Tat Khalsa, or whether Dasam Bani should be in one granth of several granths. It was always here that the Sikhs went for guidence. (practicly) all morchas in our history have started from here, whether it was against, Abdali, The British, Nehru, Indira Gandhi or against the Indian govn as a whole. It's Akal Takhat we've turned to. Not Patna Sahib, or any other takhat. It is to Akal Takhat kings like Ranjit Singh have had to submit. But nowadays polygamists (Iqbal Singh) seem to think that they're above the Akal Takhat and their decisions <img src="http://www.sikhsangat.com/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" " border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> <br /><br />Inder Singh - to you follow Akal Takhat? Equal amount of shame on you <img src="http://www.sikhsangat.com/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" " border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> <br /><br /><br />When Guru sahib was Guru of sikhs he was everything.I hoope you get that,Mr V.<br /><br />Have you seen movie Nimmo casting Darshan Lal.In this punjabi movie he promotes Dasam Granth and Hem Kunt sahib.<br /><br /><br /><br />

latest edict from Sri Akal Takht Sahib clearly states that "no1 has right to create controversies about Panth parwanit baanis of Nitnem, Amrit Sanchar from Dasam Granth" it doesnt say you cant discuss rest of the DG . so no1 is defying anything.

veerji, ik Sapp (snake) nu Sapp kehna nindya nahi, Ik phul nu kanda kehna nindya hai, this nindya word is very often used to rubbish someone who speaks against these sects. according to Mahan Kosh by Bhai Kahn SIngh Nabha, Nindya means "gunaa vich dosh thapan da karam" and coming to HERITAGE concern of yours, so now those sanatani-agenda filled paintings (only around 100-150 years old) are our heritage now? do you even know the present building of Sri Harmandir Sahib is not in its original form, it has been attacked and demoslished a number of times. then why did taksal demolished WHOLE Sri Akal takht Sahib building in post 1984 time, atleast in kar seva of Baba Santa Singh the original bulding of Guru Sahib time was intact, they even demoslished the original structure and were going to demolish the one portion which in in Glass enlcosure now, directly under Parkash of Sahib Sri Guru Granth Sahib at Sri Akal Takht Sahib. And they also wanted to get Sri Akal takht Sahib get straight in face of Sri Harmandir Sahib (Sri akal Takht Sahib is not facing parallel to Sri harmandir Sahib, it angled a bit, then due to intervention of some gursikh they didnt demolish that small portion of old bricks and didnt straighten it. The building of Sri Akal Takht Sahib was made bY Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib ji & Baba Budha ji with their own hands, now tell me, which is real heritage? a painting just 100-150 years old or a structure of Sri Akal Takht Sahib made by Guru ji Himself? and about the so called wall which was built around chottay sahibzaday, your history knowledge seems to be on low side. a wall WAS bulit around chottay sahibzaday, but when it got high, the wall broke down and later "zihba" was done to chottay sahibzaday, no one was willing to do it, (its same as was done to daniel peral). so mughals had two brother in prison on death sentence, they finalised the deal with them that if they kill sahibzaday they will be pardoned and they agreed. and after tht incident the mughals ruled sirhind untill Baba Banda Singh Bahadur Came and demolished it. so you think mughals kept that wall intact as a sovnier? or even sikhs after tht didnt touch tht wall? if if we think wall was reason of shaheedi, wudnt sikhs hv demolished it cause it was the cause of shaheedi???? SGPC itself is very esteemed organisation but the irony is that its in control of kukarmis who doesnt follow sikhi tehmselves, but who is to be blamed? if these taksals/sampardas'/sant samaj/nanaksar/other deras hv done so much parchar and as per dhadrianwalay hv given Amrit di daat to lakhs of humans, they why cant they defeat these corrupt SGPC Members? or even the Akali dal MLAs????? and bring their own panthic leaders? why?

yea, i fully agree with blati, supporting Sri Akal Sahib, Sikh Rehit Maryada has now become personal agenda cause most of sikhs have been infected by personal maryadas of different sects, each claiming to be superior to others. nanaksar is one of many termite like sects, which flurishes upon sikh masses and have looks of sikhs but are eating sikhism from inside. i dont see gatray/kirpan with any so called brahmgyanis/sants of them, (even they wear microscopic kirpans) they r happy to tour foreign countries after removing them, sikh panth had two important principles DEGH-TEGH, they have demolishes both, their thaats dont have langar and they dont have teghs. sikhism doesnt give importance to any color, but they claim white to be sacred. they dont name schools/institutes after Guru Sahib, but their names start from ISHAR.

get yourself inducted in the committee, if not, literature is best way to protest, dont gather hoarding and shouting ppl outisde gurdwara, its will bring shame to community. distribute lietarture to sangat and let sangat force these committees to change as per gurmat sidhant.

its Iqbal Singh who started controversy at first it all started in january 2008, when panth should have united to celebrate 300th year of Gurta Gaddi diwas of Sahib Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, but how can anti-sikh elements digest it, so they had one puppet named iqbal singh to do their way and he shot off controversy of challenging Panth Parwanit Sikh Rehit Maryada and Nanakshahi Calendar. Why now? why not after october 2008? one can understand why.. why he deposited 90 lakhs in his own account? tht he got from a businessman from USA. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- earlier i was quite excited about jagriti yatra but what happened at Manji Sahib diwan hall, it clear now what they after.. when yatra came to amritsar, at Sri Harmandir Sahib complex it was to be parked near nishan sahib of Manji Sahib diwan hall (empty area opposit Sri harmandir Sahib), and pasricha asked SGPC to put cloth on Manji Sahib Golak and said they will place their own golak there. SGPC didnt make an issue out of it because otherwise sangat would ahve blamed sgpc for defaming yarta and creating controversies. other big issue was that the van of yatra which displays shastars and Sahib Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. they had parkash of Sahib Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji without anyone sitting in Tabya and without rumala sahibs, Singh Sahib from Sri Harmandir Sahib objected to that its against maryada to do parkash without anyone sitting in tabya and without Rumala sahib on. yatra has not even spent a penny on distributing any literature or anything else which presses on Supremacy of Sahib Sri guru Granth Sahib ji, they shd hv printed literaure in all languages regarding sikh principles and shd hv distributed it in areas which have respective language and mother tounge. all they did was collect crores and in evening get it to bank account. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-3 months ago when i visisted Sri Hazur Sahib, and got chance to talk to local singhs, they r so unhappy about this ranovation things. they told me that its like making galiara around sri harmandir sahib so that nothing like 84 cud happen (resistence from gurdwara premises due to bulidings close to gurdwara). they told me that some of local singhs or singhs from punjab who r on police hit list used to get shelter around the small-tight and caves type buldings/homes around. to flufh out them they demoslished those houses around the gurdwara so furiously.

PRESS STATEMENT DIASPORA SIKHS OUGHT TO BE WARY OF THE CULTURAL GENOCIDE BEING CARRIED OUT IN TAKHT HAZOOR SAHIB IN MAHARASHTRA & WATCH OUT FOR INDIAN AGENTS PROVOCATEURS TOURING NORTH AMERICA ---------- Last October historic Baradari & Ramgarhia Bunga built by Maharajah Ranjit Singh in Hazoor Sahib complex, was bulldozed at night after police resorted to firing on protesting Sikhs, under the direct supervision of the then Director General Police and concurrent Chairman of the Hazoor Sahib Gurudwara Board, one P. S. Pasricha, a ‘K.P.S. Gill’ clone ------- In October 2007 Tehleka magazine carried a catalogue raisonne` of Pasricha’s massive corruption and greed which expose` remains unchallenged to date Washington D.C. Saturday June 14, 2008. Maharashtras’s Shiv Sena-dominated ruling elite is once again hoping to do the impossible, in Nanded, by implementing Hindutva agenda which claims that egalitarian monotheistic Sikhism is a branch of polytheistic Hindutva. With the above nasty aim in mind the crafty rulers have, over the years, made the pliable ‘Sikh priests’, in the Takht Hazur Sahib, reject the Sikh Rehat Maryada and Nanakshai calendar. Now they have even challenged the supremacy of Akal Takht Sahib. These ‘government friendly Sikh priests’ make sure that a number of Brahmanical practices like ‘Havan’ (fire worship) and Aarti, etc., continue. Under cover of celebrating 300th anniversary of Guru Granth sahib Gurgaddi Divas the administrators of Takht Hazoor sahib are destroying irreplaceable historical Sikh heritage structures, in and around Takht Hazur sahib complex, in the name of modernization and beautification. Who, better to supervise these morally repugnant plans, for Hazur Sahib, than a corrupt, but loyal, ‘Sikh’ Director General of Maharashtra police, one Parvinder Singh Pasricha, (a ‘K.P.S. Gill’ clone) who was concurrently made the Chairman of the Hazoor Sahib Gurudwara Board as well? Pasricha had gained notoriety in October 2007, when the TEHELKA magazine, on October 20, 2007, carried a catalogue raisonne` of Pasricha’s massive corruption and greed. (> http://www.tehelka.com/story_main29.asp?fi...7Top_cop_CS.asp <) This comprehensive Tehelka expose` of Pasricha corruption remains unchallenged to date. On May 5, 2008, India’s prestigious OUTLOOK magazine reported that, “In the dead of the night, sometime in October last year, (2007) police surrounded the historic baradari at Hazoor Sahib in Nanded, Maharashtra, built during Maharaja Ranjit Singh's reign. Under the watchful eye of the police, the once-magnificent structure was bulldozed to the ground… What happened at Nanded in October and before that in January 2007, when another historic structure in the complex, the Ramgarhia Bunga, was similarly demolished, leading to rioting by local Sikhs and police firing.” How many Sikhs were murdered in the Police firing? DIASPORA SIKHS PLEASE WATCH OUT FOR THE K.P.S. GILL CLONE - P. S. Pasricha - and his money collecting campaign in North America. Contact: Dr. Amarjit Singh Khalistan Affairs Center 956-National Press Building, Washington D.C. 20045 USA Tel: 202-637-9210 E-Mail: kacwashdc@yahoo.com Date: June 14, 2008 Administrators destroying heritage structures: NRI Sanjay Bumbroo Tribune News Service Amritsar, June 15 Dr Amarjit Singh, a Washington-based Sikh leader, alleged that administrators of Takht Hazoor Sahib were destroying irreplaceable heritage structures in and around the holy shrine in the name of beautification. In an e-mail to The Tribune today, Dr Amarjit Singh alleged that the historical structures were being demolished by the administrators under the garb of celebrating Gurgaddi Divas, 300th anniversary of Guru Granth Sahib. He also alleged that P.S. Pasricha, recently appointed chairman of the managing committee of Takht Hazoor Sahib, was responsible for the demolition of the historic Baradari and Ramgarhia Bunga built by Maharaja Ranjit Singh. Many innocent Sikhs protesting against the demolition were killed in the police firing last year, he added. The leader said the administrators were implementing the agenda of the Maharashtra’s Shiv Sena-dominated ruling elite, who claimed that the egalitarian monotheistic Sikhism is a branch of polytheistic Hindutva. He said crafty rulers over the years had made the “pliable Sikh priests” to reject the Sikh Rehat Maryada and Nanakshahi calendar. He said these agents had now even challenged the supremacy of Akal Takht, the supreme temporal seat of the Sikhs. These “government-friendly Sikh priests” made sure that a number of Brahmanical practices like havans and aarti were continued, he added. He urged the Sikhs to be wary of the cultural genocide being carried out at Takht Hazoor Sahib in Maharashtra by agents of the government like Pasricha, who were also touring North America for making provocative speeches there.