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  1. The first thing a human consumes when it comes to this world is actually meat. Which is a mother's milk. :) Meat is basically any protein source derived from animals.

    Both are meat actually. BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT :) ...........

    in the past eggs which humans consumed were fertilized, so it was same as killing a living thing before it has a chance to get life.(just like the sin of abortion). Now, you have unfertilized eggs, but these are due to humans manipulating mother nature using science.

    Regarding eating man made unfertilized eggs. As yourself a simple question, what is the purpose God created that egg?

    Consumption or for baby chicks to be conceived from it?

    Its common sense, we humans wont consume our own ovum and sperm, then why do we want to consume the chickens ovum?

    The word "KUTHA" actually means Killed. Any meat obtained from KILLING other living things is forbidden in Gurmat. This shabad in SriGuru Granth Sahib ji further cements this asool of Gurmat:

    ਜੀਅ ਬਧਹੁ ਸੁ ਧਰਮੁ ਕਰਿ ਥਾਪਹੁ ਅਧਰਮੁ ਕਹਹੁ ਕਤ ਭਾਈ ॥

    ਆਪਸ ਕਉ ਮੁਨਿਵਰ ਕਰਿ ਥਾਪਹੁ ਕਾ ਕਉ ਕਹਹੁ ਕਸਾਈ ॥੨॥ ( ang 1103 )

    You kill living beings, and call it a righteous action. (those who justify meat eating of killed living beings are being criticized by Guru ji here )

    Tell me, brother, what would you call an unrighteous action?

    You call yourself the most excellent sage; then who would you call a butcher? ((2))

    But, some people in the panth have misinterpreted the word "KUTHA" due to their lack of understanding and ...wallllaaaaaaaa :rolleyes: the meat controversy in the Panth began! :sleep:

    Gursikhs are lacto-vegetarians. :) Those who dont eat meat of any kind and only consume milk and honey.

    Forgive me if I was wrong anywhere.......

  2. Kirtam Naams do have a value of but it is not equal IN ANY WAY to SatNaam. Gurmantar given by Guru Nanak Dev is srist in Kalyug. This is the currency of Kalyug. Kirtam Naam were currencies of the past.

    Whichever naam you are given by your panj piyareh or sant.

    to hold Panj Piarey and sant as equal is pure Manmat. Neither has any sant the right to DRIR Naam in any Sikh, this is the sole duty of Guru Roop Panj Piarey in the presence of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji.

  3. Keeping respect for Akal Takhts Jathedar aside....

    The disregard that they are in the Hazoree of Sri Guru Sahib ji and dare to misbehave in such a way is just distasteful.

    If someone does consider Sri Guru Granth Sahib is as 'Jagdhi Jyot' of Vaheguru, they would NEVER behave in such a way in the presence of Guru Ji.

    Sadly majority, just consider GUru ji as just as a book, that's why they DARE to behave in such a way.

    I have never seen kids fighting in darbar sahib and these people are adults! :rolleyes:

    They should die in shame!!!!!!!! <_< <_< <_<

  4. Please refer to 'Abrahamic Religions' in Wikipedia.....FYI. Judaism,Islam and Christanity are allinterlinked Faiths with Common Father which is much disputed nowdays.......and that is why there is a war between them.

    am very well informed about them.....

    The nonsense in your post which I criticized just defies logic. Neither can you prove any of them. Neither does it make sense. Neither does it have to do in anyway with mainstream gursikhi. Neither do I think you should MIS-inform users here of 'snatan mat' beliefs that you ardently adhere to.

    Other than that, I have nothing against you! :D

  5. Muslim and Christians Religions Both Originated from SHUKRCHARYA(Guru of Demons).Hindu Religion was Originated from Devtass.(That is Why Muslims and Hindus fight over Kashmir) bcz Kashmir is a Place of Rishi Kapalmuni(Father of Devataas and Demons-Ditti and Additi as their Mothers).

    Ultimately it s War between Gurmukhs and Manmukhs. and @ the end GURmukhs wins

    wonder what your source of "gyan" is...

    I am amazed..how at times you come up with such innovative non-sense. :rolleyes:

    did I say innovative nonsense? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

  6. -a muslim male has to do it.

    - the head of the lamb/goat/cow/chicken has to be facing in the direction of Kaaba in mecca.

    -KALMA is read during slaughtering the animal.

    -the throat is sliced to cause the blood to flow out of the animals body.

    - knife has to be very sharp as to not cause pain to the animal.(blunt knife is considered cruel :rolleyes:...sharp knife=less pain....supposedly :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: )

    -animals that die naturally are haram to eat.

    -halal is not required for seafood.

    -animals with fangs and claws cannot be consumed.(dogs, cats)

    -animal living in water and land cannot be eaten.

    seriously mate you can google lots of stuff around instead of starting a thread:P

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halal

  7. http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/7/28/nation/20100728161439&sec=nation

    NEW DELHI: The ruthless Khalistan Liberation Force (KLF), a Sikh separatist group, is suspected to have set up base outside Kuala Lumpur, with at least four of its militants in hiding in Malaysia.

    The KLF has set up a base in Malaysia to enable the four militants to canvass for support, claim the Punjab police.

    The police said they obtained the “vital clue” on the KLF base in Malaysia following the arrest of a suspected miltant at a guest-house in Patiala district (Punjab) last Monday.

    They said the 22-year-old man was linked to a series of bombings in the state, early this year, adding that he was suspected of planting bombs outside a LPG bottling plant in Nabha and the Halwara Air Force station in Punjab.

    Intelligence reports reveal he fled to Malaysia, where he sought shelter from another wanted KLF militant who had been residing in Seremban for some time.

    “The suspect was staying in Seremban for about a year. We are very much sure the KLF has set up a base in Malaysia because these boys (militants) are going there to get support.

    “The suspect had travelled to Thailand by road and later flew to Pakistan to get arms training. Definitely, they are using Malaysia to carry out their activities,” Patiala senior superintendent of police Ranbir Singh Khatra told Bernama when contacted by telephone today.

    Last Monday’s arrest, coupled with the discovery of 15kg RDX from another Sikh militant, of the Khalistan Zindabad Force on July 23, has left the police in a tizzy.

    Intelligence agencies now suspect Sikh terrorists based outside Punjab were preparing to create mayhem in Delhi before the Commonwealth Games later this October.

    A recent Punjab police intelligence advisory further justified their anxiety: “Certain militants sitting abroad are desperate to push four Sikh extremists into India to carry out nefarious activities.”

    The KLF movement was started by Sikh hardliners who staged an armed struggle against the Indian Government in the 1980s-1990s, seeking a separate Sikh homeland - to be called “Khalistan”.

    Although the group was crushed by Punjab police and later disintegrated, remnants of KLF members now operate from outside India, supported by foreign elements, to strike terror on Indian soil.

    “We suspect, at least four more militants are still hiding in Malaysia. We will get the help of the Indian federal government, Interpol and the Indian Embassy in Kuala Lumpur to arrest them,” said Khatra.

    At the peak of its reign, the violent separatist movement hijacked the Srinagar-Delhi bound Indian Airlines flight to Lahore, Pakistan, with 255 passengers on board in 1984.-Bernama

  8. France banned all religious symbols in schools, because their target was to curb Muslim 'radicalism' . Keep in mind that there are 5 million Muslims in France, which is the highest in the whole of Europe.

    Since 9/11 radical Islam is on the surge everywhere, plus Muslims use the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to justify their 'jihad.' This definitely got them worried. PLus, the Muslim population/immigrants are well known for causing riots/civil unrest in French suburbs & ghettos every year.

    But to appear "fair" in the eyes of the rest of the world, they included the ban on religious symbols on ALL other faiths. If they didn't take this step, they would have been accused of outright discrimination/prejudice towards Islam.

    Its common sense, just that people didn't ponder on why the French took this step.

    Muslims were their target, unfortunately other faiths had to be victimized to serve their greater interest.

    Just look at Britain, the muslims dare to propose their Shariah laws & they first arrived in British soil just 80 or so year ago. For a non-muslim to propose such a thing in a Muslim country would be unthinkable!

  9. Then only a few years ago he started to appear publicly in Punjab. Sharing political stage with Congress leaders. Then Sarna brought him to Delhi where he started the whole controversy on a big scale. Almost as if he was "planted" by someone to create confusion and rift in the Panth.

    He and his masters must be happy with his performance.

    about congress or being a GOI agent...that cannot be said or proven...I personally doubt it.. But the "Missionary factor" was definitely a majoorrrrrrr one. :excl: It has to be. :)

    Moving to Canada+contacts with missionaries there is definately a factor. Cause both are anti-deravaads to the max had man many more similar in views on various issues.

    it is no secret that these missionaries are very ਚਾਲਕ type of people.

    I have actually PERSONALLY heard him doing pro-dasam granth parchar. As I remember, he said Bani in SGGS ji should be called GURBANI and bani in Sri DG should be called BANI...any other bani not belonging to Guru ji should be called kachi bani. The reason is Gurgadhi was given to SGGS ji. Hence , its bani is GURbani & Sri DG is Guru kirt also.

    He further said that, Guru Gobind Singh never tried to equate his bani to SGGS ji's bani, thats the reason you will never see "Kahu Nanak, Nanak Kahai...or NANAK" at the end of any Bani is Sri Dasam Granth. Well it made sense back then to me :)

    ^having heard from his mouth as what I said above. I was quite surprised about his rants against on Sri DG.

    :6 :wacko: :6

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