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Came over this video:

This was after the sword fighting incident today outside Takht Sahib.

Maybe SatGuroo remove puppet Jathedaars!

It seems from the video Badal's Akali thugs within SGPC are attacking.......the most disturbing is this occured in the main darbar sahib of Takht Sahib in presence of Guru Sahib.

regardless this was uncalled for on the anniversary day. First in Patna early this year now in Akal Takht Sahib....sigh

On the 30th Anniversary of Operation Bluestar, Ensaaf presents an eyewitness account of the Indian Army attack on The Harmandir Sahib Complex in Amritsar, Punjab, from June 1 and June 6, 1984. This exclusive interview reveals how the Indian Army intentionally killed thousands of civilians and used excessive force during this assault.

This was immensely heart wrenching....

I think this is from 2006.

The act of praising others people or parbandaks (who call them over) is becoming so common among these Indian ragis, that precious time of SatSangat in the presence of SGGS Jee is wasted.

Such empty talk is of no spiritual value.....which might have been spent uttering/singing gurbani itself.

Please give yours reasons on increasing patitpuna in our younger generation?

3. The lines of being a Sikh and Punjabi have been blurred in the past 100+ years.

2. Gurmat Naam Abhiyaas Kamaaee has become rare to the extent of being unknown.

1. Falling out of love with Sikhi. (reasons are various..dont know where to even start)

What can 4 do?

Modi is in Power and Akalis are his pet dogs now....do you think anything will change for Punjab? If anything he will help Badals to consolidate power.

Btw....its good that Satanic Jaitley wont be winning from Amritsar. That scum distributed laddos when 84 attack on Darbar Sahib occurred.

till date AAP has won 4 seats in Punjab.....

Indians are genuinely delusional this time around...primarily driven by frustration with Congress on inflation issue. This elections was purely fought on the basis of propaganda. The paid indian media kept repeating the mantra "Modi Wave"...this man "IS THE SOLUTION" :strong: ... As we know, keep repeating a lie and everyone will starts believing in it. And I believe a big percentage of indian voters were swayed by this p-e-r-c-e-p-t-i-o-n. :rolleyes2:

The fact that Modi has taken support from corrupt politicians/parties to win is also something Indians are very forgiving about.

Indians will eventually fall out of love :drop: with this man as how they did with Vajpayee .

The disturbing thing about this man has his strong roots in RSS and...... what RSS tells him to do and he listens. :stupidme:

BJP or Congress...both are not friends of the Panth :nono:

panthic unity, u seem to have the diet regiment that one of those model walking on catwalk at the yearly Paris/Milan Fashion week. :biggrin2:

Is legume your only source of protein?

1.whatever Darshanu wants to do.....its N-O-T an amrit sanchar and will never be.

2.Since I know some missionaries myself.This idea of doing amirt sanchar without Dasam Bani has alway been there in the missionary circles. They just didn't have a clue :surrender: of "what 5 banis" missionaries wanted to read. Well now Darshanu has defined it for them now :toohappy: :toohappy: :toohappy:

3. seems like he want to revive the debates again ....I mean you need the fuel to start the fire right?

4. its seems like his attempt to show the middle finger to the panth by saying, "You have excomunicated me, what can you do now?" :strong:

The news above is inaccurate , read below:

No. It was malicious..read the full sakhi of ram rai.

I dont like your choice of words.

Baba Ram Rai's mistake wasnt malicious...it was to APPEASE Aurangzeb ...

Majithia did the same....to APPEASE his political masters.

He puts jaitleys name into gurbani and you call it honest mistake?

if anyone here take you seriously they need to evaluate on 'why do I take n30 seriously'.

Baba Raam Rai was forgiven by Guru Gobind Singh jee....imagine the long period he was boycotted by Sikhs.

but Majithia gets his way in just 24 hours.

We need to reflect how our takhts function.

Giani Gurbachan Singh is unlikely to do anything.....

By the way, Badals were the ones who always supported Dasam Bani as opposed to Sarna, right?

That was a method to consolidate support from Dhumma Taksal ,Sant Samaj and derawaads....and perhaps to lure other Panthic organization for support.

He doesnt care about Gurbani.

i dont understand this why do we even try to think that somebody wont be in a high spiritual state how do we know what was the avastha of such singhs who revolved around guru sahiban more over even if somebody wasnt in that high spiritual state BUT SUTGURU MERA POORA why would they need sukha atleast there were so many medicines then hakeems in every nukad if u state that

cool down ...you dont need to lash on an assumption you know :biggrin2: ...gursikh with high spiritual states tend to be above pain...thats what I meant ...and to be jot vigaasi...is never an easy thing and not for all.

hakeems mainly used medicine derived from nature & plants...hence, cannabis must have been known to be and also in usage.

Regardless, canabis usage is kurehit. period.

I am just assuming here. Maybe it was used as a medicine for those injured in war back in those day(we didnt have effective pain killers back then). Not all Gursikhs fighting in war had been people very high spiritual state to withstand pain. Am assuming maybe thats how it was introduced.

Of-course now its mostly ABUSED by we all know who without any spiritual basis :biggrin2:

why do people even entertain his claims.....i doubt they hardly hold any ground....

Trust me guys, I am no chardi-kalah and have follow very little rehat compares to other chardi-kalah gurmukhs, but with little expereince i have in meditation with gurbani..i can tell you there is definitely ultimate gurmat absolute reality truth existence here and now waiting for each one of us to experience, once even expereince an drizzle of it, one automatically gets drawn towards higher reality than these arguments, one automatically drawns to it and transcendent it...!!

wow :excited:

no experience is little experience :cool2: . Care to share SANT JEE?

dont :nono: be kanjuss :tease:

What did I do/say? :s

Not you at all :biggrin2:

And you are basing that assumption on what? One, a single, academic's summary which might or might not be evidentially authentic.

Does this kirt exist in puratan(period:1690-1760) Shree Dasam Granth Saroops? or only a few selected ones written after that puratan period?

Phokat Kabit is claimed as bani when it was not even found in Puratan saroops for example.

On facebook some so called sikhs are celebrating his death..absolutely disgusting. Dya-compassion, daily prayer- sarbat da bhalla (well being of all humanity), sam dristhi (one vision of humanity as God light), nirbhauo(love no fear) nirvair(no animosity/hatred) actual nature of sikh -whole foundation of sikhi seems to be lost in new sikh world order...may be these people with sub human mindset who celebrate death of another being ( who does not conform to their ideology) needs to learn how to be human first then sikh.

Perhaps practise what you preach as a start?

having observed you for the last 10 years on this forum, you contradict your every word above.