Bhujang

A well written article, truth. All the people who wanted to finish the Sikhs off, were defeated of their purpose, because they wanted to finish them physically. Now they are trying to finish Sikhs ideologically and having the looks like Sikhs. Most of the Jathedars, SGPC, DSGMC, Babas are the few examples of the pseudo-Sikhs.

Veerji I can understand ur problem. But my sincere advise is, not to be so rigid that it hinders or creates friction in family. One has to wear the according to situation. If you r Amritdhari, your parents are not saying to lay off ur kakkars, which shouldn't be done at all, but regarding Dumalla or Turban, one can change the style. There is no such compulsion that one has to wear only Dumalla wit or without shastars. - If u r going to Gurudwara Sahib, Kirtan Samagam, ur Gursikh friends, then have Dumalla - If u r going to Office, if Dumalla is ok, tie it, or have other type of Turban - If you go to play any kind of sports, you wear the kind of uniform you should be, even patka/keski can also be tied - If u r going to Fitness centre/Gym, u wear attire accordingly that doesn't means you are doing something against sikhi. Don't compromise on Kakkars but Turban can have any style. Sikhi is not rigid, act according to situation without compromising on Gursikhi values. Hope this helps. Rab Rakha

Plz visit the following link, how the India media / soap operas and diminishing & and showing dis-respect to Sikhism. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oFUAkhw_Gfo This clip is from "Kis Desh Mein Hai Mera Dil", in which a girl is shown wearing Kirpan, who has a very negative character in the serial. Whose responsibility is to stop these kind of anti-Sikh propaganda?

It is sad to hear about this. First of all SGGS is not considered as a book, as few of the people might think. It is the only in the world which has Guruship, no other granth has this authority. Other Holy books as Quran, Bible, Ramayan are written by their own Masters, those are written by people who came afterwards, but SGGS is written by Guru Sahibs. What other people do, we do not have to follow. So, we have to reach the libraries to tell them that SGGS has to be given separate room or so, in which there should be SGGS (might be in different languages), so that who so ever wants to read it, come inside by washing hands, shoes off, cover head and read it. Whats the big deal in that, they have so many rooms alloted for different things, why not for religious study? Or, SGGS come in CD/DVD, people can read from there also. On Internet it is available. Its not rigidity, some might think. Don't think that if other Holy books are readily available here and there, people have become more religious, NO. Keep aside India, this western world has all the access to technoloigy, has it changed? NO. Christians, Muslims, Hindus and others have the same problem, as we have. People don't have time to read any of the Holy scriptures, otherwise whole world would have been changed.

We are here to discuss, learning from each other, if we get something out of it, is worthful. Thanx.

Larrivaarsaroopisconsideredtobebetterthanpaddchedasitsavedsggsfromthedistortionw hichmighthavebeendoneifitwasnottherebutfortheeasinessofsikhsitwasdonebyscholarsot hewisepeoplelikeuscouldnotevendopathwithooutgranthisorpeoplewhodosanthiyacoztheyw antedthatonlypeopleshouldcometothemandtheycanmanipulatewhatevertheywant plz read the above sentence first in one go, the read the below. Larrivaar saroop is considered to be better than padd ched as it saved SGGS from the distortion which might have been done if it was not there. But for the easiness of sikhs it was done by scholars othewise people like us could not even do path withoout granthis or people who do santhiya coz they wanted that only people should come to them and they can manipulate whatever they want. Its nothing wrong with padd chhed, coz Gurbani's main motive is to give us understanding of truth and truthful living, which can be obtained from reading Gurbani and then act as Gurbani says. While reading / uterring gurbani from larrivaar saroop we do padd chhed and read or do we read continously, without making any sense. Having knowledge of reading larrivaar is very good, but if we practice first on padd chhedd would be better. Regarding the quotes: Laakh karroree bandh na parey (in SGPC form) Har ka naam japat nistaray means: Acquiring hundreds of thousands and millions, your desires shall not be contained. Chanting the Name of the Lord, you shall find release. Laakh karroree bandhan parey (by Taksal and Nanaksar) Har ka naam japat nistaray means: Acquiring hundreds of thousands and millions, your desires shall be contained. Chanting the Name of the Lord, you shall find release. "Laakh karroree bandh na parey (in SGPC form)" makes sense than the "Laakh karroree bandhan parey (by Taksal and Nanaksar)" Bhul chuk muaff pm me ur email addy and ill mail Guru Ji to you Guru Fateh Can u plz send me too, larrivaar saroop of SGGS. I will appreciate ur help. My email id is chakdephatte@ymail.com . Thanks

WJKK WJKF Word "Simran" is derived from Smaran / Smriti which means mind, ur thoughts, yaad karna. This is a mental state. When one is doing all the work according to Almigty's wish is Simran. When God is established in ones mind, which means when one does all the work according to God's wish, do all good deeds, is Simran. As Guru Arjan Dev Ji says (page 101, para 12) Uthat baithat sovat jaagat, har dhiaye sagal avarda jiyo. While standing and sitting, while sleeping and while awake, meditate on the Lord, all your life. ||1|| and many more examples one can find in SGGS, but no where u wiil find any methods of doing Simran. None of the Guruji said that u do in such manner or the other. Meditation is different and Simran is different. Meditation has its own value, but Simran is altogether different. Nowadays people have intermingled these both. No time is specified to do simran, even the Amritvela concept is misguided now. Waking up early in the morning is good for health, one can do paath or meditation, but this is not specified that one has to do only at this time only. As Guru Nanak says Amritvela sach nau vadiayee vichar When the vichar of True name is done, then is the Amritvela. Guru Amardass ji says velâ vakẖaṯ sabẖ suhâiâ, Jiṯ sacẖâ mere man bẖâiâ. That time, that moment is totally beautiful, when the True One becomes pleasing to my mind. Guru Ramdass ji says Sâ velâ so mûrat sâ garhiî so muhat safal hai merî jindariye jit har merâ chit âvai râm. That time, that moment, that instant, that second is so fruitful, O my soul, when my Lord comes into my mind.