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birr rass, Try this link

http://gurfateh.net/Literature/index.php?q...ngh-BaniUcharan

I agree with you so much.. These days people have khalsa in their names. I think the same as you did, leave the khalsa to the brahmgiani. They are ones who are Khalsa.

Sikh is first step.. and everyone in this world is a sikh, we are all learners, and Guru ji is our teacher.. its just that the world is not aware of that there is acatually a religion.

So I wouldnt call this religion Khalsa, its become such a common word people use it all the time, without knowing its true depth.

jeez, will our people ever let us accomplsih anything?  Probably not.

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What do you want to accomplish??

Dont you see the state of affairs as said by Sewak Singh? People like you sitting here in the west dont even have a clue of whats currently going on , and all you say is KHALISTAN KHALISTAN..

another note I noticed so some Gurudwara's here having big signs of KHALISTAN ZINDABAD in Gurudwaras.. whats the point?

If you really want to support the fight, dont call for a separate state.. but go there and defend and fight.. dont run away for a separate nation.. where corrupt politicians can torture the sikh community

jesus christ said the same things.. but it all got washed away by power hungry men...

all religions in essence are one..

Time is still bad and if it is not then it may get bad or even worse. Guru Ji gave us Kirpan not for limited period of time. Carrying or keeping a gun is legal in western countries so it is not wrong in any way. Keeping arms for self-defense and to fight for truth is always justified in Sikhi no matter what.

It is legal in US to carry guns, but look our own sikh taxi drivers got killed because of

hate-crimes. Do you want it to be legal?

You dont need guns to carry with you in streets, superstores, etc. If you carry guns around, you will be a threat to society, people will not want you in that country.

This picture was posted before a while ago and everyone had a fit.

This picture is being taken out of context. This picture is from the 1980s maybe early 90s when the struggle in punjab was at its height. The kid's parents or family most likely was tortured and killed by punjab police or security forces. The picture represents the spirit of sikhi which is to fight oppression. For all the apalled sikhs, please read up on the events of those days before displaying your ignorance.

Yes and todays sikh kids will never have guns with them.

And about columbine, those were kids who went on a rampage cause some athletes in their school(jocks) thought they were dorks and nerds so they took it out on their fellow schoolmates, this picture is about sikhs fighting for their dignity, so keep your ignorant western examples out of it, compare apples to apples not apples to plums.

Not about apples or plums, about kids with guns. Its not a good sight, where u can say aw^50

If you understand Miri Piri then understand that there CANNOT be two governments working in one country. Punjab belongs to Sikhs therefore only Sikhs must rule it.

It worked during the time of Guru Nanak Dev ji. Let me remind India is a country of diverse religions. The primer minister is a SIKH, they didnt say NO, they gave respect to him. Sikhs listen to the Akal Takht. You talk about khalistan rule? what type of rule, a rule in whcih a simple issue of women's seva cannot be solved?

Purpose of Khalistan is not to end corruption though the government will work on it but tell me which country was established just to end corruption? there are more than 200 different countries in the world does it mean they all hate each other? If no then how would Khalistan stop you or anyone else from loving humanity?

OK, if the purpose is not end corruption in SIKH community, THEN WHY DO U EVEN WANT KHALISTAN?

**So we should get rid of the judicial system and abolish all the courts. Let's release all the criminals and love them which will ensure them that nothing will stop them while carrying criminal activities.** and no one should've stopped Hitler. right? Loving someone based on humanity is different than loving someone for his/her actions.

Why are you presuming ? Also, I never said I love criminals for their actions. Again you are presuming.

We are still sikh brothers. If there is some oppression, I will fight it with you together. I understand the concept of miri-piri. But please understand I dont support Khalistan. They are **TWO** different things, If you look closely. The corruption is not going to end if we get a khalistan. In the end all that is going to matter is how much love you have for everyone.

It is very disgracing to the sikh community, due to the activities of few sikhs, we are termed extremists/terrorists. Im not saying its only the few sikhs, ofcourse the GOI is involved too.

Guru ji kirpa karay

Its not cute, Its horrible.. If Khalistanis think its cute, then you are the people we need to fight. Sikhism is not a terroist organisation.

Its not Al Qaeda, where u train kids to fight the holy war.

I fight oppression against sikhs, but i dont support this banner of Khalistan, where u give ur kids guns.

totally agree.. i wish these khalistanis understand.

SSM: the guilty are going to die, they are not going to live forever. When they die they will be judged.

This place where we have been born, it teaches us to love, not to kill and take revenge. This is life's ultimate lesson to learn. Unconditional love, and accept the hukam of his command whatever has happened has happened, The sikhs already killed Indira Gandhi, the leader so to say? Arent you happy enough? or you want more blood, because they killed us back?

Khalistanis are not the driving force that carries out Guru ji's hukam. What will be done will be done. There is no need for violence. Why do you think Sant Jarnail Singh ji was martyred? and that too on the guru ji's gurpurab, the birthday of Guru Arjan Dev ji. Why ? Sikhism is not a terroist organisation. There was corruption even much much before 1984. Why has all these continued ? ?

Does history ever look back and ask these questions ? Its important to fix it.

IF you love someone, will they kill you ?

Didnt Guru ji say "Only those who have loved, will find God"

Bhai Kanhaiya Singh Ji, when he was giving water to the dying muslim soldiers on the battlefield was blessed by Guru Gobind Singh Ji.

I agree..

Violence will bring violence, If we think like that lets kill all the hindus, because their fathers or grandfathers killed our grandfathers, fathers, mothers.

Why are we attacking a special sect of people. The mistake is not in the hindus. Not every hindu is the way you categorise them.

fight oppression. But dont fight innocent people. There were hindus supporting the sikhs also.

The biggest problem is the ego, the root of everything. Before thinking of khalistan, why not be proper sikhs first!!

yes.. another similar line.... If you dont see God in all , then you dont see God at all..

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gur fateh penji, here are some links on sikhnet

http://www.sikhnet.com/sikhnet/music.nsf/S...797611!Open

Bhai Jagjit Singh Komal

http://www.sikhnet.com/sikhnet/music.nsf/S...796cb3!Open

Bhai Harbans Singh

http://www.sikhnet.com/sikhnet/music.nsf/S...793721!Open

Bhai Avtar Singh - wow..

http://www.sikhnet.com/sikhnet/music.nsf/S...602331!Open

Bhai Amrik Singh Zakhmi

http://www.sikhnet.com/sikhnet/music.nsf/S...7c9554!Open

Bhai Nirmal Singh

jw kw mIqu swjnu hY smIAw ]

jaa kaa meet saajan hai samee-aa.

Those who have the Lord as their Friend and Companion

iqsu jn kau khu kw kI kmIAw ]1]

tis jan ka-o kaho kaa kee kamee-aa. ||1||

- tell me, what else do they need? ||1||

jw kI pRIiq goibMd isau lwgI ]

jaa kee pareet gobind si-o laagee.

Those who are in love with the Lord of the Universe

dUKu drdu BRmu qw kw BwgI ]1] rhwau ]

dookh darad bharam taa kaa bhaagee. ||1|| rahaa-o.

- pain, suffering and doubt run away from them. ||1||Pause||

jw kau rsu hir rsu hY AwieE ]

jaa ka-o ras har ras hai aa-i-o.

Those who have enjoyed the flavor of the Lord's sublime essence

so An rs nwhI lptwieE ]2]

so an ras naahee laptaa-i-o. ||2||

are not attracted to any other pleasures. ||2||

jw kw kihAw drgh clY ]

jaa kaa kahi-aa dargeh chalai.

Those whose speech is accepted in the Court of the Lord

so iks kau ndir lY AwvY qlY ]3]

so kis ka-o nadar lai aavai talai. ||3||

- what do they care about anything else? ||3||

jw kw sBu ikCu qw kw hoie ]

jaa kaa sabh kichh taa kaa ho-ay.

Those who belong to the One, unto whom all things belong

nwnk qw kau sdw suKu hoie ]4]33]102]

naanak taa ka-o sadaa sukh ho-ay. ||4||33||102||

- O Nanak, they find a lasting peace. ||4||33||102||

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Here is the link to the shabad audio

http://www.sikhnet.com/sikhnet/music.nsf/S...7a0661!Open

one of my favs )

I cannot thank you enough for sharing....... i have been looking for the shabad for a long time

thank you !!

love love love infinite all over !!!!!

the old hub is down.

gurfateh.net

gursevahub.com

gurseva.no-ip.org/com

this hub is down.. we are thinking of bringing this back up. but it mite not be soon.

you can just join this new hub gurseva.mine.nu:80. [gur]sever pyara is on there, with 100 gb of sikhi stuff for you to download.

Anyway.. the old hub is seeming dead for now.

I have graduated from university, but still it was a good read. You are doing good work of inspiring young youth.

Seeing your unbreakable faith in guru ji, I suggest you make frinds with even the people who go clubbing and bring them to the correct path. After all, it is gurmukhs that is gonna help them out. If noone shows them the path, then they wont know. And I feel it will help them.

why do we give power to such people in the first place??????????????

who are these five singhs? people in punjab sleeping????

just imagine what will happen if we ever get khalistan, there will more of these people and the corruption they will make.

congratulations sis, Im happy for you you have come back to sikhi, and that your problems are solved

all the best

"the only true companion is he who is never separated from you"

nice... through others guru ji takes care of us... but we tend to see them as just another person.. but in reality no matter what is happening to us.. however insignificant it is guru ji doing it.

as in jap ji it says, So very many lessons to be learnt....

I would see this as two conditions for a gursikh..

There is one person who cuts/trims hair out of love for maya, to look more appealing, more fashionable. etc

another gursikh doesnt cut hair for love of maya, or to fit into society. but keeps hair for love of guru ji, as guru ji has kept me so will I remain. If this person is ever going to trim or get treatment it is not going to be love for maya. It is going to be for disease as heera and some other people said.

personally i have seen high spirited sikhs, who have done because of a disease or other issues, but not for maya. And again this is a personal issue... use your common sense and based on your love of guru ji

thank you amrit for posting the word of the guru everyday :wub: