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  1. Even if someone is going through what you are how is that relevant to you or going to support you? You are here because you want help and I don't second that. I want to help but without presenting yourself or providing details i cant or nobody can. Life is full of ups and downs one wouldn't know how to judge a good experience without suffering a bad one. Life is what you make it. You ask anybody and they'll tell you 'ive got the worst family' or 'I'm always in arrears' or 'I'm financially inept' - something like that, everybody suffers with burden but its how you deal with it paji. Having the right support, links, friends helps.

  2. What the hell is going on with you? This life given to you, though short, is blessed, has many opportunities and failings of course. It's like you're threatening to change your religion, why? Go ahead and do it - who u waiting for, what do you want someone to give you the go ahead? Pm me

  3. From what you've told me and the way in which u talk its as if you've given up. Past experiences provide references for us and for many, they live their life living in the past or regret every day failing to move forward. It sounds like u don't want to take medication does this u mean u are willing to try/exp other avenues? PM me Cheers

  4. Something is getting you down. Maybe this thing has existed a long time and become rooted or it could be something totally new. With anything and everything it has a started for a reason. Everything happens for a reason.

    It exists totally your mind. I'm guessing you dwell on things too much? Inner strength beings from within and that makes the outside tough. Things arent always what they seem..


    Fellow brethren,

    A friend who was bought up sikh by his parents has recently confessed his desire to become muslim. He's gone as far as fasting, studying arabic, conforming to prayers, and stunningly bringing up both his offspring against sikhi and instead, full of islamic values.

    I don't agree with his omission but can't seem to blame him, our fathers, forefathers never adopted the sikh gown or adhered it to their children so how was he gonna be any different? I rather accept how he said 'I was told to go to the gurdwara, bow, have prasaad and then go; I was never told what was being said nor could I understand it' at times he said 'blokes can talk in the prayer room as they please, often smelling of booze and cigarettes'-is this God's he said to me?

    His quest with Islam is begining fruition, what I wanted to ask the sangat was that can I do anything, persuade, inform, educate or at least show this person the biggest regret he could be making....what would you do?

    Thoughts please....

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  6. Hi all,

    I'm far from a person who wants to create conflict but you can't hide the recent upsurge/media coverage of muslim extremists wanting to commit acts of senseless murder. Every day this week there have been articles in the news about how a group of islamic men, all bearded, wanted to blow up locations across the UK and for them, to become martyrs. Are 'they' seriously hoping for a life in paradise?

    is it me or have we not seen one muslim come forward to condemn these terror acts? I mean maybe a celebrity of some sort or a leading figure; look at Dr Naik-an advocate of these terror acts; its as if they almost want to believe its acceptable because 'they' believe the amercian and british forces are doing the same in iraq/afganistan.

    How can the quran be so justified in killing innocents-I just don't get it. Sikhi is so far from that or does it come down to interpretation? Could you ever see sikh bombers doing this? Is it pure brain washing, is there a hidden message? I know the quran has chapters which talk of violence but this is cmoing to a joke. If I'm asian and thinking of this what are other communities thinking? I might wrong here doesn't sikhi profess to this birth being a gift where man must pay pennance to get out of the 8.4 million lives? Thoughts please sangat

  7. This trend if not stopped will get worse and worse, seriously what alternatives are there, whos's to blame?

    Alarming rise in HIV among drug addicts
    Against the national average of 10% among injectable drug users, the count stands much high at 40% in Amritsar and 27% in Tarn Taran
    Perneet Singh
    Tribune News Service


    (Above) the locked gate of the de-addiction centre at Kairon village in Tarn Taran district and (Below) drug wrappers and injections lie strewn at a deserted building next to the Civil Hospital. Photos: Vishal Kumar

    Tarn Taran, January 7
    The rampant drug addiction among youths in Punjab is putting them at the risk of bigger danger — HIV infection. The HIV prevalence among injectable drug users (IDUs) is 27 per cent in Tarn Taran and 40 per cent in Amritsar, much above the national average of 10 per cent.

    The Opiod Substitution Therapy (OST) Centre here has over 1,000 registered male patients, of whom 180 have been regularly visiting the centre to avail the treatment. Amritsar too has an OST Centre with 420 men listed with it; 90 have been visiting regularly for treatment. Confirming the figures, the centre’s nodal officer, Dr Rana Ranbir Singh, said most alarming was the fact that HIV prevalence had far exceeded the national average in these border areas.

    OST centres are an initiative of the National Aids Control Organisation, which provides free medicines for the treatment of IDUs.

    Sources said one of the main reasons behind the increasing number of IDUs was that addicts find injecting drugs cost-effective. By injecting drugs, primarily heroin, into their veins, they get a high with a small quantity of the drug. On the other hand, addicts end up wasting a part of the heroin if they sniff it, said sources.

    Apart from heroin, the border belt youth are getting hooked on to smack and pharmaceutical drugs like morphine. The addicts mostly are in the 20-40 age group, but they cut across different sections of the society. Another cause for concern was the easy availability of drugs, which was corroborated by various individuals. An addict from Sakhyawali village said he never faced any problem in getting his daily dose. He said most of those dealing in the drug trade themselves were addicts.

    A physician from Guru Ka Khu village said drug peddlers and addicts could easily be spotted on the streets carrying out their deals in a secretive manner. “Some people even run the drug racket from their houses,” he said.

    Among the areas where drug addiction is on the rise in Tarn Taran are Patti, Khemkaran, Valtoha and Khalra, besides villages like Kazikot, Valipur, Bugga, Palsora, Fatehchak and Muradpur.

    De-addiction facilities ill-equipped

    Though drug addiction is rising in the border belt, de-addiction facilities seem to be unmatchable. A couple of months back, only the district headquarters had de-addiction and OST centres in its civil hospital. The de-addiction centre in Patti got functional two months ago, but it is yet to start proper medication of addicts. A de-addiction centre located at Kairon village near Patti has been lying shut for the past sometime while the infrastructure inside it is rotting. The authorities have neither shifted its furniture to a hospital nor put the building to an alternative use. This, despite the fact that addicts from Patti had been visiting Tarn Taran for treatment in the past. Dr Rana, also the in-charge of the Patti centre, said the town will soon have its own OST centre and Tarn Taran will become the first district in the country to have two OST centres.

    Worst-hit areas in Tarn Taran

    Patti, Khemkaran, Valtoha and Khalra and villages like Kazikot, Valipur, Bugga, Palsora, Fatehchak and Muradpur.

    Addicts using deserted buildings

    Drug addicts have been exploiting the premises of government hospitals and de-addiction centres to have their daily dose of drugs. The Tribune team spotted the leftovers of paper used to sniff drugs at a deserted building of the Panchayati Raj Department located on the premises of the Tarn Taran Civil Hospital, besides a room inside the de-addiction centre building in Patti. Superintendent of Police (detective) Harvinder Singh said he would be issuing orders to all station house officers to keep an eye on deserted buildings in the district.

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    What does this mean to you. should it be raised as it did at the times of Sant Jarnail Singh Ji Bhindrawale

    The Shiromani Akali Dal shall ever strive to achieve the following aims:

    1. Propagation of Sikhism, its ethical values and code of conduct to combat atheism.

    2. Preservation and keeping alive the concept of distinct and sovereign identity of the Panth and building up of appropriate condition in which the national sentiments and aspirations of the Sikh Panth will find full expression, satisfaction and facilities for growth.

    3. Eradication of poverty and starvation through increased production and more equitable distribution of wealth and also the establishment of a just social order sans exploitation of any kind.

    4. Vacation of discrimination on the basis of caste, creed or any other ground in keeping with basic principles of Sikhism.

    5. Removal of disease and ill health, checking the use of intoxicants and provision of full facilities for the growth of physical well-being so as to prepare and enthuse the Sikh Nation for the national defense. For the achievement of the aforesaid purposes, the Shiromani Akali Dal owned it as its primary duty to inculcate among the Sikh religious fervour and a sense of pride in their great socio-spiritual heritage through the following measures:

    (a). Reiteration of the concept of unity of God, meditation on His Name, recitation of gurbani, inculcation of faith in the Holy Sikh Gurus as well as in Guru Granth Sahib Ji and other appropriate measures for such a purpose.

    (b). Grooming at the Sikh Missionary College the Sikh youth with inherent potential to become accomplished preachers, ragis, dhadis and poets so that the propagation of Sikhism, its tenets and traditions and its basic religious values could be taken up more effectively and vigorously.

    ©. Baptizing the Sikhs on a mass scale with particular emphasis on schools and colleges wherein the teachers as well as the taught shall be enthused through regular study circles.

    (d). Revival of the religious institution of dasvandh among the Sikhs.

    (e). Generating a feeling of respect for Sikh intellectuals including writers and preachers, who also would be enthused to improve upon their accomplishments.

    (f). Streamlining the administration of the gurdwaras by giving better training to their workers. Appropriate steps would also be taken to maintain gurdwara building in proper condition. The representatives of the party in the Shiromani Gurdwara Prabandhak Committee would be directed to pull their weight towards these ends.

    (g). Making suitable arrangements for error free publications of gurbani, promoting research in the ancient and modern Sikh history, translating holy gurbani into other languages and producing first-rate literature on Sikhism.

    (h). Taking appropriate measures for the enactment of an All India Gurdwaras Act with a view to improving the administration of the gurdwaras throughout the country and to reintegrate the traditional preaching sects of Sikhism like Udasis and Nirmalas, without in any way encroaching upon the properties of their maths.

    (i). Taking necessary steps to bring the Sikh gurdwaras all over the world under a single system of administration with a view to running them according to the basic Sikh forms and to pool their resources for the propagation of Sikhism on a wider and more impressive scale.

    (j). Striving to free access to all those holy Sikh shrines, including Nanakana Sahib, form which the Sikh Panth has been separated, for their pilgrimage and proper upkeep.

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  9. Sangat jeo,

    I'm truly ashamed to admit it, this is beyond what I can type-how could it get that far... but here goes, I've jst come back from a party and you know what, the church next door was full of punjabi's, i could even see turbanned indians alongside many, many indian women. It was 9.0pm. It seemed full from what I could see. I've never seen this many people at a place of worship at this time! I stood there for a mere 3 minutes wondering why, before I was told to get to my destination.

    I'm not against anyone, not anyone who preaches God, end of the day-he's our saviour-whatever faith you look at. But I'm a sikh. I'm sure these people are from India-I'm shocked, they've travelled 6,000 miles to realise their 'faith' doesn't fulfill them. From my past research it appears as if they are, the christians that is, are actively seeking other breathren to join their faith. The women are drawn because I sense they can belong to something. Maybe they didn't understand sikhi-I dont know-but I'm scared as hell!

    1. What led them this way?

    2. Were they dumbfounded, were they converted?

    3. Were they just fed up?


    I know many punjabi churches now exist in places like Gurdaspur, Canada, UK, America, etc...

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    Hopefully the tide is now turning and our heroics are starting to pay off..but its still early days, the mission is at the beginning and we as 'a community' must stand until we get the justice and bring to book the perpetrators who have unleashed and belittled our community.

    We must carry-on and strive to uphold the name of our brothers and sisters who have systematically been killed in the name of our religion...

    Can someone please tell me if we could find out how many nawjawan/brothers/sisters were being killed by fake encounters, killed in ambush-ordered to be killed by KP GILL, SAJJAN, TITYLER and the HINDUSTAN government?

    Could we go to each household in places like Gurdaspur, Amritsar, etc and find out from families if they have lost anybody...has this already been done?

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  11. Sangat ji,

    Whilst the idea of having projector screens during bhog time has helped increase understanding in Gurdwara around the UK, not entirely what other countries do, I think we should go one step further and do this throughout whole sri akhand path sahib.

    I'm sure the lack of understanding including my own has not entirely pushed people away but left them deviod of the precious teachings and understanding out Guru can give. Whilst many have this hunger or yearning for spiritual awakening they tend to find it on another path or elsewhere in another faith they can understand or relate to. We need guidance/help in knowing what our Guru is saying..

    Is their technology, CD's out there for this...

    your opinions please..............

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  12. Why did it have to come to this? Our brother, a son-why did he deserve this, does your blood boil? Do you feel like doing something...

    Amritsar, Punjab - Bhai Kulwant Singh, an inmate at Central Amritsar Jail, passed away today after sustaining severe burns caused by a suspicious fire in his jail cell. He was admitted to Guru Nanak Dev Hospital on Saturday in critical condition after suffering 50% burn injuries and major damage to his vital organs.

    Although no details regarding the cause of the fire have been released as authorities and fellow inmates refuse to comment, the jail superintendent, Rashpal Singh, has tried to suggest that the incident was the result of an attempted suicide.

    This is not the first time Kulwant Singh has been admitted to the hospital since his incarceration began in July of 2010. He was previously admitted to the same hospital with life threatening injuries as a result of police torture in August of the same year. When he was brought to the hospital the first time, Dr. Saurabh Dhanda said “there were electric shock injuries on his ears and private parts. Kulwant’s stomach also had injuries owing to severe beating with batons.”

    Kulwant Singh was one of the individuals linked with Pal Singh of France and picked up by police in a spate of arrests made in the summer of 2010. Pal Singh was picked up from home on July 22 and illegally detained in an undisclosed location until his arrest was declared on July 28 along with the fabricated claim that he was discovered with a huge cache of arms.

    Reacting to the news, Canadian Sikh Coalition spokesman, Moninder S. Bual, said the case of Kulwant Singh is alarming as it indicated a continuation of India’s genocidal policy towards the Sikhs. “The story of Kulwant Singh is the same unfortunate story of countless Sikh youth who have suffered at the hands of India’s security forces. His example shamelessly exposes the modus operandi of the Punjab Police, arresting citizens arbitrarily and masking torture and custodial murder in preposterous lies.”...WAHEGURU MAHARAAAJJJJJJ

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  13. What I'm gleaning from this is that sikhs/people in the western world need to unite quickly in my opinion.

    Of course india is loosing alot of its sikhi but you can't blame the youth for that in india-there's no education, successive indian governments have deliberately taken sikh youth off the street in fake encounters, no money provided by the SGPC to eduacte our masses, politicians stirring it up by making radhaswami/other controversial dera flower like an atom bomb-there everywhere!!

    And to put a spanner in the works the only thing sikhs in the west (UK, CAN,USA) wanna to do is create wealth, maya has got to their heads and i'm one of those. Instead of living for the panth we now live in a world of continual denial towards our beautiful religion-which is perfect in every way.

    This is one big swing and nothing ever gets done about it

  14. Quite simple, if you think of the days when operation bluestar and black thunder happened, tensions were steadily rising in punjab. Sant Jarnail Singh Ji was a spokesman for the sikhs, everybody was scared of him especially the government who knew how strong sikhi was. The politicians therefore wanted to do whatever possible to eradicate or uneducate sikhs and those living in punjab. Indira knew exactly the power of the sikhs and sikhism so she knew where to hit them. So what did they do once 84 had finished: thekar started increasing, sikhs vanishing without evidence, corrupt police, radhaswami and christians started to appear-there are know dera of every sect in every pind. I've recently been to India and I've got to say I can't blame the kids who cut their hair because they no nothing about their religion. The hindustani government has deliberately or let me also SGPC havern't been pumping money into each pind to educate the masses. They were worried about the spread of sikhi. Education isn't taught like it is here, we have freedom of speech in the western world where nobody will mock you for your views.

    If you look at UK, USA and Canada people aren't prepared to help their religious communities because we're too engrossed in maia. We want the big houses and cars-show off to others what we have.

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