Gursikh Singh

Interesting turn of events. You admit killing animals, yet you want solutions to keep animals safe..... I see where your coming from with the global warming. Like use the car less often. Walk. It's good points. Your original statement is clear. You want to help animals live, but you want no carbon emission (from what I see). It's not as easy as you think. Then you accuse others of being narrow minded. Your admitting it...........unless your a liar............ It nice to actually talk to someone who talks with honesty for a change. Not liars trying to back their point based on falsehood. Let alone your other points, you cannot back up your first point yet. I used the word We not I. My summary of the group consensus. :D

Ok...after some 'interesting' :6 viewpoints from Jag_Singh, it seems that contributing to the death of animals through global warming by way of greenhouse gas emissions by fossil fuels is acceptable as long as the intention is 'totally the opposite to killing the animals'....which on hindsight is an oxymoron....as these emissions all contribute to global warming....which in turn is and will have a massive impact on the planet in regards to extinction and death of animals. Ok..so killing/harming animals by the way of global warming is acceptable, any other reasons when it's acceptable? We covered so far, pest control and eradication, and killing dangerous animals. hmmm...let me think....mmmm...how about harming/killing animals for pesticide/drug/chemical development? Acceptable within Sikhi or not?

Now your assuming. Assuming as got you to make 'irrelevent' points. Yet you want more......Keep feeding the fat kid cake.... Anyway, if you want more from me, do PM me please. I'll give you loads more. what the **** :lol:

Tou can tell a bright kid once. A dumb kid many times, yet still he will not understand. Oh...Ok... :6 You're not having some sort of breakdown, are you? Replying to yourself? :D First you're defending 'Sikhs' worshiping at stone idols now this! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Veerji , you literally let your imagination run wild in this case. . . Both of you'll carry on your discussion (if I could call it so) , i am really loving it ! ! As it is has been a very boring day for me today :D WJKK WJKF :D

You seem lost....I'll lend you my tom tom, I forgot, you don't take things from strangers...... Why are you replying to your own quotes? :6

'Gursikh' Singh is in his new Ferrari 'F430'. He gets his dog (who seems to be annoying to 'gursikh') and gets the dog's mouth and ties it to the back of the exhaust pipe of his new Ferrari 'F430'. So all the 'Carbon emission' is being thrown into 'Gursikhs' dog's mouth. After 2 hours of driving around in circles, (Ironically) 'Gursikh' notices his annoying dog is no more. 'Gursikh' is happy. However: 'Gursikh' is in his new Ferrari 'F430' and gets his dog to sit next to him in the car. They both go out for a amazing drive in the countryside. 'Gursikh' Singh doesn't have any intentions to harm any animals, but 'carbon emmision' is being released from his new car. Red Ferrari I might add! :D Ahh..ignorance is bliss...intend of having a nice walk with my dog, (zero fossil fuel green house gas emissions), I drive a gas guzzler instead. Nice one! :rolleyes: That's really being environmentally responsible...oh but 'it wasn't my intention'!

I'm sure it was. Well if you personally let out the emission and your intentions were to kill the animals, then yes. However, If your intentions were totally the opposite to killing the animals, then how is it wrong? Are you able to give an example?

You still haven't made a formal complaint to 3HO, or what ever channel you was watching. Yet you come on here asking for redemption, why? You're not defending stone idol worship anymore! :lol: Good..Good.

Interesting. So now 'Gursikh' is assuming something quite big........do back it up....well if you can..... As they say. Your own words reflect upon youself. A word of advice. Talk how much you know of. If you call yourself a 'Gursikh' then by all means act like one jee. :lol: Waving diva's in front of stone idols! You're defending it!

If that's what you think. As you can see that was a question, not a statement. If that's what you think. Do you think that's an acceptable form of killing animals?

Well well well. IF you are at the aavasthia where you can see 'Vaheguru' in all then its not a crime. For you, dogey sums it all up. Have you thought about making a formal complaint to them directly? Who let the RSS/Brahmins in? Accepting stone idol worshiping... That's a new low! :umm: WaheGuru WaheGuru

Could be anyone, maybe not even Sikh. It's your prejudices that make you label every white Sikh as 3ho. They were Sikh's. The Kirpan, the open beard, the white dumalla with the khanda on it kinda gave it away. :rolleyes:

Yeah, you're right. Carbon footprint. It would of been an amazing adventure. Yep, green house gas emission from fossil fuels, another mechanism where we are killing the environment and living beings. :sad: I guess that's another acceptable form of killing animals?

Judge what? Is it a crime to be a 3HO Sikh? You tell me. I'm curious......what's not 'alright'? Is it a crime to be a akj? Is it a crime to be a taksali? I think you know where we are going.......unless you want to know..... The diva stuff in front of a stone idol of the God Shiva is a bit dodgy....unless you think that's acceptable for Sikhs?

Well if you think the pest might harm you or your family, then choose what you think is right......It's killing them, or letting them crawl in your sofa, desk, kitchen, etc.... I thought you wanted me to see me with a fully grown tiger?.....oh well....maybe another time bhaji. Just youtube it for me! Less of a carbon footprint, us both traveling!

Since when were 'Gursikhs' allowed to judge? Judge what? Is it a crime to be a 3HO Sikh?

So we've established killing dangerous animals is acceptable in Sikhi. And that harming/killing animals that are considered pests is also acceptable. I'm assuming the use of chemicals is acceptable method of killing pests? I see. Contradicting isn't it... Maybe me and you need to go and pay the tigers a visit. Why pay them a visit?

You think tigers are dangerous animals. You are scared of them. You call your self a Gursikh, then act like one...... :lol: Yeah, I think tiger's are dangerous! You don't? Love to see you one on one with a fully grown tiger, Arm Chair Warrior! :lol:

Why do assume they were 3ho? Because they were white? They were white, dress all white, and not alright.

Ok good to see contributions here! :rolleyes: So it's OK to kill dangerous animals....excellent!...the tigers of this world will be happy to hear that. Any other reasons?

I just like to push this question onto the forum and ask when is it justified to kill or harm animals within Sikhi? What are acceptable reasons and what are unacceptable? Is it acceptable to support the harming or killing of animals for any reason? I'm interested in the members views on the acceptability of harming or killing animals for reasons other than meat For example I'm assuming killing animals if they are dangerous or are pests is acceptable in Sikhi?

Sorry, but that's broken punjabi couldn't understand it all. Sure Badal has changed alot, but even Nihangs have gone off track by doing Jhatka regularly. And Rehras Sahib and Anand Sahib split reading have been changed by the British Raj. Not condeming Jhatka,but asking questions about why the double standards. Hey, your in Hazur Sahib can you get this one question answered for me. If meat and vegetarian food are the same on the food line then why is there a different way to kill an animal for meat and for vegetables we can just do as we wish. Keep in mind the shabad by Guru Nanak Dev ji which says the sugar cane is suffering in pain being crushed between the wooden rollers. So why the double standard? Really need an answer here. Not just messing around here trying to cause trouble. Thanks in advance Back in the day, whilst working on the farms in england, (I was under 16 year old...so not exactly legit!) :BL: we had to cut little Gem Lettuces from the ground and place them onto a conveyor belt where they get packaged up. And it was literally jhatka the lettuce head with a knife, place on the conveyor belt, jhatka the next lettuce head with the knife place on the trailer,...and so on...for 12 hours straight!!! Damn...every time I used to close my eyes I'd just see lettuces... :D

I'm just waiting for someone to release a software that'll give me a Punjabi Keyboard for my iPhone :BL:

OMG not Aarti and Ganga!!! how discraceful to your Sect of Sikhi!!!!! Let me explain my view on this:- Aarti = Poetic verses explaining the importance and values of naam simran, whether this is sikh, hindi, jewish or christian you should listen and understand what is being said before slagging it off Ganga = A sacred place where Guru Nanak devji visited aswell as many other Mahapursh over millions of years. Just to do darshan of this sacred place is a privilage let alone any form of prayer to God. Yoga - Let me explain to you of my understanding before I get slated by all the so called Sikhs out there that jump on anything other than their narrow minded version of Sikhism. Sri Guru Granth Sahibji tells us to do naam simran which is not an easy task as our mind is attacked left right and center by the 5 evils, now for us to start naam simran we should try anything we can to get our mind to focus, as we are all individuals different things will help focus our mind. Yoga helps some, walking helps others, washing dishes others, sitting in a dark quiet room others. My point is Whether you sit at home or wash dishes at Harimandar Sahib or yoga at the river Ganges and do naam simran or Aarti or Japji Sahibji. You are better than the next person that wastes their time on Sikh Sangat slagging everyone else off for trying to better the life. They were on the banks of the Ganga, with a Hindu Brahmin, and other Hindu devotees, all chanting these Hindu hymns and ALL (including the 3H0 sikhs) holding a multi-tier lighted divas moving it around in a circle motion praising the Godess Ganga and the God Shiva.....I mean WHAT THE **** IS GOING ON!!! :o

Oh you find it acceptable do you that a girl is checking herself out in the mirror whist Waheguru ki simran is being played as the backing track? :6