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  1. Uhhh dude, i'd respond, but u have failed to refute my facts... U bring up my views... but we all know what i think, refute my facts dear brother!!!!..... I'm not going to argue what i've already explicitely stated.... Mods/ Admin I realize we're debating now, but i think this post is in the wrong section....should be moved to a place where it can be openly looked at
  2. How can one not debate over it... How can a person make an educated decision without looking at both sides of the issue... I'm sorry about my remarks about sikhism that i brought up in it...but i honestly feel that if a person follows sikhi with their heart and mind, then they can relate to what i've said.... I just think that for people to be educated voters they need to be able to see both sides of the issure...
  3. This is response to Japnaam Ji's response: 1. Religious my foot, when u go and have no respect for another religion/ culture what may it be... ur not religious... how many muslims in America have been under scrutiny just because their muslims... even our fellow canadians have been effected by it... seems that if any of the muslims visit family in the middle east, they're all undercover Al-qaeda agents... Kerry by the way is Catholic... and u kno what right now Bush is not in favour w the Pope because of what's happened in Iraq- perhaps if Kerry's voted in, u'll gain some heavenly blessings in return, instead of the Hellish hurricanes, volcanoe threats and what not.... 2.About abortion- touchy topic, but u kno what... there are circumstances in which I believe abortion is necessary... and As a sikhs we don't have any written word that says it right or wrong (if there is please bring it to my knowledge as i've discussed this w my father who has now read the SGGS three times)...Whether u personally believe it to be wrong thas ur view, but why force that view on someone else... let them have the right to decide what they want to do with their bodies... And our life is written by the Almighty God, if his hukam was that it's up to the person, why are we trying to act like God then.. There's a reason for everything, and everything has it's place.... now there are cases where a woman gets pregnant from her rapist, and u want that woman to suffer for the next nine months just so that there's another child to over populate this world we're living in.... by means, let's see if you could deal w it if your own sister had to go through th e ordeal.... 3. Drink.... who says it's right or wrong.... ppl we have nihangs that drink Bhang- thas a drug form tooo.... everything is moderation is alright.,... and even if not... countries have been run w drunkards in power (canada too Japnaam ji if u remember u social studies- John A. Macdonald, Hey we're still here prospering) Hence i believe this shouldn't be even considered... 4. Oh yes, America's got democracy in Afganistan now.. well they blood hell should by now... it's the second time they've liberated that country.... History behind Afganistan... was ruled by war lords for centuries, have russia interested in takin over it durin the 70's/80's... hmmmm someone named Osama bin Laden was fighting against the Russians required help, and the Americans supplied the help.... and voila, the russians r out, and they leave Bin Laden w the country, without trying to establish proper democracy.... and that same dude comes and bites them in the arse 20 yrs later..... well if they don't get it right this time, who will.... Oh and w what's happening in Iraq... I'm not sure if Saddam was a saint or not, but i do no that everyday life there was prolly much better than what they're experiencing now...because there's a lot more chaos ensuin there... How can u say they're spreading democracy, when they infringed on another country's sovreignty, just because they didn't like the guy that led it.... (Japnaam Ji, i'd be scared if i were u, because u kno what... Bush doesn't like Martin... hmmm what could that lead to i wonder, liberation of us Canadians :| ) 5. I say there's no need for private schools,...what there is need for is strong public schools were the majority of the children can be educated, I can't believe that as a sik h ur vouching for separate sikh schools... we're all about equality, about sharing whatever we have w our neighbors and u want to put up blockades to that.... The public system in America is at it's worst right now....and to me, thas scary, what will happen when those children grow up.... you'll get more of the mindless, unable to think masses (oh hey wait a minute.... that could work out in his favour now couldn't it...) 6.The economy at the moment is only the way it is because it has been artificially inflated through money lent by the chinese and japanese ppl, take that out and *KABOOM* ... what economy???? And i'm surprised u say that the American economy is strong Japnaam ji, do u no realize that our loonie is the strongest it has been against the americans, thas because theirs is slowly slipping... 7. What good has Bush done for free trade???? Ummmm Softwood Lumbar dispute (bush raised tariffs on it, so that we couldn't compete in the US).... Cattle sales into the US have been stopped... and they refuse to review the situation... this seriously affects not only the price of meat in canada, but the livelihoods of many ranchers whose families have been in it forever, and yo, i kno u prolly don't eat meat, hey neither do i... but no matter what it's still apart of our industries and it affects the people around u if not u urself 8. If you look at his ability to communicate, he has the worst ability to convey what he's thinking.... like honestly, he has no vocabulary whatsoever, can't think off the top of his head, stutters and stumbles, is unaware of the rest of the world and what's happening (only thinks of oil, and countries that have oil...damn it again Canada is threatened...) 9. Hmmmm if you are focussin on the war of terrorism, how come they're in Iraq? what happened to getting the root of the entire grief of America, Mr. Osama Bin Laden??? They still haven't caught him, and I believe that if u get rid of the root, the rest of the tre e can't survive, so how come focus was diverted from Afganistan and the Al-Qaeda and switched to Iraq, i have yet to figure that out.... Dude after reading all this u still think Bush is the choice, then by all means go for it... But i kno that anyone w a moral conscious wouldn't be able to, esp a canadian!!!! NOTE: Again, no debates over this and no reply to anyone's points. Just write the name and state few points. Also, just because some people do some stuff does not mean it is teaching of Sikhi. If anyone turns it into a debate like other posts, I will start deleting. Then don't complain you weren't told. -14
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