mohinder pal

Both Muslims (Ismael) and Jews (Isaac) are the sons of one father ABraham (descendants of Noah).

Israel on one side is correct that Palestine belongs to them because this place was the place of Judah before it was taken over by Ottoman Empire and later by Islam/Muslims.

Currently, Even Middle east powers like Saudi/ Qatar/ and other Sunni countries donot support Hamas bcz they think HAMAS as a Islamist outwing is much worse for them then Israel (Link it with Arab revolts in Egypt/Syria/Iraq/Saudi and other countries). These countries do not want HAMAS like ppl to bring Arab revolts in their countries. That is why Muslim Brotherhood was overthrown in Egypt and was taken over agin by Military (Mr. SISI).

Uthagyi Sabha Malesh Ki......Kar Kora Pasar

Danka Bahje Fateh Ka.....Nehaklank Avatar.

Sikhi was there since satyug times. thats why bhagat prahlad and Dhru bhagat names have come in SGGSJi.

triangular dastar started during british time

THe Original one is in London Musuem. British took along with them.

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Kindly watch from 27min. AMazing Explanation

Panch Parvaan ....Panch Pardaan.

THose Panch are puran Sant , Mahapursh, Gursikh who are Ram Kabeera Ek Baye Hai ....Koye Na Sake Pashaani...(THIS GURBANI TUK IS ONLY FOR PURAN....COMPLETE KHALSA)

Can you just try to stick to the subject being discussed here.

You should be even more surprise we throw Punjabi Newpapers in Sewages or Garbase(which contains Gurkhmukhi Akshars and GUrbani and Pics of Guru Sahib Baan).

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.Guru Bakhshand......Guru Bakhshand......Guru Sada Bakhshand.

_{how many neeldhari, nirmala, and udhasis supporters go to weddings or other 'formal' events with there kirpan off or under there dress shirt trying every attempt to hide the kirpan? The mind is weak and these people are in complete duality. They hide that which has done kirpa on countless souls, but flash those things that has robbed so many people. Now is this about inner rehat? Where is the justice in such peoples speech?}

_{here is a secular example. If you want to join the army can you be relaxed on the army discipline? The army considers those individuals who do not properly make there bed and don't keep there headquarters clean as people who will not do proper investigations skipping over detailed evidence gathering. So is making your bed only about outer secular discipline?}

_{In Sikhi there is one teacher who is Satguru. Everyone else including the Bhagats whose Bani is in Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sabih Ji were/are students. Listen to Sant ji define who is the teacher and he says the 10 human forms of SHabad Guru and then Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji and no one else. Why didn't Sant ji add Baba Deep Singh Ji who is jivan mukht to the teacher list? Sant ji could have said Baba ji is a Sant and he is the same as Akal Purakh so Baba ji is a teacher. Understanding this point is every important because it will keep you away from those that do devi worship of the new age devi who are in the costume of Sants and Babas. Where das heard this answer loud and clear is in Sri Chaupai Sahib where Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib Ji says.......I am not saying this (Bani) but You ( Akal Purakh) are saying it through me and I do as You wish. Can any Sant claim to write Gurbani like Satguru? No! Then why are you following those people as a teachers when they are students in this world? Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sabih Ji told us Ik Onkar Satgur Parsad. Do Sants fit in the definition of Satgur? Can there be a bigger Sant than Bhai Gurdas Ji whose Vaars have been given the status as the key of Gurbani? A student stays a student don't matter what status they achieve in this world because as Gurbani says we have father WHO CREATED US}

_{It is all pakhand what these Sant and sant followers are doing and they have not understood the mool(root) of Gurbani.}

You are right ....nobody Can be Satguru.......But kabir sahib is telling RAM KABIRA EK PAEHE HAI.....KOI NA SAKE PASHANI

Kabi sahib is also telling himself in SGGSJi as Sant........"Kya APRAAD SANT HAI KINA"

Please post more of these.....

I heard from my PArents....that Jatha of bhindrawale(Group who was very close to Sant Bhindrawale) had done enormous paaths of Chandi Di Vaar to get Bakhshish from Guru Maharaj.and there was special noor on their face

Areyyy bandeya......

10 Gurus were Dehdhari...but our 10th Guru declared that we should only consider SGGS our Guru...

As u know this is kaljug...n day by day crime n criminals r increasing......

Ok let me put it this way....

CAN U FIND A PERSON TODAY WHO CAN COMPETE ANY OF OUR 10 GURUS.....??

CAN U FIND ANOTHER GURU GOBIND SINGH G THE KING OF KINGS.....

PANTH PANTH H GURU GURU H....

CHELA CHELA HUNDA GURU NI. ....WE R FOLLOWERS OF GURU BUT WE R NOT GURU.....

Bhenji You again took it wrong. Satguru would not consult me or you before declaring the Guruship to someelse.....That is his Mauj......He is srab kala Samrath and can do anything.

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Just to sum up .....lets we keep our Jargon on side and keep our faith on SGGSJI......

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Even if Dehdhari Guru is there......He would eventually tell what Guru Nanak dev ji till SGGSJI told "Naam Jap"

No more debates......Pls FOrgive for any nonsense from myside

R u calling me bro?

OMG I M GIRL -KUDI- SISTER -BHENJI

Well chal thik e.... 10 Gurus were Sants Mahapurush...gyanis....rabb....etc....

In this life let me explore my Gurus coz I know for sure if I could take 100 birth to know my 10 Gurus my task of exploring will not accomplish.....

u talk about some Mahapursh I have 10

U talk about panth Guru have my Guru siting like king in form of SGGS G

U say Gurgaddi can be transfered to dehdhari Guru......

Then I have DehdharI Guru in form of SGGS g... U know it has 1430 hands n legs....10 hearts 10 souls 10 brains n so many additional brains as well......

I would like to term SGGS G AS SUPER HUMAN......

SIKHO APNE PANTH TO BHATKO NA SGGS G IS GURU APNA......EH SADHU SANTA CH NA PAWO....U WILL NOT BECOME KHALIS IF U WILL KEEP ON SEARCHING DEHDHARI GURU....

Bhenji......Kindly Clear you facts......If Guru Arjan Dev ji Didnot come in Dehdhari Saroop...You wouldn't have seen Dhan DHan Guru Granth Sahib ji Today... Without Dehdhari...We are nothing.

Satguru Always Gave Raaj first to Devils.....in satyug...it started with Hrinakusipo(Father of Bhagat Prahlad), Jalandhar Dhaint...then in Treta to Ravan,,,then i Dwapar to Kans and Mughals.......and so on.

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.but the in the Climax( ). Satguru took avatar to establish Dharam.

No Offences Bro......SOmetime even Older ones at Home could be wrong.........Avoid Listening to many Katha Vachaks these days....who donot know anything about GURU and talk about Everything about GURU.

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.Try reading the Jeevanis of Sant Mahapursh.....You will get more gyan in those jeevanis bcz Sant Mahapursh do Practical of whatever Theory is written in SGGSJI.

Lolzzz If you donot bother to check Sri Dasam Granth.....Then you donot even bother to check WHat Dasam Pita ji is telling in his Bani..

IT WAS CLEARLY STATED BY GURU GOBIND SINGH G....ONLY CONSIDER GURU GRANTH SAHIB G UR GURU..,..

IF THERE WAS NEED OF MORE GURUS THEN I THINK MY DAD IS NOT A FOOL TO GIVE OUT HUKUM TO NOT TO WORSHIP HIM....

HE CLEARLY STATES TO CONSIDER GRANTH SAHIB JI AS PHYSICAL N SPIRITUAL GURU.......,

GURU H BANI, BANI H GURU....WHICH BANI AMRIT SAARE.......

GURU NANAK TE SHURU HOKE GURU GOBINB TE KATAM....

TE ENHA DI NJOT SHRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI HAIGE SADE KOL,,.

I m reading SGGS Nowadays.... N whenever I read I feel like my Guru is speaking..rather then just considering it a piece of paper......

GURU GRANTH CH MANNO DEHDHARI AJKAL DE <banned word filter activated> HUNDE NE...

So as per you...in future what Sri Dasam Granth ji is telling Nehaklank Avatar and Kalki avatar would come in SHABAD ROOP not in Dehdhari Roop.?

It was Adi Granth... it was not sampooran at that time as banis of ninth guru and other bhagats, bhats and sufis was not yet added...

My Friends COrrect your facts....that time Guru Arjuan Dev ji bowed to Guru Adi Granth and Considered it as Shabad Roop and First Hukamnama was SANTA KE KARAJ AAP KHLOYEA....HAR KAM KARAVAN RAM.

What relevance has this with the topic being discussed on this thread?

Don't just say something for the sake of saying, Back it with proof.

We abide by Guru Gobind Singh Ji'S Hukum of Guru Maneo Granth, no ifs no buts.

It is only misguided, ignorant, pseudo Sikhs who need dehdhari Gurus.

My Friend what more proof you want more than this......

1.Guru granth sahib maharaj ji was parkashmaan as Shabad Guru and At same time from Guru Arjun Dev ji till Dasam Patshah we had Dehdhari Guru.

This is because of u all...Namdharis r existing......

Guru Gobind Singh wargs duja labdo,...I will be happy to kiss it feet 10000000 of times

GURU NANAK DEB JI. ... TO SHURU KARKE GURU GOBIND SINGH TAK...EH WAJE BANDE LABDO PANTH CH,.....

FIND ME ONE WHO CAN B EQUIVALENT TO OUR GURUS......I WILL AGREE CONSIDER PANTH AS GURU......

Till that GURU MANYO GRANTH IS ALL I BELIEVE IN....

My Friend There is no Equivalent to SHabad Guru Roop(i.e. Guru Granth Sahib ji who is the current Guru of entire Humanity). I justed wanted to make a point that Satguru Can do anything. If Guruji had told that Guru Granth ji Maneo Pargat Guran ki Deh that time......Same Guru can give Guruship to anyone(to whomsoever Guru ji consisder). I or You cannot make assumptions that If Dasam Patshah Gave guruship to Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj ji......then there won;t be any further Dehdhari Guru in Future.

On One side you are telling Guru is Sarab Kala Samrath....and on other side you are telling there is no Guru after Guru Granth Sahib ji.......Guru can do anything.

We see Guru Granth sahib ji as only Hold Book(Our Physical EYes only see Papers in it), Ask those Bhagat, Sant Mahapursh who had not seen Papers in SGGSJI but got Partak Darshan of Patshahis in it.(Pargat Guran Ki Deh)

It was the King - Shri Guru Gobind Singh ji who gave hukum...GURU MANEO GRANTH......

No one else can be Guru......

Guru Granth sahib ch 10 Guruwa di jot hai....... Panth nu Guru danaya te jathebandi waddegi....

I repeat if u will make Panth ur Guru....Jathebandi will increase.......

I its better to come up with Some Gurbani to prove something....rather then coming out with oh falale...katha karan wale babe ne eh keha c.......

Band karo eh katha wachak di galla.....n Gurbani padho.....

If Guru Gobind singh ji Can give hukam that Guru Maneo Granth.....WHy Cannot Guru Granth Sahib ji mhahraj give hukam to the deserved onces.

If you people think You donot need Dehdhari Guru like 1st patshahi till Dasam Patshahi, Then my friend WE WOUNDN"T HAVE GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI PARKASHMAN TODAY BCZ SGGSJI IS WRITTEN BY A DEHDHARI.

One question

1. If GUru Gobind singh ji Gave GuruGadi to Dhan DHan Shri Guru Granth Sahib ji......then Guru Granth Sahib ji can also give Guru Gaddi further to anyone Maharaj ji Likes? why only till Granth Sahib.

2. Guru Granth Sahib ji was also there as Parkashman when Guru Arjan Dev ji was also Satguru.Right from Guru Arjun Dev ji till Dasam Patshah. We had Dehdhari Satguru Plus Shabad Guru.