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Hello Sikhsangatji,

Is there any Software on net available thru which i am able to record the live sessions of Shri Harimandir Sahib Kirtan which i hear on Windows Media Player

Even Prophet Mohammad said' Aun Al Huq'(I am God) in his Sangat. Sangat asked Prohet Mohammed ' Mohammad Sahibji, you have told us strictly, 'Nobody should prclaim himself as God and whosoever proclaim should be Killed; and we heard you saying AUn Al Haq( I Am god' what should be done. Mohammed Prohet Replied,' Cut my Head if i proclaim again'.

Next time Prophet Mohammed again said,' Aun Al Haq(I am God), the few followers(such followers are found in every sangat who try to test Even Satguru) told that Prophet had instructed that if He proclaims himself God, His Head should be Cut. Lets cut his Head. When One of the Follower draw and sword and try to cut the Head, the Sword just passed between the Neck(Fully Passed the body') and nothing happened to Prophet Mohammed; not even single cut and not even single Shot of Blood. Later when Prophet Moahmmad out of his Samadhi, Followers asked' Mohammed Sahib ji, We did the same thing you told us; i.e to cut the head if the Proclaim myself God again but nothing happened to you.

Prophet Mohammed Replied,' That was not me in my body, that was indeed the Allah Speaking from me'

Veerji,

Your question was indirectly focus on moorakh like me who just see Sant, mahapursh , Guru as a Physical Body whereas some Shrest Bhagats see their Guru, Sant, mahapursh in Different Sarrop and they become Vismaad

Kalyugi ji,

If Akal purakh speaks ' I am the Crator and I am the Supreme God' out from your body and your self is not even aware of it. What would you say to that.

Mansoor was hanged till death becuase when He was revealed by Akal purakh in his own Body; he said' Aun Al Haq, Aun Al Haq'(I am the God). When Revleation of Akal Purakh happens in Human Body; that body is not just what we see(Physical body), it becomes shabad saroop from inside even though when when we look at the saroops of Guru nanak Dev ji, And other Patshahis- it is not just the Physical body but also the Braham Saroop or Shabad Saroop in it for which we require special eyes. that is why Arjun was the one who was able to see the Nirankar jot in Krishna when Kirshna revealed his mighty saroop in mahabarata even though they were others also in the Kurukshetra feild, only Arjun saw that saroop. Arjun was also the shreast bhagat of Krishna because of his Previous Bhagti, Naam bandagi.

Kayee kot jakh kinnar pisach Kayee kot bhoot pret shookar mirgach" Guru Sahib Ang 276

Veerji,

Foremost we should remember that Shabad is GURU and whosoever recieves that Baksheesh from Akal purakh, become roop of Shabad irrespective whether He is of different Caste, Relegion, Race or Color.

When we look at the world , we look in CHaamdrishti(looking at the Body Parts or Physical body) but puran satguru, Sant, mahapursh doesnot look at the Physical body but they Have Brahm Drishti(they look at the Jot prevading in every being).

Bhagat Bani in SGGSji was written by calling those Bhagats from Sachkhand and give their Bani COnrtibution. the pen with which Gurbani was written was also from Sachkhand which was thrown into Shri Harimandir sahib ji's sarovar after completing the Adi granth(then Guru Gobind singh ji used that pen from Sachkhand to write entrie SGGSJi and Dasam Granth). Some people debate that Bhagat bani was written by collecting the sorces from where bhagats were living; thats not true; SGGSji is dargahi bani and whatever is written in it and whosoever's bani is written are also Dargahi.

Guru nanak Dev ji Bowed to Guru Angad dev ji, Guru Angad devji bowed to Guru Amar Das ji and So on till SGGSji. this what Gurbani says- GURU-CHELA Relationship. Guru Bestows someone special from the sangat to become Guru in future(When we says Guru-that means Shabad da nivaas in that Deh). Vaho vaho Gobding Singh Ape Guru Chela. that means he himself is Guru and does bakshish on Chela to Become Guru(Shabad Roop) but we See on Chaam Drishti not Braham Drishti. Only few in the True Sangat have access to see Satguru in Braham Drishti which shresht Bhagati.

Since we are not able to see what they see in Guru, we fight/Debate to convince our points to others.

Hello Sikhsangat,

Just a thought, looking at the Original Bir of SGGSji and todays' Printed Bir of SGGSji, there are always some blank pages(4-5) in the end. Is there a specific reason for that; like Guruji would continue write more gurbani or simpally left those pages?

Only Five ji,

Then Can you please clarify my some doubts

1. Then why did Bhagat Naamdev ji, Bhagat Soordas ji, and other Bhagats recieved the Darshan of Shri krishna after doing So Jap and Tap.

2. Then why Vishnu had to take the avtaar of Narsinga to save prahlad but where as Gurbani says Ram Japo ji Aisa Aisa, Dhru Prahlad Japiyoo Har Jaise. beacuse all these Bhagats also recieved Vishnu Avtaars Darshan too.

3. Why Guru Gobind singh ji Maharaji on one side praising All these avtaars and on the other side telling 'Main Ganeshe Pritham Manao, Kishan,Bishan kabho na Dhaeyoo'

ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ ਬਾਣੀ ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ ਕੀ

maalee gourraa baanee bhagath naamadhaev jee kee

Maalee Gauraa, The Word Of Devotee Naam Dayv Jee:

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ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

ik oankaar sathigur prasaadh ||

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

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ਧਨਿ ਧੰਨਿ ਓ ਰਾਮ ਬੇਨੁ ਬਾਜੈ ॥

dhhan dhhann ou raam baen baajai ||

Blessed, blessed is that flute which the Lord plays.

10 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev

ਮਧੁਰ ਮਧੁਰ ਧੁਨਿ ਅਨਹਤ ਗਾਜੈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

madhhur madhhur dhhun anehath gaajai ||1|| rehaao ||

The sweet, sweet unstruck sound current sings forth. ||1||Pause||

10 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev

ਧਨਿ ਧਨਿ ਮੇਘਾ ਰੋਮਾਵਲੀ ॥

dhhan dhhan maeghaa romaavalee ||

Blessed, blessed is the wool of the sheep;

10 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev

ਧਨਿ ਧਨਿ ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨ ਓਢੈ ਕਾਂਬਲੀ ॥੧॥

dhhan dhhan kirasan oudtai kaanbalee ||1||

blessed, blessed is the blanket worn by Krishna. ||1||

11 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev

ਧਨਿ ਧਨਿ ਤੂ ਮਾਤਾ ਦੇਵਕੀ ॥

dhhan dhhan thoo maathaa dhaevakee ||

Blessed, blessed are you, O mother Dayvakee;

11 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev

ਜਿਹ ਗ੍ਰਿਹ ਰਮਈਆ ਕਵਲਾਪਤੀ ॥੨॥

jih grih rameeaa kavalaapathee ||2||

into your home the Lord was born. ||2||

11 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev

ਧਨਿ ਧਨਿ ਬਨ ਖੰਡ ਬਿੰਦ੍ਰਾਬਨਾ ॥

dhhan dhhan ban khandd bindhraabanaa ||

Blessed, blessed are the forests of Brindaaban;

12 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev

ਜਹ ਖੇਲੈ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਨਾਰਾਇਨਾ ॥੩॥

jeh khaelai sree naaraaeinaa ||3||

the Supreme Lord plays there. ||3||

12 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev

ਬੇਨੁ ਬਜਾਵੈ ਗੋਧਨੁ ਚਰੈ ॥

baen bajaavai godhhan charai ||

He plays the flute, and herds the cows;

12 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev

ਨਾਮੇ ਕਾ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਆਨਦ ਕਰੈ ॥੪॥੧॥

naamae kaa suaamee aanadh karai ||4||1||

Naam Dayv's Lord and Master plays happily. ||4||1||

13 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev

ਮੇਰੋ ਬਾਪੁ ਮਾਧਉ ਤੂ ਧਨੁ ਕੇਸੌ ਸਾਂਵਲੀਓ ਬੀਠੁਲਾਇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

maero baap maadhho thoo dhhan kaesa saanvaleeou beethulaae ||1|| rehaao ||

O my Father, Lord of wealth, blessed are You, long-haired, dark-skinned, my darling. ||1||Pause||

13 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev

ਕਰ ਧਰੇ ਚਕ੍ਰ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਤੇ ਆਏ ਗਜ ਹਸਤੀ ਕੇ ਪ੍ਰਾਨ ਉਧਾਰੀਅਲੇ ॥

kar dhharae chakr baikunth thae aaeae gaj hasathee kae praan oudhhaareealae ||

You hold the steel chakra in Your hand; You came down from Heaven, and saved the life of the elephant.

14 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev

ਦੁਹਸਾਸਨ ਕੀ ਸਭਾ ਦ੍ਰੋਪਤੀ ਅੰਬਰ ਲੇਤ ਉਬਾਰੀਅਲੇ ॥੧॥

dhuhasaasan kee sabhaa dhropathee anbar laeth oubaareealae ||1||

In the court of Duhsaasan, You saved the honor of Dropati, when her clothes were being removed. ||1||

14 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev

ਗੋਤਮ ਨਾਰਿ ਅਹਲਿਆ ਤਾਰੀ ਪਾਵਨ ਕੇਤਕ ਤਾਰੀਅਲੇ ॥

gotham naar ahaliaa thaaree paavan kaethak thaareealae ||

You saved Ahliyaa, the wife of Gautam; how many have You purified and carried across?

15 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev

ਐਸਾ ਅਧਮੁ ਅਜਾਤਿ ਨਾਮਦੇਉ ਤਉ ਸਰਨਾਗਤਿ ਆਈਅਲੇ ॥੨॥੨॥

aisaa adhham ajaath naamadhaeo tho saranaagath aaeealae ||2||2||

Such a lowly outcaste as Naam Dayv has come seeking Your Sanctuary. ||2||2||

15 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev

ਸਭੈ ਘਟ ਰਾਮੁ ਬੋਲੈ ਰਾਮਾ ਬੋਲੈ ॥

sabhai ghatt raam bolai raamaa bolai ||

Within all hearts, the Lord speaks, the Lord speaks.

16 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev

ਰਾਮ ਬਿਨਾ ਕੋ ਬੋਲੈ ਰੇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

raam binaa ko bolai rae ||1|| rehaao ||

Who else speaks, other than the Lord? ||1||Pause||

16 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev

ਏਕਲ ਮਾਟੀ ਕੁੰਜਰ ਚੀਟੀ ਭਾਜਨ ਹੈਂ ਬਹੁ ਨਾਨਾ ਰੇ ॥

eaekal maattee kunjar cheettee bhaajan hain bahu naanaa rae ||

Out of the same clay, the elephant, the ant, and the many sorts of species are formed.

17 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev

ਅਸਥਾਵਰ ਜੰਗਮ ਕੀਟ ਪਤੰਗਮ ਘਟਿ ਘਟਿ ਰਾਮੁ ਸਮਾਨਾ ਰੇ ॥੧॥

asathhaavar jangam keett pathangam ghatt ghatt raam samaanaa rae ||1||

In stationary life forms, moving beings, worms, moths and within each and every heart, the Lord is contained. ||1||

17 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev

ਏਕਲ ਚਿੰਤਾ ਰਾਖੁ ਅਨੰਤਾ ਅਉਰ ਤਜਹੁ ਸਭ ਆਸਾ ਰੇ ॥

eaekal chinthaa raakh ananthaa aour thajahu sabh aasaa rae ||

Remember the One, Infinite Lord; abandon all other hopes.

18 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev

ਪ੍ਰਣਵੈ ਨਾਮਾ ਭਏ ਨਿਹਕਾਮਾ ਕੋ ਠਾਕੁਰੁ ਕੋ ਦਾਸਾ ਰੇ ॥੨॥੩॥

pranavai naamaa bheae nihakaamaa ko thaakur ko dhaasaa rae ||2||3||

Naam Dayv prays, I have become dispassionate and detached; who is the Lord and Master, and who is the slave? ||2||3||

19 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev

If Gurbani is telling there was a ADAM, then Sikh should believe the Adam's Existence

As i said earliar, Some avtaars come just for some specific purpose, and some come to spread Naam and Sikhi.

Arjun was one of the Shrest bhagat of Shri Krishna(Refer to Bhagvad Gita). SGGSJi says- TU bhagtan Ke Vas Bhagta'n Taan Tera.

Dark has to spread so that Light Shines Joyfully. Even Diamond comes out of a Coal. Importance of truth is known only when there is Lies all around.

Look at positive point. Bhai Sahib ji SPreading sikhi and initiating lot of Punjabis and others to take Amrit Paan. Good for Sikh Panth.

Looking @ SANT-SIPAHI word, Sant comes before Sipahi. Become sant first and then you become sipahi to fight with you inner self and Outer world too. Look @ Sant Shaheed baba Deep Singh ji. Babaji did Naam jap and learned gurbani and side by side learnt shaster vidiya. Only Sipahi cannot cut his head and fight in the battlefield with his head cut. this is done only by SANT SIPAHI.

Shabad practice is only done in DEH. that is why even Devatas and Devis beg for Human body(Deh) for Naam Jap.

Even SGGSJi is pratak 10 Patshahis Deh (only to Puran Sant s and Brahmagaynis) not to people like us who just think and see it as a holy book of Sikhs. They have seen prathak darshan of Satgurus in SGGSJI

Pantees Akhari is one more additional bani to the above mentioned list by 10th Patshahi.

Also for you information,

Hiranyakashipu, Ravaan, Kans and so many were actually the devattas who were cursed by the Sages or Sants or Yogis for their wrogndoing to born as asuras(Based on Vishnu Puran writings). They were born as Asuras or Demons and also made pledge to die in the hands of the Vishnu Avtaar(Shri Krishna, Shri Raam, Narsingha Avtaar) becuase dieing in the hands of the Avtaar, Satguru means Liberation and Mukti from Curses,Births and Deaths.

Today many Sikhs questions what was the need for the Satgurujito kill animals in the Jungle(Shikaar). but remember that Satguruji come to forgive others beacuse of their previous Bandagi,Naam Kamai. For Example, Guru nanaak Dev ji forgiven all those suffering from Diseases, Leprosy, Cancer and incurable diseases and mardana asked guruji,' Guruji what was their Previous Karam that they have such Incurable Disease with SO much Pain and Suffering. Guruji Replied,' Maradana, this man suffering from leprosy was chef in the Kitchen of the Raja Janak(Satguru of that Time); He steal so much food fromthe Kitchen, that is why he suffering this Karam, that man was the Caretaker at the Raja Janak's Horse Stable. He stole Horses from their and suffering such Karam and SO on.

So satguru always come toforgive others either by killing in the name of Shikaar, or by forgiving or by telling himto do Seva at guru Ghar ordo Naam Jaap.

Guys,

Aurangzeb was not a ordinary person. Just think for a second, if he would have been a Ordinary Person like us, then what was the need for SATGURUji to send the Zafarnama to him; that could have been done by someother person.

Aurangzeb used to write Kuran books to earn his daily earnings even though He had whole Mugahl Empire in his hands. Also He use to go to Mecca everyday from India to Saudi bcz he had siddhi. Guru Gobind singh ji met him in wy between Mecca to warn him He is not doing good by Having enemity with Gurughar and gave aurangzeb his small talwar to convince aurangzeb that he is not dreaming and whatever is happening is real because Aurangzeb had Ahnkaar that Only he has power to travel daily to Mecca . When he open his eyes in Hindustan , He saw that small talwar actually in his hand which convinced him that he was not dreaming and he had actual conversation with Guruji.

Also, Ravan was not aordinary being. He was one of the Smartest Brahaman of his times. He actually did Shri ganesh Pooja for Shri Raam at the Bridge which was built by Ram Sena. He knew it before hand at he was supposed to die from the hands of Shri Raam. He was one of the Shresht Bhagat of SHIVA. He also knew that Sita which he kidnapped is not the real sita just the Shadow of the Shakti. Today everybody thinks ravan was a bad guy

Basically Enemies and Lovers of Satguru or Avataars are not ordinary neings like us. they are special that is why Satguru or Avataar comes to kill them. Only Satguru or that particular avtaar knows what was their Previous Karma and Bhagati.

Both are same. Baba Farid was also known as Baba Shkarganj, Bhagat Farid, Baba Farid.

Bhika Baat Agham Ki, Jo Kehan Sunnan Mein Naahi

Jo Jaaney so Na Kahey, Jo Kahe so Jaane Naai

Basically Gianiji is not talking about 2012 but upcoming/Future Disasters like:

1. No Oil left on earth.

2. Money is not everything and following Rightful Path and doing good things is more important.

2. Earth is undergoing major changes. Coming years would be followed by Major Earth Quakes, Floods Shifting of North Pole. Change in the Magnetic filed of the Earth leading to Distrupt the Telecommunications.all around the world

3. Do More Naam Jap and Simran and think positively.

4. Eat less. Eat good. Worldwide Food Crisis.

Hoye Nimana Jag Raho Nanak Nadri Paar.

It all depends on Satguru Sache Patshahe whther Guruji accepts his/her ardas. Sometimes Naati Dhoti Rah Gayi, Moh te Makhi Beh Gayi(Even after so much Bath and Makeup to convince the Husband(Akal Purakh), Akal purakh may not accept his/her shingar).

As a Norm, always stand and do ardas but ultimately its your Faith and Bhavna which takes you to the other end.