Drogba

What sort of person would do keertan there. Places like that wouldn't exist if we all stuck to our faith.

i dont think that terminating your life is a good thing to do.

think of it this way, it would be better to spend more time alive, doing bhagti and seva then dying. if your leading a gursikh lifestyle, by living longer you are erasing more and more sins. once you die, the only things that shall go with you are your sins both good and bad.

then once you are ready, god shall terminate you himself.

If the Sikh Gurus were messengers of God, then why were they always being killed by Moghul forces? Shouldn't God have protected his messengers? I ask because I heard some muslims talking about how muhammad (sp?) was a victorious figure who overcame the odds to win in battle and religion. When I looked up one battle it seems as though muhammad did find himself getting a lot of "breaks" such as an enemy general secretly converting to islam and causing an overwhelming force of muhammad's enemies to flee when muhammad's defeat (and death) seemed certain. These breaks could easily be interpreted as divine intervention by muslims. When the Gurus needed God most God did not intervene. So why did the Sikh Gurus get killed off but Muhammad survived/thrived? If God was really on their side then wouldn't God have intervened like God did for muhammad? This is larger than the question of why bad things happen to good people (which this question could be interpreted as asking), since the Sikh Gurus were not just ordinary people. They were supposed to be carrying God's message.

if the gurus lost, we would not be here. we are living proof of the maharaj's victory. also read about the shaheedi of dhan dhan guru arjan dev ji maharaj. the gods were prepared to protect them, however they did not want any interference

Thanx Drogba, My brother has the HTC G2 and my pops the HTC Pulse. I know the G2 has better features but I like the look of the pulse so which HTC phone is the best is it the desire. Also do you know if they are better than the Sony X10 or vivaz.

Thanx in advance if you can help. It's only so I can negotiate a better deal, as then they will know what I am talking about. Again THANK YOU.

im pretty sure that vivaz isnt a smart phone, its selling point is the HD camera but x10 does use the android operating system. if your wanting to upgrade to the iphone i dont think that you will be able to negotiate any better deal then whats already on offer. the prices arent set by the providers but by apple themselves unless you get a reconditioned one. thats where its been sent back within the two week cooling off period, so its considered second hand. bear in mind that some of the reconditioned ones may have just been refused delivery at the door, so they wont have been opened. but because they have been returned, they are slightly cheaper then a brand new iphone.

remember with the iphone you can get unlimited web browsing, and its got 16gb of memory as standard. for other phones your goin to have to purchase external memory if you want to store as much data. not many people have complained about the 3gs, but the main problem with the 3g was the battery life. apparently thats been increased by 40 percent in the 3gs so your not goin to have many qualms with it

hope i'v been helpful, but check this site below, it has alot of information and reviews.

http://www.gsmarena.com/

Also is anyone out there that might know which phone is more aless similar to an iPhone. Which smartphone will have the same spec, features etc.? Please I know that might sound like a stupid question so SORRY in advance, I'am not really that much into gadgets.

On thing is though I don't like Blackberry's. So anything apart from blackberrys please. We get them from work and I can only get my work e-mail on it not another something to do with the BES, it has a feature to set up your own as well but I can't.

Please I'am not being totally lazy if you can just suggest some phones and then I will google them myself.

BIG THANK YOU.

take a look at the nexus one from google. its an android phone that has got some good reviews. also HTC, they have some decent smart phones. i think that apple set the prices for the iphone, so you might notice that all of the major networks have very very similar deals. i think that they packages differ based on internet usage and wifi, some offering unlimited etc, but no real differences in tariff and price in terms of minutes and texts.

if you want a few deals to quote, go check out your local phones4u, they appear to have the best deals. the salesmen in their are quite sale centred so you can try bargain a deal to quote to your current provider!

i was thinking this exact thing as i just became aware of one such case local to me.

This is becoming a widespread issue in the uk. The thing is like you said the people in power cant read or write english. this is because the people who can most probably work, and cant devote much time to giving full attention to the gurdwara sahib.

singh.. when you emailed them did they acknowledge receipt or have they responded in any way?

proud and big headed about what?

it seems like the channel is being run as a business, rather then a community channel. if the person is charge is a multi millionaire etc, he must be a business man by nature. all he would care about would be the bottom line figures.

iv watched the channel a few times and the programmes to me seem shabbily produced, indicating that the money they are collecting through direct debits is not being put back into programming.

Have you considered doing any charity work?

or maybe you could work for free and try to get some experience and exposure, it will help you get a job with some experience under your belt.

and on your other problem, thats not really your fault, its the hindu mindset people have, youve done nothing wrong.

Listen, read, watch more bani. Find out the true meaning of bani by looking at english translations if your understanding is poor, thats what i do.

the more bani you listen to the stronger the persons character will become, and it will help the person deal with what has happened.

Who cares, its not like whether or not we can wear kirpans is in the hands of any kohli or any gora, who actually cares what a kurehiti or an athiest thinks about Sikhi?

your right, but its still bad publicity. Kohli appears to be a sikh just the same as all the rest of us in the public eye, he wears a dastaar just like you or me. If he questions wearing a kirpan then it might spark off further scrutiny about whether sikhs should be allowed to wear kirpans. If a sikh is saying its not necessary publicly then why would a law making gora believe sikhs need to wear a kirpan as part of their maryada. In that sense we should care what they think about sikhi

Your wasting your time dealing with such people, they will never change their minds.

advise them to go see a brahmin or pandit so they can embrace hinduism fully

If he has that much pyar for guru gobind singh ji to get a tattoo on his arm, why does the muppet shave his dhari

he has got to be the biggest arse goin

Hello Everyone,

It surprise to see everyone calling him a pervert, but at least he's not hiding behind any religious curtain. Well as Sikhs all you have to do is look at Taksal, its full perverts, children being molested. We all know what's happening there.

How comes no one mentions that on this forum?

nobody mentions that because its a fabrication of your mind

your response, aswell as the focus of this whole thread just goes to prove that sikhs are their own worst enemy

seems like all the people in the media intentionally write/say/ do things to piss people off, or to pamper to readers.

there is no other reason for them to write such stuff

this fat sharabi has no authority to pass judgement, he is just a fool

a guy wearing maharaj's dastar shouldnt be doin this:

it is spelt with a 'g' in english translation but in gurbani there is no 'gaga'

nice one thanks!

recently there was a thread referring to a katha by gyani thakur singh ji. it was about the manner in which maharaaj did simran to wake up a sleeping singh

does anyone have the mp3 of the katha

thanks

I didnt know up until your cryptic clue.......

some people are jus foolish and gullible

What gurdwara is it, do you know, or do u want to find out?