SikhSeeker

Thanks paaji, i will look into that

Its either crashed and the government don't want people to know, so they have made it into a "disappearance / terrorist" and can milk the situation so they can increase security measures etc.

Or its actually disappeared, as in completely gone off earth, which I think it has. To another dimension or something. It might sound far fetched, but a massive plane like that, with the tracking technology we have these days does not just go of the radar for this many days without something paranormal happening.

Airplanes just don't disappear. It hasn't gone towards India like they are saying as they would have known that before. It wasn't terrorists as no one has owned up to it. I highly doubt the pilots both wanted to kill themselves at the same time. There is no other explanation, but i'm sure the government or whoever will cover it up as a terrorist or suicide.

Where can you get the juice from?

Yes im on the green tea now. Its not the greatest taste

Many thanks for indepth info there paaji, its much appreciated!

Good news is that mprotien cla has 800mg cla per 1000mg

Bad news is the tablets contain gelatine!!

In fact majority of these tablet are gelatine coated.

I did come across cla powder

http://www.myprotein.com/sports-nutrition/cla-powder/10575141.html which has more cla and no gelatine.

Thanks for the advice paaji.

I was looking at these

http://www.myprotein.com/sports-nutrition/cla/10530408.html

Myprotein are pretty decent, its just I was told the tablets contain beef so ill keep looking if they do. They also have the powdered version which is for vegans, but im not sure is as good.

Is this the Natrols Tonalin you mentioned?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Natrol-incl-Laci-Tonalin-Sftgls/dp/B00005317T/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1392893689&sr=8-1&keywords=Natrol+Tonalin

The other thing I wanted to ask is you will not put the weight back on or anything if you stop using the cla?

My diet is ok, I have decent proiten and carbs everyday,I try to watch what I eat apart from one cheat day, will that cause any issues if i use cla?

Thanks again paaji

WJKK WJKF

Im trying to lean up and loose some fat and was told about CLA. Has anyone used this? Is it worth it and are there any side effects? I know some of the tablets contain beef but you can get the powered stuff which is veg.

Thanks

:laugh2: hahah that was so funny :lol: I highly doubt by getting a sikh on a TV game show will distract sikhs from the recent op bluestar inquiry.

I wouldn't put it past British, its worked on this forum, theres 2 pages about Roop Singh on this forum already

Ok, so what this means is both these do not know God.

Bhagat Nam Dev said he has "seen the Lord". He has seen him everywhere, so he is telling us where to find him.

I interpret the Hindu God bit "saw Ram had his wife killed" to show that they are not Gods. They also did things a human did (eg killing someone). They are not without fault either, only God is without blemish.

The Hindu is blind because he see's God in an idol, the Muslim is one eyed because he says God is outside of the universe, but they cannot see Waheguru within. The Gyani is one who is spiritually wise and enlightened, of no religion (Bhagat Ravidas, Bhagat Farid etc.).

The Gyani is wiser as they know God is not far away or in a rock. Look within and you will find him, God is close and near. Everything is a projection of him. The others worship him in a temple and consider it the "home" of God e.g.: Mecca. Yet if God is everywhere, how can he be bound to one spot? So Bhagat Nam Dev is saying God is everywhere, not just a temple.

"na koi Hindu na Musalman" applies here. Fundamentally, there is no religion. God doesn't care about your religion. Just saying you're a Sikh won't get you anywhere.

Great interpretation!!

WJKK WJKF

Could someone pls explain this Shabad

Thanks

This Shabad is by Bhagat Naam Dev Ji in Raag Gond on Pannaa 874
iblwvlu goNf ] bilaaval go(n)add || Bilaaval Gond: Awju nwmy bITlu dyiKAw mUrK ko smJwaU ry ] rhwau ] aaj naamae beet(h)al dhaekhiaa moorakh ko samajhaaoo rae || rehaao || Today, Naam Dayv saw the Lord, and so I will instruct the ignorant. ||Pause|| pWfy qumrI gwieqRI loDy kw Kyqu KwqI QI ] paa(n)ddae thumaree gaaeithree lodhhae kaa khaeth khaathee thhee || O Pandit, O religious scholar, your Gayatri was grazing in the fields. lY kir Tygw tgrI qorI lWgq lWgq jwqI QI ]1] lai kar t(h)aegaa ttagaree thoree laa(n)gath laa(n)gath jaathee thhee ||1|| Taking a stick, the farmer broke its leg, and now it walks with a limp. ||1|| pWfy qumrw mhwdyau Dauly bld ciVAw Awvqu dyiKAw Qw ] paa(n)ddae thumaraa mehaadhaeo dhhoulae baladh charriaa aavath dhaekhiaa thhaa|| O Pandit, I saw your great god Shiva, riding along on a white bull. modI ky Gr Kwxw pwkw vw kw lVkw mwirAw Qw ]2] modhee kae ghar khaanaa paakaa vaa kaa larrakaa maariaa thhaa ||2|| In the merchant's house, a banquet was prepared for him - he killed the merchant's son. ||2|| pWfy qumrw rwmcMdu so BI Awvqu dyiKAw Qw ] paa(n)ddae thumaraa raamacha(n)dh so bhee aavath dhaekhiaa thhaa || O Pandit, I saw your Raam Chand coming too rwvn syqI srbr hoeI Gr kI joie gvweI QI ]3] raavan saethee sarabar hoee ghar kee joe gavaaee thhee ||3|| ; he lost his wife, fighting a war against Raawan. ||3|| ihMdU AMn@w qurkU kwxw ] hi(n)dhoo a(n)nhaa thurakoo kaanaa || The Hindu is sightless; the Muslim has only one eye. duhW qy igAwnI isAwxw ] dhuhaa(n) thae giaanee siaanaa || The spiritual teacher is wiser than both of them. ihMdU pUjY dyhurw muslmwxu msIiq ] hi(n)dhoo poojai dhaehuraa musalamaan maseeth || The Hindu worships at the temple, the Muslim at the mosque. nwmy soeI syivAw jh dyhurw n msIiq ]4]3]7] naamae soee saeviaa jeh dhaehuraa n maseeth ||4||3||7|| Naam Dayv serves that Lord, who is not limited to either the temple or the mosque. ||4||3||7||

This makes more sense now, thanks alot

Khalsa Ji,

If one deliberately attempts to defraud someone, then the immoral earnings used to bring up the family, can have very bad effects, as per:

ਬ੍ਰਹਮਣ ਕੈਲੀ ਘਾਤੁ ਕੰਞਕਾ ਅਣਚਾਰੀ ਕਾ ਧਾਨੁ ॥

Barahmaṇ kailī gẖāṯ kañkā aṇcẖārī kā ḏẖān.

ਫਿਟਕ ਫਿਟਕਾ ਕੋੜੁ ਬਦੀਆ ਸਦਾ ਸਦਾ ਅਭਿਮਾਨੁ ॥

Fitak fitkā koṛ baḏī▫ā saḏā saḏā abẖimān.

ANG: 1413 SGGS

Living off immoral earnings will affect whosoever consumes the same.....

Waheguru....

So if a child lives of his parents immoral earnings, without the knowledge of it being immoral, then will they still get paap?

Thanks for that. Have you ordered from here before?

From Uk Singh. I've tried Holland and Barrett they dont have them!!

Its for an inhouse magazine for the company. It can be a few paragraphs.

Thanks

mate, see a doctor, dont use forums for medical issues.

lol i am dont worry, just thought u lot might have some desi remedies that you might have used in the past

All Gurus had power to perform miracles, and it yes if you read the Sakhis you will see this. Gurbani is a massive power as its Waheguruji's word.

Also Sikhs are still practising after all the Moguls tried to kill us off, all the wars we have been in, all the sacrifices from then upto even today from governments and other religions trying to kill us off, yet we are still here. What's more show of power from the Gurus than that?

Yes, I have been listening to it, but I wanted to try it myself, but I know it will take me a while to recite the whole Parth so I wanted to start with 50 Pauris one day and gradually increase after. I didnt know if this was allowed or not is all