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The Baba's 'got moves'

hahaha

Original gangsta ))))))))))))))

this week cant wait ohhh and the langar will be good u let us know what u want

Wuts was Icky's favorite food?

:lol: have that as langar

The goggles are designed to protect the impact of a plastic paintball which is designed to explode on impact, not a concrete floor at high speeds. Everything has a threshold and that must be adhered to and respected.

If you intend to ride at high speeds, then I wouldnt go out with less than full leathers and a helmet.

Gurfateh ji.

Gurbar Akaal.

Thank you, you're right, I gave 'dodgy' advice, without thinking I'll edit my post.

Gurfateh ji

haha i get what u mean, when i lok at the 2nd pic

I deffo think so - haha

look at the one of Niddar again, he is standing and the jaterdar is sittign yet they are at the same hieight and all the SInghs in the backgraound are standing.

The same with the Amrit one- hahah

Not an expert in photography, but the images of Nihang Nidar with the new Jatherdar and the one of Amrit Singh with the jatherdar look super imposed. i.e their photos have been put on after- hahahah

Not saying threy weren't there or didn't meet the new jatherdar, just saying that the photos look dodgy

hahaha

Waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki Fateh ji

eidited as i gave dodgy advice, I've never rode a motorboike in my life so can't give advice, but be sensible

Waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki Fateh ji

It says Sanjha Smagam, but at the moment only dates for rain-sbai have been given.

Will there be other programmes happening in the week?

If so, pls let us know, also 'just a suggestion' but if other programmes are happening in the week then maybe do those at other Gurdwaras in Birmingham etc, so more sangat can attend and more Gurdwaras are involved, this will also help in ekta :0

Just a suggestion,

Waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki Fateh

Waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki Fateh ji

I fully sympathise with this case, and it is bad.

It seems even more strange, because the expereince i have had at usa airports is postive.

I am from uk, but travel alot. I have always tried to get through with my siri sahib (hidden) etc. I have had various expereinces.

Once on a stop over at Minniaplois last yr, the security found my siri sahib with their beeper wand. I was fearing the worst as this is a smaller airport in comparasion to san francisco, new york etc.

However, all the staff had been briefed on siri sahibs, the security guard straight away reassured me and said, ' i no this is for religion, but you can't wear it on board, but i will not touch it' her supervisor then came over and was very nice, they did not touch it and allowed me to return to check in and check it into my bags. All the way through they were very sensitive and did not give me any trouble, they said they had been briefed about dealing with sikh passengers etc.

Turbans Removed in Public and Placed Through Airport X-Ray Scanner

San Francisco, California - Screeners at San Francisco International Airport recently forced a Sikh man to remove his turban in public, place it in a bin, and then ran it through an x-ray machine last week, providing another example of how the Transportation Security Administration’s new screening policies do not keep America safe. The Sikh Coalition, the nation's largest Sikh civil rights organization, remains concerned that the TSA’s hastily-conceived headwear search policy endangers all Americans by focusing critical security resources on non-existent threats.

“If You Don’t Do it, I’ll Have You Escorted Out”

On August 23, 2007, Charanjit Singh Ghai’s trip from San Francisco to London became a nightmare. Charanjit was accompanying his daughter, a political science student at University of California Berkeley, to London for her semester abroad.

At the airport, Charanjit was able to successfully walk through a metal detector without sounding an alarm. Once he had cleared security and was waiting for his bags, a TSA screener tapped his shoulder and told him that his turban would nevertheless need to be patted down. He was surprised by the screener’s demand, especially since his mini-turban was more akin to a simple patka (a square cloth tied tightly over the head) than a turban. He asked the screener and her supervisor that his turban instead be checked with a hand-held wand. The supervisor replied that wanding was not possible for turbans and that a turban pat down was “mandatory.”

The supervisor threatened Charanjit: “If you don’t do it, I’ll have you escorted out.”

Under pressure, confused and distressed by the idea of having his turban touched by anyone else, Charanjit offered to remove his turban quickly to show he was not hiding anything. After he removed his turban, the supervisor insisted that he also be able to pat down Charanjit’s hair. Charanjit was shamefully forced to untie his hair in public view.

“This exercise was all done to demean me. It was unbearable.”

Charanjit Singh to the Sikh Coalition’s staff attorneys.

Again the supervisor threatened him, “If you don’t do it, I’ll have you escorted out.”

Standing with his head naked, Charanjit stood and waited as the supervisor humiliated him by placing his small cloth turban in a bin and through an x-ray machine. Charanjit’s shirt or pants, which both consisted of more cloth than his turban, were spared the X-ray machine.

“This exercise was all done to demean me,” Charanjit told the Sikh Coalition’s team of staff attorneys. “It was unbearable.”

An Ineffective Policy

The disgraceful public undressing of Charanjit Singh is a disturbing example of extreme but permissible conduct under the TSA’s new headdress policy. What happened to this proud Sikh man was not only hurtful to the whole Sikh community, but also diverted America’s resources away from genuine security threats.

While the Sikh Coalition is grateful that TSA’s top leadership is willing to find a “workable solution” to Sikh concerns about the policy, the Coalition remains troubled that the new headwear screening policy still remains in effect.

The Sikh Coalition is hopeful that its engagement with the TSA, along with other Sikh and non-Sikh organizations, will lead to a solution similar to the screening procedures put in place soon after the 9/11 attacks. Shortly after the 9/11 attacks in New York and Washington, D.C. Sikh community groups worked closely with Department of Transportation officials to devise an airport screening protocol that would meet national security requirements, while safeguarding religious pluralism.

The Coalition will keep the community updated as our engagement with the TSA deepens. In the meantime, we continue to ask everyone to sign the community petition to Secretary Chertoff as a means of demonstrating grassroots concern with the new screening procedures, and to document your experience with the new screening procedures.

Sikh's Turban Removed in Public and Scanned

Wwaheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki Fateh ji

Great about the programme.

There's also a youth prog happenign the week before in slough, the sikhi camp reunion, alot of sangat mainly nawjawan will be coming to this.

Would it make more sense to combine the programmes and have one massive youth prog in Slough?

That would be great, can the organisers of both progs think about this :lol:

vaheguroo ji ka khalsa

vaheguroo ji ke fatehh..

Guroo Maharaj Ji, De Piaari Saad Sangat ji,

The sevadaars of slough have organised a 4th Youth Keertan Darbaar, In Loving Memory Of Bibi Pritam Kaur Ji (Sant Baba Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale jis Singhnee) (Wife) and the opeing of the Khalsa School in Slough on the 6th of Oct

At Khalsa School Wexham Road Slough

5.00 till 9.00

poster will be on soon

if any one wants to do kirtan on night most welcome jus pm me orr E-mail at suki_t@hotmail.co.uk

Benti to ALL to come and join the Sangat of Slough, more information about Keertani Jaths to Follow, alongside More Details...

Bhul Chuk Maaf Karni

Vaheguroo Ji Ka Khalsa

Vaheguroo Ji Ke Fateh..

Wwaheguru

The sacking of these two is not 'strict'.

Thats teh easy option,

I can think of much harsher treatment

Guru Maraj only you can save your panth

If you use a computer as part of your job then you are allowed 15 minute breaks after every 3 hours ish i believe. So browsing the internet every now and then or sikhsangat is not dis honest as long as your work doesnt suffer.

Waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki Fateh ji

I am one of the guilty ones, who passeses time at work by sufing the net (includign sikh sangat) I also use works printers to print out personnel stuff etc

I also email sangat during work time (((((((

ahhhhhhhhhhhh- i never thought of it as dishonest (((((

(((((( man ((((((((((((

Happy Birthday - Big sis

Loads of luv

Paavun Kaur - See you soon :wub: ))))))))))))

Edited, can't be a@@@@.

It's all good :wub:

Waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki Fateh.

The equalities officer where I work is doing a piece on india partition in 1947 for the staff newletter.

he has asked for input from myself.

Are there any good websites that give a view of partition particurly from a sikh prespective.

Pls help, thsi is a good opp to do parchar to non sikhs

Waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki Fateh

Waheguru ji ka khalsa,waheguru ji ki Fateh ji

Good prog,sounds like a new way of doign parchar. Also good to c so many orgs supporting it and coming together

However(no offence to anyone pls).Just need to be a bit careful with the whole 'keep your hair for 40 days' and the way this is 'sold'on the day in the lectures.

It could come across that it's an achiecvment to keep kesh for 40 days and then wut happens if the same ppl then cut it! after the 40 days

Muslims and others do 'fasting,not cutting hair etc'for periods of time and the ones i have talked too think that by doing somethign for a period of time will benefit them greatly but then they go back to their old ways.

As sikhi is practical way of life, we should be saying 'international keep your kesh day forever'

I deff understand the logic that with Guru's kirpa if someone does take a small step for 40 days then anything is possible.

However Gursikhs pls be careful with saying 'keep your kesh 4o days' don't want this coming riutalistic

Apologies,i don't want to offend the oganisers as progslike this take alot fo effort to organisers

Waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji kiFatehjio

Gurfateh ji

Be careful when taking Gutka Sahib.

At security in this country, it has been known for the staff to open up Gutka sahibs to 'search' .

Also in uzbekistan (if u are changing flights, their security luggae screening is on the floor, so all the bags go along the floor including your gutka sahib (even if you have it in a handbag type of thing around your waist)

As these guys speak no english, it's hard to reason with them.

As another Singh said, buy one in amritser

Gurfateh

where are we heading?

When was the date of this gig?

Look at the sponsors, you've got mainstream asian orgs like zee tv, eastern times etc. but also the Sikh Times, how can the Sikh Times promote this manmatt???????????????

Gurfateh.

if the facts as outlined here are correct, then's its not really a victory.

Some Singhs in the Midlands had a case with a major football stadium not letting in Kirpans last yr

the SInghs sat down with them. The intital problem was that there was no other policies or case studies to guide them., so this particurlar club had to make their own descision (FA, football licensing, police etc left the desicision with them).

Bascially they came up with a really good policy, that can also be used in other cases.

If a football club allows siri shaibs in, where there is a history of violeence on terreaces, then to me that is a good step, and the same logic for that can be used elsewhere.

One thing through that particurlar case, was the Singhs never compromised, it took months of negiotian, but Guru's kirpa, things worked.

Thus my point is, never compromise on these issues, and have a look at other policy etc.

Gurfateh ji

Leh, u fakes

some of those aren't true Chamkaurs massive.

i.e Cov lot who only eat there once in a blue moon or when they are whining and dining the freshies ))

The real Chamkaur massive are the gupt Singhs who eat there every day :umm: ))))))))))))

That's the real Chamkaur Jatha

Open ya own up in cOV - U fakes

It's all Gur

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quote name=tarunjeet singh' date='May 10 2007, 06:29 AM' post='253634]

CHAMKAURS MASSIVE

BASS THE SPICE QUEEN

KUMI WHOS EYES ARE BIGGER THAN HIS STOMACH

TARUNJEET <<McDADDY OF CHAMKAURS

MURPHY AKA NIBBLER

JASSA AKA HOOVER

JATTY AKA FATTY

GAV AKA WANNA BE Mc DADDY

CHAMKAURS MASSIVE YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE WITH THE ELASTICATED KASHERAS

Gurfateh

I got an email about sikh police wearing helmits soem time ago (i will try and find it).

I think it's just for riot situations as at present officers can't go into riot situations without helmits.

There was a consultation about it, wil ltry and find the email

Gurfateh

Email BOSS (British org of sikh students)

http://www.boss-uk.org/

Hope this helps

Gurfateh

i came back from amritser last yr.

There were a few of us, all Amritdhari Gursikhs.

2 of them had full bana on, i had western clothes but big damalla plus Guru di kirpa, i got a massive dhari

Anyway we all got through no hassle, Guru di kirpa, got our siri sahibs through too. (hidden)

I've been through lots of airports, personnally (all Gurus kirpa) i thought amritsar was one fo the easiet to get through and keeping panj kakkar on.

Waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki Fateh jio

The pics are quite shocking,

but before everyone rings up, protests start etc,

let Nihang Vikramdeep Singh have the mtg and see what they say, maybe with Guru's kirpa, he can try and educate them about respect and looking after religous scriptious properly (if at all).

From expereince, public bodies are more likely to listen to reason if explained in a dignified manner.

if they don't, then by all means other ways can be looked at inlcudign putting more pressure on them, but 1st have a educated dialogue wih them

Nihang Vikram Singh, pls keep the sangat informed.

Waheguru ji ka khalsa, wahegurur ji ki Fateh

Ultimate warrier and Macho man Randy savage (man I'm showing my age)

So hows about Passport office and I heard that Fauja Singh(the adidas one) wasn't allowed on to London Eye, even at an Adidas event

i think passport situation has been resolved, London eye still ongoing.