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Did anyone else see a hint of promoting Hindu thought by the person in the video is sitting and holding mudra poses. This is a clear distortion of what Satnaam Vaheguru's understanding is. Through Gurbani Gurmat teaches satnaam vaheguru teaches against mudras. This clearly shows the person who added the video to Satnaam Vaheguru has a distorted understanding of Satnaam Vaheguru.

I didn't notice it dude, but you can knock yourself out- take it up to the dude who uploaded the video on youtube.

I am talking about the concept of free speech and not individual behavior, something that eludes you.

So far it's the leftists that have attacked the freedom of speech of Trump supporters by outright attacking his rally in Chicago and blocking highways to his rally in Arizona.

If Trump comes to power more then likely NAFTA would be ratified or repealed. Once that happens, Canadians are going to get a huge economic drop kick up their arrogant back sides.

Yea what good is concept if no one is following it , anyway i can't wait for mexican refugee fully integrated into canadian soceity end up working in canadian border services handling condescending arrogant americans trump supporter papers telling them- line is over there, get in the que, it will surely take a smirk off their faces!!!!.. As they say- divine works in mysterious ways.

When you attach qualifiers to speech, it is no more free. It's either free or not. There are no two ways about it. It's that simple. That is why the Americans created a super power in a short span of 200 years. Canada wouldn't survive a day without the free security it receives from the US.

Large numbers of people like you will eventually regress Canada to a 3rd world dump.

Yea ok dude, lets see if someone can get away with looking into trump eyes infront of his supporters, telling him off with finger squarely, lets see if trump supporter bow down and respect their "freedom of speech" concept. We all saw what happened in the rallies, so take that trumphet of freedom of speech song and shove it where it doesn't shine as obviously trump supporters dont believe in practically when its not convenient for them..!!

Basically you are asking for censorship. If you crave censorship so much, feel free to pack your bags and go live among your own kind in India. Basically you are asking for censorship. If you crave censorship so much, feel free to pack your bags and go live among your own kind in India.

In the US there is something called the Right to Free speech or the First Amendment. The right to free speech means you can pretty much say anything, short of yelling fire in a theater and making bomb jokes in an airport, you have that right. The Constitution protects everyone, Gays, Nazi, KKK, Black Panthers. No matter how offensive ones speech is, you have that right. To quote Voltaire, "I disapprove what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it". This is how Americans built their nation and that is how in a short span of 200 years they achieved something a country like India could never achieve in 10,000 years. Americans of different variety (Mormons, Protestants, Catholics, Irish, Italians....) could live under this rule and prosper but now we have recent immigrants like yourself challenging the status quo. This right here is the problem.

​If you think the problem will just go away if Trump drops out, you are sadly mistaken. No people in any nation around the world will allow their country to be reshaped.

Well i am not in america, but if he was here in our north canadian side, he would have gotten few law suits by now, be summoned in human rights tribunal, banned from our border services.. Freedom of speech is one thing, spreading inciting hate is another that no longer is freedom of speech but rather hate speech and we have hate speech laws in this country to protect all. No thanks about India. I am staying right here in canada may be we will finish building walls to keep away from trump die hard supporters before you guys do and same time accept all the people from states who does not want to stay in states if trump wins.

does anything matter in this life??

good or bad.?

gurbani says nothing is real etc but then if nothing is real ,is what we do real ,does it matter?whether we do good or bad,if we are happy or un happy,if someone causes us heartache or makes us smile

what matters !!??

Gurbani says nothing is real so that we can de-attached from world seen as separate entity and gurbani says it so it can take us outside of maya then its more of meditative experience rather than conceptual, theological or philosophical statement. Its rather an spiritual stage in one life where world appears like a dream/not real as eternal witness- our true self seems more real than what is being witnessed, until the duality of what's being seen-witnessed and seer-witness is gone true purpose of life - absolute truth realization cannot takes place which is everything is god including world. Absolute true (Sat) realization transcendent both good and bad, there is no good and bad as per gurbani from absolute point of view (non duality gurbani stance).

Trump wouldn't be so much of a problem if he can speak in a responsible way so that his many wacky garden variety of followers don't get carried away and start abusing, restoring to violence to other protesters including attacking sikhs mistaken for muslims or innocent muslims. There is a indirect evidence, when trump made muslims speech, sikh at convenience store and innocent muslims were hatefully targeted by racist. Trump is not directly responsible for this off course but he is definitely creating easy environment for all kind of racist, closet racist, fascist etc etc.

I don't mind right wing conservative policies at times to handle other religious right wing goons, extreme lefty but as long as they can be assertive, firm and responsible and have careful crafted firm policies like policies by david cameron implemented not like fear monger, affected with extreme hysteria, irresponsible, dictatorship quality politician.

So do we need trump to destroy islamic fascist threat? Hell yes, but do rest of world need trump? no way but do make him navy commander to have him deal with islamic terrorist along with putin in middle east.

Akaal purkh creates bigger nuts to deal with rest of nuts before consuming both of them into KAAL. Pure khed of akaal purkh happening here.

There are no rigid rules as such one should be celibate or gristhi as everyone has different karam, many are give gristh jevan handful of them are not, its balance in universe also known as aspect of hakum, some despite of gristh jevan cant have kids and are baren, their gristhi jeevan turns out to be half futile. The minute we start super imposing one brush or one rule on entire human race not only we undermine diverse hakum of akaal purkh which is always unfolding in the eternal present moment- here and now but we also become spiritually bankrupt.

Nanaksar started off as celibate sect but its quite diverse as many jathedars who were inspired by baba nand singh allowed gristhi jevan singhs in their jatha as time evolved so there is no rule as such in nanaksar one have to be celibate.

Good kavita, sometimes it takes an outsider to send a strong message to sikhs to wake up. While I am quite hopeful, this video will hit deep and resonate with lot. Unfortunately, main issue with sikhs today is our own vanity-anakh. Our own vanity-anakh is our worst internal enemy. Even the old saying, no one can destroy iron (sikh), only other iron(sikh) can destroy sikh.

Here is the dasam patsah wisdom regardng false pride:

Dasam Guru Granth Sahib doesn't give date of end of the world in terms of prophecy all though it does mention about kalki avtar. It does talk about, metaphysics of creation and destruction of the world including of kalki. That could be looked both from both externally and one's internal life -birth of ignorance(avidya) and death of avidya- bhramgyan parloa.

Remember what is outside and is inside. Everything mentioned in gurbani have deeper esoteric gnosis interpretation (deep antriv arths):

ਜੋ ਬਰਹਮੰਡੇ ਸੋਈ ਪਿੰਡੇ ਜੋ ਖੋਜੈ ਸੋ ਪਾਵੈ ॥
जो बढ़रहमंडे सोई पिंडे जो खोजै सो पावै ॥

The One who pervades the Universe also dwells in the body; whoever seeks Him, finds Him there.

Haan ji, i totally agree with your statement below, if it effortlessly unexpectedly come in your consciousness thats beautiful its as form of divine insight or expression itself. Ego usually resumes after pure experience is over. While one real consciouness is being with absolute truth (Sat) Vahiguru himself there is no ego there as sat has taken our core being/center being and ego has taken a back seat.

When a spiritual experience occurs you do not realise that you were actually praying for it. Everything which we have has been given to us by God himself. Even this human life has been given to us by God

In my experience, many males falls into same trap . I don't think ego distinguishes between gender. That's why sikhi beleives in JOT in all of us which underpins both gender realization not some condioned superimposed gender realization.

Owning spiritual experience, expecting spiritual experience and craving for same experience again and again has nothing to do with females or males but its just a nature of ego , egoic human nature as ego which affects both genders. Ego has subtle forms of being always in control ,anticipating some sort of spiritual experience,and maintain ing certain bliss full state contrary to effortless simran meditation -sehaj avastha.

Gurbani sublime message below should provide great clarity in this matter, any experienceable or seen/form is not real unless one experiences full unity between seen/seer. Seen(drish) is not real but seer is (Dristha) which is non dual pure awareness/knowledge(JOT) in all of us, if one fully establish yourself in it (also known as shabad gyan/maha vak) and indentify with it, realize it- game and separate struggle is over:

Only IKONGKAR- Absolute Truth (non dual pure awareness-JOT) in all of us endures and remains and in that Absolute there are no relative realities its all ONE non dual advait-Absoulte so whatever is seen or experienced is not separate reality its not seperate as relative reality but as one Absolute-ikongkar!

Beautiful shabad below spoken from ABSOLUTE REALITY AND TRUTH:

http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=736&punjabi=t&id=31585#l31585

ਦ੍ਰਿਸਟਿਮਾਨ ਸਭੁ ਬਿਨਸੀਐ ਕਿਆ ਲਗਹਿ ਗਵਾਰ ॥੨॥ द्रिसटिमान सभु बिनसीऐ किआ लगहि गवार ॥२॥

Ḏaristimān sabẖ binsī▫ai ki▫ā lagėh gavār. ||2||

All that is seen shall perish. Why are you attached to it, you fool? ||2||

http://www.srigranth...id=31585#l31585

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥ ੴ सतिगुर प्रसादि ॥

Ik▫oaʼnkār saṯgur parsāḏ.

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

ਬਾਜੀਗਰਿ ਜੈਸੇ ਬਾਜੀ ਪਾਈ ॥ बाजीगरि जैसे बाजी पाई ॥

Bājīgar jaise bājī pā▫ī. The actor stages the play,

ਨਾਨਾ ਰੂਪ ਭੇਖ ਦਿਖਲਾਈ ॥ नाना रूप भेख दिखलाई ॥ Nānā rūp bẖekẖ ḏikẖlā▫ī.

playing the many characters in different costumes;

ਸਾਂਗੁ ਉਤਾਰਿ ਥੰਮ੍ਹ੍ਹਿਓ ਪਾਸਾਰਾ ॥ सांगु उतारि थम्हिओ पासारा ॥

Sāʼng uṯār thamiĥa▫o pāsārā. but when the play ends, he takes off the costumes,

ਤਬ ਏਕੋ ਏਕੰਕਾਰਾ ॥੧॥ तब एको एकंकारा ॥१॥

Ŧab eko ekankārā. ||1|| and then he is one, and only one. ||1||

ਕਵਨ ਰੂਪ ਦ੍ਰਿਸਟਿਓ ਬਿਨਸਾਇਓ ॥ कवन रूप द्रिसटिओ बिनसाइओ ॥

Kavan rūp ḏaristi▫o binsā▫i▫o.

How many forms and images appeared and disappeared?

ਕਤਹਿ ਗਇਓ ਉਹੁ ਕਤ ਤੇ ਆਇਓ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ कतहि गइओ उहु कत ते आइओ ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥ Kaṯėh ga▫i▫o uho kaṯ ṯe ā▫i▫o. ||1|| rahā▫o.

Where have they gone? Where did they come from? ||1||Pause||

ਜਲ ਤੇ ਊਠਹਿ ਅਨਿਕ ਤਰੰਗਾ ॥ जल ते ऊठहि अनिक तरंगा ॥ Jal ṯe ūṯẖėh anik ṯarangā.

Countless waves rise up from the water.

ਕਨਿਕ ਭੂਖਨ ਕੀਨੇ ਬਹੁ ਰੰਗਾ ॥ कनिक भूखन कीने बहु रंगा ॥

Kanik bẖūkẖan kīne baho rangā. Jewels and ornaments of many different forms are fashioned from gold.

ਬੀਜੁ ਬੀਜਿ ਦੇਖਿਓ ਬਹੁ ਪਰਕਾਰਾ ॥ बीजु बीजि देखिओ बहु परकारा ॥

Bīj bīj ḏekẖi▫o baho parkārā. I have seen seeds of all kinds being planted -

ਫਲ ਪਾਕੇ ਤੇ ਏਕੰਕਾਰਾ ॥੨॥ फल पाके ते एकंकारा ॥२॥ Fal pāke ṯe ekankārā. ||2||

when the fruit ripens, the seeds appear in the same form as the original. ||2||

ਸਹਸ ਘਟਾ ਮਹਿ ਏਕੁ ਆਕਾਸੁ ॥ सहस घटा महि एकु आकासु ॥ Sahas gẖatā mėh ek ākās.

The one sky is reflected in thousands of water jugs,

ਘਟ ਫੂਟੇ ਤੇ ਓਹੀ ਪ੍ਰਗਾਸੁ ॥ घट फूटे ते ओही प्रगासु ॥

Gẖat fūte ṯe ohī pargās. but when the jugs are broken, only the sky remains.

ਭਰਮ ਲੋਭ ਮੋਹ ਮਾਇਆ ਵਿਕਾਰ ॥ भरम लोभ मोह माइआ विकार ॥

Bẖaram lobẖ moh mā▫i▫ā vikār. Doubt comes from greed, emotional attachment and the corruption of Maya.

ਭ੍ਰਮ ਛੂਟੇ ਤੇ ਏਕੰਕਾਰ ॥੩॥ भ्रम छूटे ते एकंकार ॥३॥ Bẖaram cẖẖūte ṯe ekankār. ||3||

Freed from doubt, one realizes the One Lord alone. ||3||

I admit that I was being a bit immature; and probably offended some Christians who might be reading this, (sorry to those Non-Sikh guests reading this);

Do you realize on absolute truth (essence of Gurmat) level - Satguru is universal eternal consciousness*(* check japji sahib teek by sant gurbachan singh bhindranwale) which exist in all of us so as far as i m concerned i don't think really sikhs or any religion, group, your garden variety of "ism"/belief system/ organized spiritual school of thoughts all kinds of rigid religious spiritual goons put together don't have any ownership on consciousness whatsoever as its not practically possible even if we think we do as pure eternal consciousness is changeless background- consciousness of all sentient being where thoughts arises and subsides ..!!

Police arrest two more in connection to Sikh Temple brawl

http://www.turlockjournal.com/m/section/15/article/31077/

Good job, good riddance. They should be deported to a country with biggest monkey population which i just searched is brazil, so they can fight with monkeys as their dristhi is stuck at sub human level at bandar dristhi(vision) of fighting.

How would you explain what "shabad guru" is to a person doesn't know much about sikhi in the context of the question was Guru Nanak God?

To me I can explain it very easily to a muslim or any other non-sikh because I don't believe Guru Ji was God in human form. I believe, from evidence from scriptures, that Guru Ji was speaking the reality and truth of God through his actions by showing the light of his magnetic preaching ability and brief powers God had given him to guide humanity to Sikhi.

Shabad guru has mool (root) which is essence of shabad guru- shabad gyan- pure knowledge consciousness/awareness common matrix - changeless background - consciousness-surat of every human being in which world/form appears and disappear.

They may not be able to relate to term shabad guru but they can relate shabad guru essence which is shabad gyan/ universal pure awareness/consciouness in all of us as sri guru nanak dev ji says:

This topic about Sri guru nanak dev was god or not should be looked at from non duality (impersonal god- non dual all in one, one in all) - advait/advai stand point not duality. Doubts arises only when we discuss this topic in duality.

There are many who would confine sri guru nanak dev ji only sargun saroop satguru (personal god) only. From devotional stand point, its perfectly fine and parvan in gurmat as an spiritual development stage in one's life but from gurmat tat (essence), debate or vichar with other mats this cause all kinds of fundamental theological issues like, we get stuck same way abhramic religions are stuck in duality.

They can simply pose a question- playing devil advocate here as to if satguru nanak dev ji (figure head form- personal god) is permanent then how come he is not in our everyone every moment experience or not in our deep sleep experience?

At that point, we should be able to explain it to them that ultimately satguru nanak dev ji is not confined to form- personal god only, he appear as form and disappear as form to help other human attach with their real self- god. That the real absolute saroop of satguru nanak dev ji is formless gyan saroop - Ikongkar- pure knowledge consciousness/awareness is common matrix of everyone's experience, as it is One changeless/permanent being which is always eternal unchanging timeless permanent, ek ras/akhand- consistent unbroken current pure consciousness which exist in our direct experience in every moment/directly experienced in all three states (awake, dream and sleep) and even when we all gone to deep sleep every day as it gives our consciousness (surat) knowledge that sleep was good/sleep was refreshing/feeling of freshness every day.

Gur Fateh Jio

What is the gurbanis explanation on this?

It all depends on the intention of the individual if its pure or not. We should not judged does not matter who they are may be not for their own sake but for our own spiritual development sake. Otherwise not only we be morally bankrupt but spiritually bankrupt as well.

Gurbani vakhs posted above giving updesh- discourse raising people consciousness to real tat- giving updesh, it for organized sects (in india) believe in dancing to attain god and also conditioned mind who believes by dancing - lord can be attained.

Its not rejecting spontaneous effortless movements, body jolting, shaking, dancing come out of sheer bliss-vismaad, surat- one consciousness transcending towards higher states of consciousness. Its careful slippery slope as one condioned mind can easily fixated themselves to-Altered states of consciousness and any ritual can fall right into dogma/pakhand if its done to show off- fakeness/ following trend with no feeling/fixation to feel good rather than discover sat about themselves.

Enforcing -Altered states through simran (be it done in akj samagam or 3ho or namdhari or taksal or rara sahib or nanaksar/nihang/pkj wherever is done) is maya, ultimately discouraged. But off course its ego human conditioning that ego wants to feel good by trying those alterating states through simran, but truth(essence of Gurmat) is not confined in these alterted states, truth is effortless choiceless liv (unbroken current of shabad/shabad gyan/pure consciousness). Don't get me wrong i wouldn't call these altered states as manmat as its good to get taste of ras- anand at alterated states of simran intially to give jump start- encouragement to go beyond but caution needs to paid by individuals as one can easily get stuck in altered states/pointers by fixated on them which can easily turn into hindrance in one spiritual soul development.

Most people are pushed away from sikhi not because they find faults in sikhi (sikhi is flawless dharam), but rather the way its presented to them by our community with its own cultural political divisive baggage.. It's bit unfortunate they were unable to see pure truth -sat - sikhi behind all baggage.They cannot be fully blamed for it as partial blame lies also lack of parchar and our sub standard collective consciousness of our community which has gone slumber down totally contrary to gurmat ideals enshrined in akaal ustat/gurbani.

Sikhi is turiya (fourth dimension- non dual pure consciousness knowledge ) path its total non dual way of being, cannot be confined to only cultural baggage/community/judeo abhramic notions etc.