As far as im concerned they aint Sikhz as da Akal Thakt states,the majority of u in support of thm shuld hang their heads in shame go n read the definition of a Sikh,i dnt c no difference in wht was happenin wiv ramanand in his dera which had presence of SGGS ji and this twisted cult u manz r callin sikhs.no1 cn justify matha tekh to a human in the presence of mahrahj