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4 hours ago, Destruction said:

For me sikhawareness is a great forum, the amount of knowledge on those topics, real discussion and not a debate with limitations of what you can say.

I swear everyone who says this while bashing other sites comes off as a pretentious hipster who only dines at the most organic and most raw vegan lettuce restaurants. 

Both are good 

12 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

Three things: 

One: Some women have become so expert with the 'war paint' that they can make themselves look really attractive with it but when it comes off - the opposite is true. This ain't fair on guys who get conned into being with someone who is essentially wearing a mask that is nothing like their true physical self - with the ensuing confusion and shock with the mask is removed. 

Second thing: People don't wan't to end up like Jagsaw, who obviously looks at other people's attractive wives and then looks at his own, and then falls into depression. Everyone should make efforts to keep themselves in good, presentable shape. Same way a Singh shouldn't get married, get too comfortable and let go, and turn into a bloated lard ar5ed, beached whale - now that he has 'captured' his missus.

Lastly: As dyslexia is to writing, and dyscalculia to maths skills,  a helluva lot of Sikh women seem to have some condition with renders them completely incapable of utilising make up products in any balanced way. Their choice of colours (usually bright and the opposite of subtle, pretty much like a farmers bhangra paa-ing outfit) coupled with the share amount of product they use can often lead to them looking like this (see image below - you know we've all seen aunties that look exactly like this!). If they must use it, many need to be trained on how to do so, so the whole endeavour doesn't become self-defeating. Less is more in this respect. 

I haven't cried of laughter reading something on Sikh Sangat in a while. Last thing I remember was by Mehtab Singh paji

People opposing missionaries should know that these missionary thugs objectives are to cause both mental and physical chaos. Shouldn't feed it and instead should write articles, papers and do ground community work to ensure that in the future these nastiks pipeline is cut long-term.

Here in Fresno it's a bunch of communist atheists on Gurdwara committee who continuously call these idiots, but their kids don't know simple Oorda aarda and thus the pipeline that fuels these idiots won't be sustained over a long period of time. All the youth that are into Sikhi don't mess with these missionary thugs paid off by agencies.

58 minutes ago, S1ngh said:

one word - elitism

Same word comes to mind. Education and rationality are a tenent of Sikhi, but the trend in the generation before us demeans the word education. Their definition of education is Dr, Lawyer or Engineer. 

Baba Farid was the 6th dera head of the dera started by Baba Farid Shakarganj and was a contemporary to Guru Nanak Dev Ji thus Bhagat Farid Ji was a Gurmukh contemporary to Guru Nanak Dev Ji.

@Bijla Singh could shed more light

It's all a load of baloney

On 3/23/2017 at 5:00 AM, Jonny101 said:

Alot of people assume that one kid equals high quality and healthy  while more kids equals low quality, malnutrition etc

But if we look at our ithihas, the reverse is true. During puratan times, when Sikhs had a lot of kids they were more religiously observant(which means high quality) and they were more physically fit than us. Now when we have only one kid, our parents fail to raise that kid as a Sikh(meaning low quality) and they also tend to be fat kids on average which is not healthy either. 

 

So here we are, today we are raising low quality and unhealthy fat kids when we have the lowest fertility rates in our history which is well below replacement level.  Meaning, in future our population will start to decrease because of this low fertility rate.

Well said brotha

5 minutes ago, genie said:

as the famous alt-right homosexual milo says "feminism is cancer" I would very much agree with that statement.

All these so called Sikh womens events are funded by atheist white oligarch western government funded hands out most of the time whose agenda is depopulation especially of patriarchal minority communities so they encourage the cancerous feminism ideology, they promote abortions, they promote having less kids, being career women, neglecting their household duties, not looking after the eldery, sending kids off to be looked after child minders instead of doing their natural role as a mother to nurture their offspring.

The rich elites have studied civilizations and have done analysis how when matriarchal females ran societies then those societies collapsed very quickly and got taken over by more successful male dominated patriarchal movements.

If you do analysis of history then you will come to some very stark conclusions......women are the destroyers of civilizations and men are the creators of them. Women are the child bears and homemakers of humanity and men are the seeders and providers. When the natural order is disturbed then you get a collapse of demographics and social cohesion as we are witnessing in the west in the white hedonistic atheist/christian/jewish population. Putins russia has analysed all the social ills of their demographic problem and have started to ban homosexuality being promoted to under 18s have started to clamp down on the cancerous feminist ideology and have started to promote traditional patriarchal family values to boost their disastrous demographic situation.

What Sikh leaders and organisations need to understand is that action needs to be taken to promote traditional family values and empower REAL Sikh women and REAL sikh orgs that focuses on patriarchal model and not that cancerous feminist one that will ruin generations to come.

Took the words right out of my mouth. 

Also look up Christina Hoff Sommers. She's a god in disproving gender wage Gap and modern day feminism. 

6 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

I'd say caution is warranted here, given a full century of outright manipulation of dumb Sikhs in the British military. These people play us so well, they'll have hordes of poor peasants jumping around like dimwitted poster boys if we aren't careful. They did it before, so it wouldn't be the first time. 

If you want to learn how to use a gun, go to a gun range. 

I don't remember who told me perhaps it was my uncle but the main problem with many Sikhs in the military is that in general we are honest and not cut throat. Someone mentioned that an individual in the military had noticed this and thus he claimed that one Sikh in particular along with other Sikhs weren't savvy enough with politics to rise the ranks even though that particular individual more than deserved it. This is an important tactic even more so than being able to shoot a gun. 

What I'm saying is your service is what yoy personally make it because there are rules and regulations in every western country and if something occurs that isn't just, you have the power to shed light on it. 

I agree with not being manipulated but I don't think the solution is to not join the military at all nor do I think it would help change that mentality.

5 hours ago, genie said:

works for me try again.

Military service is good thing I'm not against it. What I'm against is the agreement/covenant without anything in return for British Sikhs and the wider global Sikh community

I am specifically talking about Sikhs fighting for british army and state not Sikhs of other countries or India they have their own issues that need addressing on a separate thread.

I'm talking about Sikhs who are alleged to signed an agreement with the british army to fight for QUEEN and country. To fight for the UK is fair enough as thats their home so they are fighting in defence of their nation but to fight for Queen? No thanks...

To fight for illegal wars aboard like iraq and elsewhere? No thanks

Sikhs are not ment to be cannon fodder to be used in other peoples wars and conflicts for economic gains of rich white western oligarch elites.

Sikhs are ment to fight for their religion and their values/principles if they are in a army whose interests come in conflict with those Sikh values then how can you be proud to fight for such an army? Have you not seen what the british have done to the Sikhs in india since they dismantled the Sikh empire? Prevented a viable Khalistan, Helped in the Sikh genocide by aiding indian govt in 1984, And off course jalliwalah bag massacre.

The britiish army and the state who hasnt given any assurances or anything to British Sikhs yet want their military service and manpower. Its one sided bad deal and the issues I outlined have not been addressed by you and other cucked Sikhs who do not realise that as a Sikh you fight for Sikh interests first above any non-sikh national Geo-political interests.

The thing about serving in military in USA GB Aus CAN ECT is that there are international laws and the discretion of ranks and foot soldiers on how they will carry out missions. Look at Harjit Sajjan he's representative of how Canada, a country who helped USA in the wars, helped carry out certain operations while saving troop and civilian lives. You underestimate the power of an independent thinking sovereign individual. No banner can change that.

I dislike this deal making culture. A while back I tried to have a rational discussion about Gurdas Man's new song. The individual I disagreed with trying to rile up feminazis in hopes they would spearhead the crusade against Mann. The writer wrote that Mann's song was somehow sexist because it portrayed the mom neglecting her kids and having substance abuse problem. Point is his plan to make a silent deal of give and take in hopes that his begging to feminazis would help him crusade against Mann failed horribly. 

This is the same mentality Sikh coalition type of orgs have they think bending over to Islamophobia brigade will end up helping somehow. Similar to how Muslims are using Sikhs and BLM to white wash their own image it's at the expense of us and I would argue other people allied in the silent deal of supporting each other. 

I may be wrong but I think we should be above this for the issues that are most important for us. Instead of using service as a bargaining chip military service should be independent as a means of protecting your home and further becoming an asset to the Panth. In that process individuals automatically become powerhouse for pushing and acting on our narrative. 

This applies to any field really but since we are talking about military service only mentioned that. 

I don't disagree with much of what you say but I think there is a fundamental flaw in assuming that military service translates into what you're saying bro

No need for self induced polarization and being alarmists. Just quietly watch and see what motives are. Liberals and far right both play the game. Smarten up.

1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:

Sadly, it looks like the majority of apnay actually aspire to this hording themselves, rather than condemning it. 

It's more easy to get caught up in this than you think bro. People become addicted to becoming rich even from GurSikh families.

Cognitive dissonance is one hell of a drug. 

23 hours ago, HarkiranKaur said:

So tell me why does their gender matter? Does their caste matter? Should we only allow those from the castes who volunteered that day? How about skin colour? Should no white singhs be allowed since no white singh volunteered heir head that day? Why is it only gender matters???? And please use Gurbani to support your answer. 

If Guru Sahib made 5 caste name Singhs then yes but Guru Sahib did NOT. It was 5 Singhs thus it will remain 5 Singhs.

According to your logic you want the gays and the khusre to be allowed Amrit and Anand Karaj because the jot is same and aama is one with Akaal and genderless? Lol

And please use Gurbani to support your answer.

6 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Don't want to offend anyone, but women have no business in being in the Punj Pyare because the Punj Pyare represent Guru Sahib and the first 10 of the Gurus were male. (Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is the only one who is genderless), among that if we believe that Punj Pyare represent Guru Sahib you'd realize why they can't be Punj Pyare. Amrit is still important for both genders, and anyone who gives Kirpan-Di-Amrit to a woman is a Pakhandi. There is one Amrit: which came from Charan Pahul to Khandi-Di-Pahul which is required for both genders!

That reasoning is the worst possible reasoning lol

It's simple. Panj piyare who gave their head were male so to represent them you need 5 Singhs no if and or buts about it. If one or more were Bibi jis then appropriately they would be in Panj 

Agreed with OP. Also bibian should not have a role in preparing Amrit because it is against maryada of 5 Singhs. Has nothing to do with equality. 

I don't care which feminazi has how many followers and thirsty fobs agreeing with everything she says I would gladly explain the reasoning in person. We all should be confident enough to not give in to this feminazi culture that is attempting to hijack Sikh sidhaant.

Lol such drama-baz to have a dress code like matching tuxes and suits for a wedding. 

On 3/8/2017 at 2:50 PM, dallysingh101 said:

Bumping this up. Although we maybe shouldn't have favourites when it comes to bani, Akaal Ustat is definitely one of mine. 

Thanks for the bump bro

Committee members...Modern masands.

25 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Yes, things have gone a bit haywire, lol. 

Generally, I didn't appreciate the inflammatory imagery of the video thumbnail (the blood spattered background featuring the khanda). It's incitement and verging on propaganda. I don't deny the truths in the video, but it wreaks of manipulation, allies or not. Still, if the video manages to knock some sense into some of our own, who are in denial, that refuae to believe such issues are real, then fair play.

Agreed with this but like you said it should be a wake up call if we can't even control our own narratives. Only problem I see is community will become antagonist to what he says just because of the way he says it. 

I could care less about his agenda. It's good that he made this video because spineless Punjabis are too busy being used by democrats in race politics and the Islamophobia brigade to pave way for no criticism of Islam and bad ideologies. When liberals stop being liberals fascists and far right can take control of the narrative which is why there is a rising rift between the left and the right in EU and UK. I predicted this would happen here in USA and it's already happening. The fault lies with the liberals and any reasonable individual like Bill Mahar, Sam Harris, Majid Nawaz, Richard Dawkins all point this out, but instead they get labelled as being racist. It's weird that Atheists are the ones who initially led this liberal criticism of Islam and the need for reform to conform with modern values accepted by humanity but it was fake liberals that blasted them for somehow being racist.

We all know that SAS has exposed that this happens in the UK, but the difference in Canada is if Sulle want to do this there is much more political correctness - especially among Punjabis where they would be too scared to talk about it. 

If I search hard enough I can guarantee I will find a post that I made years ago on Sikh Sangat saying that that the Muslim grooming of Punjabi girls from Sikh families has already started in Canada and/or will start. 

2 hours ago, StarStriker said:

I wouldnt b suprised if the khanda is a cleverly crafted symbol by the goreh to resemble freemason/illuminati symbolism, which they have cleverly done everywhere in the world. Dally on another thread pointed out how there r freemason/illuminati symbols on the floor at harmandir sahib on the tiled parkarma, which was shown on a youtube video. But there is a flag which brits captured frm anglo sikh wars, which shows a resemblence to modern day khanda. But for all we know brits cudda edited it.

But as we all know, this 1 below is the original nishan sahib, which streches back to 6th gurus time.

But 1 thing i do know is, we have got to make some serious efforts to retun the sikh panth/way of life back to wat it was, prior to these dirty brits comin in and posioning our panth with their editing.

Unfortunatly, there r some idiotic sikhs (esp freshy sikhs, who still romanticise over gora rule), who have colonised brains. These latest pics r an effing disgrace! Im not sure if these r 3ho or colonised brainwashed panjabis, either way, assi bachke raina chaiyda!

Mata gujari as some sort of "virgin" mary, or guru ramdas ji lookin pagri walah joseph holdin guru arjan dev ji as some sort of wannabe lil jesus, shocking!

Lol you're that Sikh Talk took guy from Instagram?

2 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

Who does this this elevation? Only a simpleton <banned word filter activated> in my eyes. And if loads of our people are of this ilk, that's a failure of our society and it's education system. 

At the end of the day people have to realise the role of folk singers in pendistic societies like ours. They are artists (modern day mirasis) who need to eat too. And these days everyone (including Amritdharis) has a large appetite. So they reflect what they believe will get them patronage from the audience.

Artists just reflect what people want to hear. So I say this song is a sign of success,  the success of the more conscious amongst us being able to sway popular culture above banalities to reflect more pressing issues - it is a success because otherwise I can pretty much guarantee that he'd probably be singing dumb songs about drinking or how great being a farmer is, or other miscellaneous 'lover boy' and 'lover girl' antics i.e. generally stupid and pointless or outright destructive things.

It's like the late Kuldeep Manak who made some deep tunes but also came out with straight fuduness like Jut ho gaya sharaabi. It's us, as the public, that should be putting discreet pressure on our folk singers to magnify the right thing. We all know (or we should by now!) that if we don't, these people will only fall back on low level populism about caste and drinking, or prancing about like a kunar or kunjaree. 

I made these exact same points in something I wrote earlier about this topic. Completely agree. Should check out Kuldeep Manaks last interview he talks about this issue very well.