GoliMaro

Also people who daytimers both Panjabi's and the Muslim type are in it for the same thing. Dollars and hoes.

In clubs, the number of Muslim girls is negliable. However Girls from a Panjabi/Indian background are plentyful. Muslims boys also are plentyful just like Panjabi boys. Just forget for a second what a girl dresses up like. However most Panjabi boys get drunk, try to womanise and act like complete idiots when intoxicated. Sober muslim boys can then slap up these fools without even trying most of the time. So some Panjabi girls think yeah he tough, he half decent looking, he sober, he okay to talk too and he ain't a drunk fool.

Both young men and some old men are there to get what they can anyway they can in some way, happens in all communities. While most women are more concerned with finding the 'one' and being in love. Give a woman time and attention with a bit of sweet talk every now and then then watch what happens, it a simple as that. Obviously there are the loose women who don't care where they are are and whos around. There are also a few cases of strong coersive methods used.

The typical most common tactic used is piling girls with drink, beacuse most drink because it is accepted within our community. On one hand you have both Panjabi boys piling girls with alcohol in pubs and clubs to get their leg over. So what does it matter if it is a Muslim man does it? They can use the justification and mis/interpretation of their Dharam to engage in these thing depending on what their views are of Kuffars. Whats the excuse of Panjabis? What because they are simply Kanjars? The only real difference is that Panjabi lads don't go round ACTIVELY pursuing Muslim girls in all levels of society and then getting them high on liquor and drugs for them to only become pieces of meat for sexual gratification, to then in certain cases be pimped out etc or for them to embrace another faith after the girl has fallen in 'love' or been blackmailed.

Even more importantly is that Muslims have PRINCIPLES instilled in them (whether they may be tright or wrong to others is another matter) through going to the Mosque daily or Sunday school at the Mosque or are made to submit to the will of their elders on way or the other. This is why very little of them elope with other people from other communities. While Panjabi's, well what can be said, too much free will without a cultural education, understanding and solid PRINCIPLES (be it from religion or other) and without good role models doesn't make for clued up kids at all. Most Panjabi's have role models in their own families of people who drink smoke, have open double standards and emphasise just making money is the most important thing in life etc this leads to clueless Panjabi's BOYS and GIRLS. While in schools Muslim kids are clued up and Panjabi's don't know kak about their faith except to chat crap about what 'caste' they are from which is nothing to do with religion.

Girls from another community is easy 'work', while doing it within your own community for Muslims and getting caught may lead to becoming the next headlines. While in Panjabi communities its accepted because boys do it to other boys sisters, but then don't want that in their own household when it their sister. Ultimately does it make a difference if the girl is a SLAG or the BOY is and if he is a MUSLIM SLAG or PANJABI SLAG? Something to ask yourselves?

To JALANDHARSHERE..... A real soorma, burrrrhhhhh! Lol.

Who said it happens actually in Gurdwarae? In party halls and outside absolutely yes. Now this is an old video before you start throwing your toys out the pram, because boy you ain't throwing NO punches yet. It is not leeds either, but you will be able to figure that much out at least:

I hardly doubt it that the people who actually take an interest in their faith would come out with random accusations to make themselves look better and as saviours of the faith while knocking other denomination tribes/casts who may be a little lost from the rest of the Panth. But your as so adamant that you want evidence like you the top man to then and go do something for the Panth MR SHERE, lol.

Many Sikhs who visit this forum actually do go up and down the UK and have seen things with their own eyes. It's not always convenient to take a picture or film, imagine if you were getting beaten up on the road somewhere and people knew you were the one and only JALANDHAR SHERE, in their laughter they may actually forget to take some evidence of this really important happening that your actually a clown disguised as a Lion who doesn't know a jab from a hook and has a 'girly' roar. :smile2:

Rest assured there is a video that exists of both leeds Gurdwarae and the beadbi that took place (the chapletown issue has now been resolved) there is also one of the the leeds ramgarhia place because there was someone making a video when some Singhs (real lions) went down. You obvioulsy have something against Jatts, maybe in your next life you will become one, lol seeing that you love them so much. :rolleyes2:

So okay, how about in turn you evidence where Sant Ji is holding an AK47 you befkoof? There is no such picture, maybe you have the image of Bin Laden superimposed on your brain, because you think Sant Ji is a terrorist like him. You know nothing about the background to operation bluestar or things affecting Sikhs and the wider community except for the propaganda that you have readily lapped up without even considering to research both sides of the story. Otherwise you would of quickly come to the conclusion that Sant Ji did what he had to do for very valid reasons. Too long to explain to a 'imbecile' like yourself.

Also you should go back to school and do some Maths too. There are 11 Guru's by the way, the last one being Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, EDDDDDDDDDDDDDDIOOOOOOOOOOOOOT BOY! Just as you know alot about Sikhs and Sikhi, Muslims would definietly praise and revere their defenders of Faith if something happend in mecca, not like wet behind the ear 'Sikhs' like you.

Once again where is Sant Ji using an AK? Have any evidence? Is no the answer once again? Then get off your high horse and on your bike. Your just as much as a hypocrite as those people who jump on the beadbi bandwagaon and then don't do nothing in their local areas to help resolve issues or come to protests.

So in conclusion the only egomaniac here is.................................. you :tongue2: JALANDHARSHERE and the way you have come on this forum and painted everybody who has posted or supported this action in some way shape or form with the same brush. This is only one indication of the stupidity the beholds you. Funnily enough, remember this: "evidence every accusation... Or in absence of that, keep your uneducated mouths shut"

Will let the other brothers and sisters who know more about Sikhi to counter your other BS. And here's something to sulk over further, seeing that you can't live it up like these stupid JATT clowns, if you do a quick whip around ramgarhia websites you will come across things like this http://www.ramgarhiakom.com/index.html Read the sections about whoever the deity with the chisel, hammer and hardhat is. It is hardly unlikely that if he is given so much praise that he has his own Arti and Ardas that within ramgharia temples/hall there is no reference to this miracle lord who would propbably knock up a party halls for jatts, ramgharia and other like minded folk who let manmat preside over Gurmat in seconds with all his skills from creating the universe, lol.

well the video speaks a 1000 words, This is the UK after all, and UK law is important, just as you respect the rules of the road, theres certain times that you need to respect the law.

He is correct that they have to take account of the covernants on the land,

The Akal takht does not preside over te UK Law.

an you all know that , other wise the M25 would have 30 lanes, all going in different directions.

Agreed UK Law is important. But UK Law is not above God's law. Your thinking religious fanatic ain't ya, lol! Well mate you should really think about picking up a book and learning about Sikhi and Sikh history. Do something useful with your life kid.

Guru Ji (Guru Hargobind Sahib Ji) used to sit on the Akaal Takhat Throne and give Hukam defying the governmnets of that day and the law of the land in the interests of Sikhi and Sikhs, not frigging Manmat which some people here seem to keep justifying through ignorant views, comments and the baseless Gurdwara Constitution.

O but your thinking that Jathedar is just a man so who is he, he ain't the Guru! So you start to question the Sandesh, but put simply you can't question Gurbani! Maharaj states clearly in Bani about the use of intoxicants and to reffrain from this. The dudley kinfolk and their supporters may be able to convince the wider community through pathetic reasoning, backtracking and lies that the committee and the people were in the right to have the hall and a party sharty. But when these people die along with the many people who think like this, they won't be able to convince Guru Ji about misuing funds through the Golak or otherwise (the council's money or whoevers) just to have a 'good' time. :rolleyes2:

That rich isn't it.. the way this protest went about on saturday, it was certainly somthing form the dark ages.

criminal acts were commited, againt people and peoperty FACT

if there are issues with the committe , thats a different matter.

The actions of individuals dring the whole stakar campaign into question, its methods, its tactics, and its organisation or ability to control what it creates.

If there are issues with the ploice's action on saturday, then bring them to account.

Secondly don't be so naive to think that there are people in the community hell bent on simply causing trouble, but this is the image DUDLEY 'SANGAT' want to paint ain't it mate, just like that blonde Aunty in the video? If that was the case they would of done it without provication and at the start regardless of the damage to the movement and image of the satkaar campaign.

Satkaar Campaign have unequivocally said and stated that protests are arranged on the lines of peaceful means and have released statements to this effect plus a protocol for the protest. They are not an organistation or formal body, just read their blogspot instead of chatting BEKWAS. So just what Methods? What Tactics? What Organisation and Control are you reffering to?

They currently don't hold meetings before hand with the protestors to reiterate the peaceful nature where they can exercise another level of control. Thus in the meantime they are not responsible until they exercise all possible levels of control and become an organisation for the actions of a minority of people who may take things into 'their own hands' because they have lower levels of tolerance towards abusive ignorant people. :laugh2:

Goli Maro

These Pathetic Committees (even Gurdware where there is no cultural or party hall) do not see even Gurdwara as the Guru's property, let alone some cultural centre. They see it as a business and an extension of their egos.

When the R4G campaign was on and before that the Guru Granth Sahib Campaign plenty of Gurdwarae said just like these dudley people 'who are you to tell us what to do' 'we started this gurdwara' 'you don't live nearby' 'we payed for this with our own money' ultimately they see it as a business and something that is theirs, where they can poamp their own egos and think they have actually done something good for the community when in fact they have not. They have instilled a sense of manmat in our minds and not Gurmat

If the oldies back in the day sorted this mess out the youth today would never have to step up to the mark. People are saying its been going on for 20-30 years. Well you BEFKOOF LOK, when the youth want to do their very best to reform Sikhi for the benefit of the upcoming generations they are going to just that or try their damn hardest. Just because the oldies were silent, incumbent or actually part of this mess in the past does not mean the youth who have love for Sikhi will accept it anymore.

Now this committee along with its slimey supporters backtracked, walked out of talks, repeatedly swore and cursed at the Singhs while peaceful negotiations were going on since Jan. To take it one step further they further provoked the situation when that family who initally booked the party backed out and they arranged another party in their egotistical defiance. Ultimately if they did the respectful thing in the 11th hour and totally backed out and opened up negotiations none of this so called bad publicity in the western media would of probably been so widespread. Thank you you dudley for goading and challanging the protesters, your really a hard bunch aint ya, why didn't you hold a counter protest instead of a party with all your supporters there? Put yourself on the map with this one you have!

These people may backtrack and disregard the Sandesh just like that pathetic old man who called up in that show. But ask that joke of a man or any of his family can you Disregard Bani you DUMB FLOPPERS? What does Guru Ji say about intoxicants in Bani? Forget the meat thing for a sec. Forget whether its a building across the road or not. Simply what does it say about intoxicants EH in Bani, O sorry forgot that you don't know that but you know the Gurdwara constitution and clause where it says alcohol and meat are permitted in the centre. DUMB FLIP FLOPPERS!

Coming to the whole violence thing. The police have't mentioned that a woman recieved a broken arm in the police report so that pathetic family if your reading this, sorry you can't go to 'don't delay claim today either, lol! The youth or whoever weren't armed either! No mention of this in the police report. Not all the protesters were Amritdhari either, there were people who weren't baptised that eat meat and drink booze in their lives who were there supporting it also, because ultimately they know to do it on land obtained through Sangats donations via Golak or off Gurdwara stages is total Manmat! Some were simply Keshdhari as they say, so how are all the protestors militants? Some may say there is no report of provication form the dudley sharbi kebabi's either which is seen as being one of the main reasons for the whole kick off, but don't be so niaeve to think that there are people in the community hell bent on simply causing trouble. If that was the case they would of done it without provication and at the start regardless of the damage to the movement and image of the satkaar campaign.

Satkaar Campaign have unequivocally said and stated that protests are arranged on the lines of peaceful means and have released statements to this effect. They are not an organistation or formal body, just read their blogspot instead of chatting BEKWAS. People who agree with the issues they are representing and standing up for will naturally want to show their support. Thus they are not responsible ultimately for the actions of a minority of people who may take things into their own hands. These people should remember that anything that they will do will naturally tarnish the image of Satkaar no matter how much they distance themselves for it. So next time be clever about it and leave the poor building alone, lol!

At the end of the day if these dudley people didn't exercise their egos as they did in such a defiant way and then to put fuel on the fire by not being their themselves (committee) and letting the people in the hall take the fall for it then this whole thing would of remained an internal matter which would of not come up on the radar of western media and tarnished the image of the Sikh / Panjabi community. In respect to our own media well that damage was done by showing that video which people are using to form part of their arguments now.

"My mission is to ensure that everyone - Hindu, Sikh, Muslim remain true to one's religion, that there is unity among all people, that the modesty of women is not violated, that the people are weaned away from the use of narcotics, that all social evils are curbed and to see that the Sikhs mobilise themselves under one banner by strengthening their faith in Guru Granth Sahib. If all this, which is the mission of my life, is termed as extremism then I don't mind being known as an extremist" ~Sri Maan Sant Giani Jarnail Singh Ji Khalsa, Bhindranwale~

The tapes can always go missing by mistake or recoded over - we can put it down to a 'desi mistake' they can't prove nothing- even if they are reading this now - without proof nothing lol

:laugh2:

Very true.

There is still time for Sikh Channel to fix up and do some damage limitation in our own community regardless of whether they have given up the tapes or not. Maybe run a piece on the whole thing showing the other side of the protest also with people on the panel that can talk about the issues mentioned here also.

All you jokers who think that Sikh Channel gave footage to the Police need serious help - these rumours started yesterday before the youth show and are complete rubbish. Ask respectable people like Mohan Singh, Randhir Singh, etc if these bs rumours are true.

Please stop wasting energy on fighting between each other when you have zero evidence. Panthic have also lost the plot - they hate every single top parcharak like Gyani Takhur Singh, Baba Hari Singh Randavavale, etc

Take a step out the bubble and think what's actually happening; we're all starting to point the finger at each other before the biggest remembrance demonstration by diverting ourselves from the real issues (playing into the real enemies hands).

WJKK, WJKF.

Just for everyones info the little birdy mentioned previously has gone back to the source who has said that a sikh channel staff member told them but will not mention any names. Suppose it is utter BULL TATTI and Sikh Channel haven't given up the tapes to the PO PO. Just think about this then and who the real jokers are,

If you broadcast something on tv you need to retain a copy of it just in case any formal public complaint to OFCOM is made, ask the weird and wonderful staff at Sikh channel this. Now they put that video up, so now the bacon rashers are probably aware of that recording also due to snitches like some of the people on this forum who don't like what happened, if not Avtar Seon himself. Plus they monitor these kind of forums too.

So if they approach the channel with a court order for the tape the SC muppets have to hand it over as someone already mentioned, hardly think Avtar or Bal would decline especially after the comment and thoughts that Sikh Channel representatives have expressed in word and over the net (see the panthic article and the comment posted up on their facebook thingy)

At the end of the day doesn't matter if they have given it before or will do in the future, the damage has already been done in the eyes of the wider community by them showing that tape completely out of context.

Plus nobody is fighting here, fight night was already aired on saturday on the Peoples Channel sky 840, did you miss it, :tongue2:? This is just verbal jostling!

The march will not stop either because of this whole mess of Sikh channel airing a segment of the video. It will still happen, people will just walk away from their cameras knowing that if something happens later on in the day for a small proportion of the actual day and Sikh Channel air the video trying to do the whole 'worlds first exclusive' thing again, they may become famous through police charges and a mugshot in the local papers, :biggrin2:

Whatever.

Time to watch some sangat tv.

Agreed :biggrin2:

Im not a fan of sikh channel but may I remind these silly internet rumours, that not even sangat tv or sikh tv can withhold evidence from the police (obstructing the cause of justice). Further, this is a public order offence, doesnt matter if the gurdwara committewalia want to press charges or not. The police would want all video evidence for their own intelligence.

Grow up.

No internet rumour mate, because it started through a phone call, lol!

Some people out there may keep their head in the sand! But let me reassure you the person who gave the intel doesn't, but don't take my word for it. Just wait till someone with a better reputation on this forum does with some concrete evidence.

Yes they can when they say they haven't got any evidence left because they got rid of the recordings! Ha, never heard of the situation where there been a robbery at the local store and the shopkeeper has beaten the robber senseless only to say he hasn't turned the CCTV recorder on when actually he did but got rid of it. Some people just live their lives wrapped in cotton wool.

If they wanted that for their own intelligence instead of wasting tax payers money on helicopters recording from the sky, maybe the incumbent police should of got a bobby with a camera running around the place, o wait they have Sikh Channel for that, lol!

Avtaar is a joke, seen him yesterday all he has to say for is himself is those people who went to protest are not sikhs...HMMM ok then?....he also posted on his facebook yes he runs it that it was shameful the acts conducted by the sikhs at the protest. Its a shame all the lies that come out of thier mouths and they try to run our channels. thats why sikh channel will never succeed!....shame on them

If that is him on facebook, he deleted that post and many of the others posted in response to it.

Plus a little birdie just told me that the Sikh Channel have given the video footage over to the POLICE. Always remember Sikh Channel, Pride of the Panth! Yeh EFFing right!

Sangat TV and Sikh TV both declined the police's request as all parties agreed that no charges will be made or upheld on either party as per signed statement, rightly so!

Thats probably why he has no problem with the Police pulling Singh's beards and knocking their turbans off either.

Dont worry , visit your pind every week , west london. , i'll be there again this week... there the same down there...inbreeding etc....

so were are you lot when it come to standing up and supporting the comunity, like when the EDL visited twice last year, causing damage to gurdwar ' s and mandirs....

bet your all at Glassy junction....

and you may want to leave your village and see the city lights once in a while

Dudley flop squad, actually a handful of the Singhs that went to the protest were the very same Singhs that went down to ensure that there was no case of mistaken identity when the E, E, EEEEEEDL were marching through.

If you were there yourself instead of being an internet warrior you would know that there was also one of the main members of the EDL close on call to speak to any of the other EDL members if they still came round.

Ask your local committee about it, they might actually speak the truth for once.

Even when the bins were placed outside the other Gurdwara in Dudley and set alight, it was these Singhs that went down, so don't be giving it ten man large Dudley Flop Squad! Get out more an get clued up about whats happening in your own backyard! :smile2:

I watched the Dudley Protest show on Sikh Channel last night at 9.30pm...now while the Gursikhs in the Studio correctly stated what occurred on the day and they did so very well but the only video's shown by Sikh Channel showed a very one sided account of the day...the videso were very aggressive and confrontational...why was the other side not shown (Simran/Jaap)? Yes a few moments were shown where simran was done but the complete focus of the videos was on the few outburst alone!

I've received numerous calls from mone friends/family saying that the protest was wrong as all the youth were acting like thugs and rampaging - this was all based on what was shown on Sikh Channel - had Sikh Channel remained unbiased in the videos they showed then i'm certain that the calls i received would have been different. Only after i told my friends/family about what truly happend...only then they understood!

Now i was there all day and can categorically say that there were just a few outburst but overall it remained a very peaceful protest! This was not shown at all by the Sikh Channel.

This video below on facebook shows how the sangat peacefully did simran for hours upone hours...but did the Sikh Channel show this? NO...why NOT?

http://www.facebook....v=2062710208631

Sikh Channel have a duty to also show the Naam Simran and Gurbani jaap that took place for hours upon hours...and not just focus on the few moments of outburst.

I personally was very dishearted having watched the show as it portrayed us all as thugs...well done Sikh Channel!

What can we expect from western media, when our own media did not portray the day accurately?

Read their facebook status update here jee:

http://www.facebook....149575988442445 - "Very shameful scenes today at the Dudley protest. Those cowards who attack old men and police officers will get what they deserve. Everything was filmed but very sad and to embarrassing to air!!"

The peaceful protest part consisted the majority of the protest, however as you have correctly said this is something which has not been highlighted correctly.

I'm try to put this in a perspective that sums up what happened. First the Gurdwara committee lied that they would stop the parties in the hall. However some Singhs did not trust their word and still went to protest and when they showed up to the hall, they did a peaceful protest. No Singh caused any violence or provoked anyone into a fight. But then you have some party goers come out of the party where they must have been drinking alcohol, eating their meat, and dancing. These party goers provoked the Singhs by challenging them to stop the beadbi. These Singhs took up the challenge because Maharaj is at first being slandered and then Maharaj fauj is being mocked to stop the insults toward Maharaj. If any Singh can stand there and do nothing after that takes place, then they don't know what the true meaning of being a Singh is. This challenge was directed at Maharaj to get up and do something if this beadbi is so bad. It is the Singhs duty to serve Maharaj when this takes place. Maharaj blessed the Khalsa Panth with the Saroop of Guru. If this Saroop can't stand up for Maharaj then who would? The Singhs did everything right by taking the challenge and I wish those that challenged the Singhs got a good bashing. Next time they won't mock Maharaj. There is no mercy for those that go to these lenghts to drag Maharaj's name in the dirt.

Think Satkaar need to up the ante (have said this to them before anyone turns around and says 'say it to them first')

If there is to be a protest and then supposedly a resolution is achieved then as an extra deterrent just like in this case where the same slimey 'Sikh's' go and arrange another party in its place when the family respectfully bowed out of the situation; Satkaar should contact accomadating Gurdwarae in that area who would be able to cater for the diversion of protesters from the planned protest into the Gurdwarae in an actual 100% agreement has been made.

Thus it won't be seen as a mixed message and everyone can do Sangat and enjoy a program where Satkaar can reiterate the main principles on which they run. They should also do tours of Gurdwarae stages on the 'Sikh religious day' 'a Sunday', lol and create further awareness where it counts, to the masses of people in divans across the UK no matter what affiliation to caste a Gurdwara may have.

Also they should be prepared for violence from both Police and the opposing people and have a PR team and even people who record the protest and gather intelligence on the opposing people too comes in handy after :biggrin2:

Ultimately things like these will always lead to a confrontation and they will be people on all sides thats are up for provoking the other. Police did it at Bekwas Centre with the dogs towards the Singhs, then the Baba's chelae started throwing stones etc. If everyone (for those who know that it may get nasty) has the same dress code :ph34r: it would be harder for cctv to be effective and police to clock on who is doing what, unless you get clocked red handed. Just a thought in future for those that know that high handedness is required once in a while when other means have failed. The police won't be able to charge everyone for the one 'incident', if it turns out to be a serious one, then everyone should admit it then they won't be able to do anything either.

Finally Satkaar should call the shots on when there is to be a charge to 'rush the doors' as they say if there is to be one at a protest. They need to plan and have contingency plans for every possible situation. Otherwise when people get garam they will let off their own steam when they want and it may get messy and prematurely lead to a possible no win situation due to these happenings. But if you let the people get garam then control it then release it in a controlled manner in unison when finally needed not even the police will be able to do jack.

Goli Maro

singhfauja you have mentioned relating side issues, im just stating the obvious.

Where did the 'nang' fauj come into it? FYI I do not know where the woman goes and who she visits either. :rolleyes2:

lol, what a way to sideline the issue. I couldn't give a flying EFF about them two things either jee. Try mentioning a few more conspiracies maybe, lol?

Do you blindly follow panthic.org, work for them or a part of the 'JATHA' or something that you don't allow yourself to see the point that was made? :nono:

Goli Maro, think what you want jee but there is more to that video then is being shown. Not even the woman and the Swami are seen together in it. Before you say they are seen together in other videos I'm on about the house video thats shows supposedly the

'Sikh Parchariks At Hate Monger Sadhvi'S Uk Divan'

, lol.

"GoliMaro" jee,

There is more than what meets the eye in both of those videos. I would not be too hasty and blame things on video manipulation.

I assume more videos will be coming out from both sides of this controversy and so will the skeletons in their closets.

This was not a 10 minute event, as Panthic.org states, the videos clips were recorded during different times at the nimala home and everyone was present there.

I see the guru of the sadhvi you called a 'nutcase woman' clearly sitting next to the Sikh babas.

This swami guru guy seems to be with her everywhere, he is in many of those RSS rallies where she is threatening and spewing hate against minorities who mess with India.

If he is a man of god he would not allow her to spew all that poison against others. It is clear all these holy people are used by government agencies.

They criticize things only upon government agencies request, the rest of the time they stay silent - whether it be mass rapes of women, children, or burning of innocent babies.

These Sikh babas have no reason to be in the company of these dangerous elements.

If they did then like Baba Nanak they should have called a spade a spade and told the Sawami and the sadhvi to stop spewing hate against minorities.

If they are not willing to stand up for humanity and "sabat da bhalla" everyone keeps parroting the they have no business being Sikh parcharics.

You can keep defending them all you want, but the truth will come out.

Some RSS/VHP information on the Swami, clearly indicating that he is intimately involved with right-wing Hindu miltants and they consider him their guru:

http://vhp.org/vhp-a...arma-sansad-10/

The Session was inaugurated by lighting a lamp at the benign hands of Yug-Purush Swami Paramanand Maharaj.

Speaking on the occasion, Vishwa Hindu Parishad General Secretary Parveen Togadia rejected the idea of a mosque at the site and said a temple will be built there with the blessings of saints.

http://www.indiandef...299/index5.html

"With the blessings of saints, Ram Temple will be constructed in Ayodhya and mosque is not acceptable," he said.

He also demanded a total ban on cow slaughter. VHP International President Ashok Singhal, Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi [ Images ], MP Navjot Singh Sidhu, were among others who complimented Swami Paramanand on the occasion.

Modi said, "Guru-shishya parampara established by Swami Ram Krishna Paramhans and Swami Vivekananda is being kept up by Yug Purus Swami Paramananad Maharaj and Sadhwi Ritambhara."

Swami Paramanand is playing a vital role in inspiring the youth towards spirituality, he said.

"The land of Ram Janam Bhumi cannot be divided and the Mandir movement will reach its conclusion only with the construction of a Ram temple in Ayodhya," the RSS chief said at a function in Vrindavan to mark the 75th birth anniversary of Yug Purush Swami Paramanand Maharaj.

Panthic.org state this on their site

1) "London, UK - In a newly released video, the notorious Hindu Sadhvi Rithambhrai, who leads VHP's Army of Durga, and vows that those minorities that challenge the unity of Hindustan will be crushed and killed like dogs is seen in sangat of several Sikh parchariks before a Havan is performed at that residence."

This as already mentioned cannot be the case as their is no concrete footage showing this.

2) "It is assumed that this video was recorded on the same day when the Havan and Aartee occurred - although it is not known whether Baba Randhavewala or Giani Avtar Singh were present when those rituals took place." in reference to the last video segment where Nirmala got clocked with his wet hair down trying to dry it by a fire, lol!

I find it hard to believe that Nirmala has got two homes where he resides unless one is for when he lets his hair down and the other for when he ties a turban. Moreso the two houses in the video both have patio doors, unless it is one house with a patio door at the front with a tent and a shed in the drive, lol.

The way they present the article and using the captions and title is misleading, biased, and unfactual. Instead of being senationalists like Panjabi/India media they should be more rational.

Finally I couldn't give a monkey's about who this and that person is and whether they are a man of God, Baba or whatever and if they have the minerals to stand up for the truth when it counts such as at a hate speech which the nutcase woman gives frequently. What have stated is a blatant misrepresentation of events as per imho, any rational thinking person would be able to also deduce that there is no truth behind the following title statement. "SIKH PARCHARIKS AT HATE MONGER SADHVI'S UK DIVAN" They have implied the plural and not the singular. The only Parcharik there clocked on the video in the presence of the woman is Nirmala

The rest is up to them what they do with their lives, but it ain't no business of mine. :biggrin2:

The people behind the 'thing' should also learn their mother tongue.

Correct this if wrong, but don't it say khalistan zidabad, there is a tippee missing from the original panjabi writing which would make it khalistan zindabad :wacko2:

lol. Great manipulation skills used in this video. If you look at the video properly and notice the key things in the background you will be able to ascertain that this recording was done at different times when none of the same people mentioned above were in the same room.

Firstly the clip starts with the nutcase woman, then cleverly cuts to Balbir 'RSS' and some other 'Singh's'. Then it cuts back to the woman and Dajit doing sangat of her sitting on the floor. In this room you can see all the people sitting on the right of the room on the floor. In this clip you will also notice that the sofa is moved up to the patio door and there is something hanging from the wall in the back right and may be able to glimpse the bottom of the photos hung up on the wall on the right during the various video panning in and out of the room.

When it shows all the so called 'Sikh Parchariks At Hate Monger Sadhvi'S Uk Divan' in the room with the Swami, the furniture has been rearranged and that same thing is hanging above that Swami's head. And his couch being pushed up into the far right corner by the patio. There is now a sofa under the paintings on the wall where everyone is sitting on the sofa having a good chin wig. This is probably the part where the Balbir 'RSS' video is from, but had been editied to show it as before.

Plus the clip then goes on to show all of them 'Sikh Parchariks At Hate Monger Sadhvi'S Uk Divan' and the Swami together eating and having a great photo opportunity and no sight of Nirmal and that woman or the other people who were doing sangat of the woman from before.

Most likely that its on two different days unless they have people handy to move furniture around everythime new guest come around :biggrin2:

Did try to post this up on Panthic.org who thought did good work, but clearly they too have a part to play in misrepresenting certain issues in the benefit of their greater aim if they were not the ones to actually edit the video further. :rolleyes2:

http://www.tribunein...10413/main4.htm

According to witnesses, the bullets were pumped straight into his chest, head, stomach and thighs and he died on the spot.

Only if our own Panth was still into doing this to all the pankhandi so called leaders and those fake people, maybe Panjab would be a better place today. :rolleyes2:

Goli Maro

Whats the latest with this story?

Anybody know whats going on?

For all the doubters out there who think it's not easy to remove a Pagh - Nok style, just watch the start of this.

Being Tyar bar Tyar means in every sense! Starting with a good solid Jeevan and a secure dastaar such as a Dumalla, one with a Boonga, keski underneath would help or learning how Sikh's in the world wars used to tie them. Paitiala/Nok style paghs weren't made for battle, but having it remain on your head depends on your Jeevan and Kirpa as some of the top Kharkoo's used to adorn these style turbans when on the hunt for Paapi's.

Goli Maro

This is blasphemy, he says "better to be a good person than a bad sikh"

What a true clutch if your ever saw one :lol:

Maybe this is how he thinks 'good people and bad Sikhs' should act by taking part in things like these.

The man in that suit that you can't see totally is none other than Hardeep Kholi in a stripper dancer competition most likely in a nightclub with his usual bright Pagh on.

If you are a concerned soul worried about the influences of Kaam, do not watch it!!!

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Thanks for posting.