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Anyway MansWisdom Paji ........ WHAT DID YOU SAY TO HER!?....... Penji called das's mobile number (did you give it to her?) She phoned at 2am (was in the process in replying to mani's comment) in the morining and started to cry and started telling das that if das didn't marry her or left her she will commit suicide....... She was crying so loudly.... She also said your friend was telling lies and is jealous etc. This was not meant to happen........ Das is very worried, what shall das do? Anyone PLEASE PLEASE HELP? Is she just going through a phase? Is maya testing das to stop das from leaving and progressing towards vaheguru. Das, REALLY REALLY DOESN'T WANT TO GET MARRIED. BUT DAS DOESN'T WANT HER TO DIE EITHER. What shall das do? what is happening Das doesn't understand...

Mani singh das doesn't agree with you and let das explain. The reason for an avasta is to get closer to vaheguru as in a way it is a stepping stone to judge your spirtual progress towards vaheguru or sachkand or pooran pramanand. Essentially in japji sahib paart it talks about the 5 kands. The kands are the best way to see how far you are from vaheguru and each kand can be subdivided even further to form a group of avasta.Your talking about love and love is the only way towards vaheguru but you have to go through all the kands (only through love and discipline) to meet vaheguru, just like how a baby must first learn to crawl, walk and then run. Meeting guru is one of the first main avasta where you get partak darshan. First is dreams of guru and mahapuraks, religion, mental changes (All dharam kand) etc..... Why do you recite vaheguru? why recite mool mantar? For e.g. say you call out your friends name and they don't respond to you and you keep on doing this for years and years without them responding, how would you feel? Das feels the same when calling out vaheguru's name. But das doesn't blame vaheguru as the weakness is in das...... Vaheguru please take pity on das!!!

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Das personally sees marriage as a waste and won't be marrying... All das sees from marriage is dukh lol Why get married when it will only be you present in dharamraj's court and not your wife with you? (das isn't saying marriage is wrong just not suitable for das but das has respect for those who can cope in a married life and bring up their children well into sikhi)

vaheguru! sat bachan ji

Das has noticed the more simran, bani, seva das does the more maya tests das. Das has been less tested to never have faced problems like this. But das thinks maya is trying to hold das back to stop das from progressing in life and meeting god.

Firstly classic avatar and anyway paji why do you call yourself MansWisdom? Das with guru's kirpa will get better. Paji do me a favour don't write stuff like das's "nitnem is huge" please, this just inflates das's ego. Das is also extremely sorry to make you sad today. Also das didn't get you into sikhi at all, it was all vaheguru saying that das helped me is wrong, das is no one special, only guru ji is.Hmm the next part surprised das a lot. Das was wondering why das's family kept on forcing das to marry in the past couple of days. Das now knows why and was very confused in the last couple of hours. So das has consulted with das's friend who has been helping das out and the same friend who told das about going to the derea and serving saints. Das met up with him and talked for an good hour. With his help he told das that you must break the relationship at all costs. He told das that you MansWisdom paji must do it. All das wants from you MansWisdom is to call the penji and tell her that das is a very bad person. Das's friend told das to say stuff such as das is into drugs, drinking, has had relationships in the past etc. Das knows lying is wrong but das's friend said it is for the greater good..... MansWisdom paji you must defame das at all costs please. Also das looks forward in seeing you at graduation. Das would like to thank a couple of penjia and pajia that have been helping das by sending das pms in regarding das to think about what das is doing and taking longer before making his decision in leaving. Das has taken all this on board. Thankyou, also das is sorry that das can't reply to everyone as das isn't feeling to well but will once das gets better.

Gurdsingh the person who gave das this suggestion is solid in his sikhi and has a lot of abhiaas. He told das that vaheguru will take full care of of his family. Das thinks he said some tuk in gurbani and the meaning is -ooddae oodd aavai sai kosaa this paashai buchurae shariaa The flamnigos leave their young one and fly hundreds of miles away thin kuvun khulaavai kuvun chugaavai mun mehi simran kariaa who feeds them and who teaches them to feed themselves? have you ever thought of this in your mind? So basically he told das that he has left everything to vaheguru as vaheguru is the anwser to providing for them. Das is worried for his family as well because noone is their it's hard to believe his reasoning as he was the only breadwinner.But he also made das believe that sadhu and sants have an advantage over grist jeevan because they don't get attached to maya or it is way easier to get detached etc. He also challenged das telling das to name 1 sadhu and saint that hasn't got any avasta and das couldn't. So he made his pointand das agrees with him.Gurdsingh he told das about a dera in shaawad in india to go to but he also told das to look for other dera as it is up to you to go where ever you want. das just wants advice and help as its wise to ask many people to get their views on this.

<br /><br /><br />Bhenji thing is that its kind of embarassing for the das to say but das doesn't think gristi jeevan is right for das. The reason is das finds it hard to see another in a lustful way, das has trained himself after he read sant harnam singh rampurkele wale long time ago to look down when speaking to women. Also das have see others as my sister and aunty etc. das just feels sick if das sees them any other way. In uni das's friends all ways tell das that other girls (even amritdari) are interested in you and want to go out with you but hearing this makes das want to cry and das just wants to make vaheguru his only. das has just lost the urge for everything in life in terms of maya das has everything that das wants but just wants to now merge with the creator. Sorry if das is sounding weird and stupid.

Also das doesn't mind answering questions and getting advice but it would be appreciated if das could get a list of possible dereh in line with gurmat.

Hkaur ji das disagrees with you on the basis of the sri guru granth sahib saying many time to serve saints, be the dust of saints feet etc. You can't compare serving a saint with your parents. Also in a way the sri granth sahib tells you to be in the company of saints so guru ji is for it. Also das is not going away from sri guru granth sahib but will hopefully learn the true meaning of gurbani from saints.Also das has read bhai rama singh ji's autobiography when he recalls how hell was like and he mentions in his vision that when he was in line to dharamraj there was a women in front of him and dharamraj read her accounts and he mentions that dharamraj said that she has served the saints in life but has never done simran. But since she has served the saints she will get another chance at human life!!! Also there was another person in line but didn't do anything but he had to be recarnated in the 8.4 million life cycle. Also das will tell you that there is a huge difference between serving saints 1 it says in gurbani to do so. Also it doesn't say serving your parents anywhere but don't get das wrong as das isn't saying not to serve your parents, you will get ful but it is futile to compare it to saints. Also another difference is that saints them selves are mukt and if they will they can get you mukht, think about it hpkaur in your avatar you have a pic of sant jarnail singh khalsa bhinderanwale serving him will be more rewarding compared to serving your mum. Also on sikh channel das listens to sant ranjit singh dandrianwale says many times that he only is successful because of his sant giving him bhakshas. Also giani thakur singh also says that what he is today is all due to sant jarnail singh khalsa bhindranwale. Giani ji goes that he did ardaas for hik and is ardaas is exactly what he is today.Also the 1 of the biggest seva is serving saints even bhagat kabeer ji used to give more food and majority of his food to sadhus and saints than his own family. Also saints can help you attain huge avasta that you can become jeevan mukt and then it says in gurbani that you can save your whole family. There is no bigger seva then saving your generations and ansestors.

Oh twadi regarding your reply das's family don't mind if das goes. They believe that vaheguru will help them fully and they want das to progress as they have not...

<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Yes ji das does. But simran shouldn't just be only 2.5 hr it should be all day but reducing sleep is hard. Anyway regarding seva das used to give speeches in uni and stuff and do guru seva as much as das can etc. Dasvand das can't give as das isn't working. Anyway das has tried so much as das has read sharda puran granth tried some stuff to get avasta etc. But its been years without any progress. Getting sikhi is 1 thing but you want to progress... das hears so many stories that people get partak darshan of the guru ji etc but das has got nothing. But das still has full faith in vaheguru. Das with kirpa got to speak with a gursikh and has discussed so many problems with him. He was in a similar situation to das and he is the one who convinced das. so far it seems that he is correct. This premi told das that he just recently got married and now he is leaving his wife and 1 year old child to go and be in the company of saints. He told das that the reason das isn't progressing is that das doesn't have the company of saints. He start telling das gurbani lines etc. Das is worried about his family but he told das that vaheguru will look after them! I thought he was mad because he was the only 1 earning for them but..... he is the only 1 to help das properly. So basically he is the one going around helping others like das who are stuck. Also he told das to tell others. Also if anybody feels the same way you can contact das here and das with his friends who are going with him are currently telling others if they want to come. So far we have 8 amritdari premis who don't mind leaving and spending their full lives in the service of vaheguru.

VJKK VJKF Sangat ji das wants to know if there are any dereh in India that are in line with gurmat. Das is currently in uni and wants to leave and and spend his life doing simran and reading bani and be in company of a saint/s to help him reach high avasta and meet god. Currently das is amritshak but wants to leave as das sees no point in living here. Also das can't see any spirtual progress but das has been praying hard for years now which das completely owes to guru but still no progress. Das has tried so hard but can't see a way forward in this way of living but das knows about many sadhus and saints that are of high avasta. So das wants to spend life with them to progress. Also das with the help of guru has persuaded das's other amritdhari friend who was going to marry, to break his marriage engagement and to join him as he feels the same way. Anyway sangat ji please can you provide a list of dereh that will help please. Vaheguru sareh di madat kareh.