GyanParbodh

How many of you have them? If you do how did you meet, come across them?

Is there a maryada or a way of getting a vidiya guru?

The thing is Neo that these type of people do a lot worse undercover, but try to portray themshelves as saviours of the panth. In my teen years a lot of my 'friends' were like this. Sikhi does not need a rehat police. It does not need Sikhs being exposed and vilified for personal indiscretions. People that indulge in such behaviour are devils.

This idea of manmat seems a problem. Isn't the majority of things we do man mat? A Sikh in no way be dealing in such name and same tactics and trying to push their opinions on others. The original post is not referring to stuff like clubbing drinking etc amongst Sikhs but about bibiya, singhniya that may do eyebrows or remove facial hair etc.. Like Neo said this katar-vaad needs to be dealt with or you are basically going to find people moving away from Sikhi completely. Sunday Sikhs are better than No Sikhs.

I received a message from a sister who had read my previous post on trimming my beard and revealed that she had many times been the victim of similar marginalization. But let’s not call it marginalization; let’s call it for what it is: <banned word filter activated> shaming. That’s right; <banned word filter activated> Shaming. It’s where our Sikh men, mostly youth, with their omniscient knowledge of all things Sikhi, have engaged in a crusade against their own sisters. A crusade where these men dictate what is socially acceptable and what is not for women. A crusade where women are made to feel inferior for acts of their own free will. How dare a Sikh women think, speak and act for herself.

This is a crusade of unprecedented proportions, and a crusade so utterly violent in nature that it serves to further ostracize untold numbers of Sikh women into isolation: a dark, empty vacuum of existence where they are constantly trying to appease their male counter-parts and live up the ideals that these men have created.

This crusade, this inquisition of Sikh women, needs to stop. This is not how Sikhs are supposed to behave. To publicly display pictures of our own Sikh sisters who may happen to trim their eyebrows, shave their legs, show some bare skin, wear shorts, or engage in any form of public intimacy with their significant others, is unethical, un-Sikh and disturbing.

This isn’t insensitivity; this is an outright display of male patriarchy, of re-enforcing hierarchical system that places males on top and dominate. This is so much more: an extremism that is taking hold of our entitled youth, and yes, entitled they are. Now that they’ve taken Amrit, and look the part, they feel as if they can go around enforcing this physical identity on others.

I’m trying very hard to be placid here with my disgust. A group from the UK recently uploaded a picture of a young women on their facebook page and <banned word filter activated>-shamed her. I thought to myself: is this how our Guru’s engaged our community? By denouncing them with such violent acts of shaming, and especially their own daughters.

What happened to love and understanding? What happened to identifying with those at the margins, and in this male dominated, sexist, misogynistic life: our sisters. Instead of understanding and loving our sisters, we lash at them with whips and chains, until they are subjugated, reduced to nothing, and then we enforce our narrow minded realities on them.

Ask yourselves this question: Would Guru Gobind Singh march his own daughters around a village and denounce them as sluts and whores? The answer is that he would not. So why do these men feel as if they are locating their actions in Sikhism?

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Now here is a big problem among youth.

We all know that a lot of Sikh youth (Amritdharis included) are having physical relationships right? even if it is 'undercover'

This idea that it is 'bad' it is a 'sin' obviously isn't a deterrent. It may make you feel guilty at first but that's about it. That feeling fades away to eventually.

Sex and relationships really need to be discussed. What is wrong with having a relationship? finding your own partner? Having sex? What makes sex wrong outside marriage but ok inside? Why is it worse for a girl to be involved in such stuff but not as bad for a guy?

Hit the gym.

This topic the panth should discuss as homosexuals are starting to come out (Sikhs included) about their sexuality. Akal Takht i know said no its not acceptable but it seems that was just a kneejerk response rather than learning what homosexuality is.

Gur murat gur shabad hai sadh sangat vich pargat aeiaa... - Bhai Gurdas Ji

There is nothing wrong with amritdhari love marriages, majority of them get love marriages in the west, but pretend to play the "it was arranged card"

As for you, you're in quite the predicament, use your own budhi. Weigh in the pros and cons then make a decision.

I'm pretty sure the Gurus would have wanted his Sikhs to use the same critical thinking faculty that they had used.

Thanks for the post Gurbar Akaal any chance of maybe showing some of your work ?

Sure

Well one he is widely considered the mastermind behind air India attack. so it isn't smart to be supporting him as such.

Secondly he very well could have been a "agent of india" if i remember correctly he was given a special visa by india to return to the country and then was apparently "killed"

There are also question marks over his character he was accused of murder in India of police officials in i believe early 80s? but he was found not guilty as he was not in the country at the time of the murders, but when he came to Canada he would talk freely about how he had "killed" police officials. Maybe these were used as a tool of self promotion.

He would charge for baptism as well as a monthly fee for joining his "Babbar Khalsa" Shaheed Bhai Fauja Singhs wife i read even accused him of hijacking her husbands movement.

2years since moving to Canada from India he was living a wealthy life in an 9 Bedroom house, where did this wealth come from?

Also his millionaire "friends" who openly supported him and the Khalistan Movement had huge credit lines in Banks in India which begs the question why would India give money to people who it considers terrorists.

I wouldn't be surprised if Talwinder Parmar is still alive somewhere. Maybe having tea parties with Indian officials.

Could some of the sangat advise me on writing bani please, what type of paper, ink type of book or how to make one.

Dal Singh Sehaj Paath is reading of Guru Granth Sahib from beginning to end just like an akhand paath but without any time restrictions and doesnt have to be a continuous reading.

P.S Love your avatar

Lots of question marks over this guy

What you need to do is let go, when your mind comes up with thoughts of the past don't try and fight them or go deeper into them, let them float and disappear without judgement. Bringing thoughts about the past into the present moment fortifies the pain of an event and makes it more likely that that memory will come up more regularly. It causes us to re-experience the pain, and it reinforces the tendency to dwell on such thoughts and keep the pain going. The mind will chew on such things like a dog on a bone, refusing to let go. But unlike a bone, these memories can never be fully chewed and digested by thinking about them, this merely ensures the perpetuation of pain.

The only way the pain from the past can be stopped is through a conscious act of will to not dwell on painful memories when they arise. Dwelling on them only creates a painful present. We are free to choose this, of course, and many do for a very long time. But this is exhausting, and it destroys relationships. Do you want love more than revenge or self-righteousness or drama or pain? The ego actually doesn't, but Essence does. When we are able to find that place within us that is willing to forgive and forget, then love is possible, no matter what has happened.