SRIWAHEGURU

Shaastar paji, no exactly where your coming from.

Hes from the same Uni as Dhunda & co. They very cleverly whilst doing some mainstream parchar, always seem to slip in a few crazy statements which tear at the very fabric of Sikhi - Sharda. They dont believe in 5 Nitnem Banis - Jaap Sahib and Chaupia Sahib really kills them.. They dont believe in Bhagat Bani from Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee Maharaj. They dont see Maharaj as Jaagdee Jot (Eternally Alive)they see Maharaj as a book! Thats just a few things they mislead the Guru Roop Sangat with. Their only aim and mission in life is too cause doubt in the Pavitar Gurbani, Ithias (Jeevans) and Maryada (Principles) of Akal Purkh Vaheguru, as blessed to the world by the Gurus themselves. They blindly spew out rubbish where ever they go, striving to follow in the footsteps of their daddy - Darsan Lall!!!!!

saadsangat Jee, I got to know Ropinder singh around 2 -3yrs ago, I started going to the Academy firstly for myself then very quickly for all the kids that came to get closer to Maharaj. It was an amazing concept, Ropinder Singh alongside many many other Sevadaar (both male and female) were doing a fantastic job by bringing closer to Guru Jee against all the odds - Financially they were loaded with Interest only payments of over £6,000 just for the loan installments. The story is very long as I wrote earlier anyone out there with any question whatsoever give the man a call, go and see him most people in east ldn know where he lives. I posted many times on behalf of the Academy over the last 2yrs (pls read) on topics solely related to the Academy. Speaking to singhs across the country I have got to know one thing about Ropinder Singh, hes not a Leader hes a Follower, and above all hes a Doer. Over a period of at least 9yrs he has always been at the forefront (alongside countless other singhs) of any situation regarding the Respect of Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee Maharaj in the UK. Credit to him he has never put his name up in lights as it were as the so called saviour, hence why most people might never have heard of him. The Sevadaar of the Academy have told me many times that they just thank Guru Jee for their Seva, there not here to make friends. All of the Gurdwara locally obviously hated the idea of the Academy and more importantly the sevadaar as they were teaching kids and their families to question any beadbhi of Maharaj (irrespective of who was doing it) as the priority of their lives. Many local people associated to these Gurdwara unfortunately dont like the idea of younger people telling them how to do satkar and stop doing Beadbhi - as always it was easy to give the blame for this to Singhs like Ropinder Singh. Getting back to the point though, we have a Singh who has run around the country making a stand against beadbhi, eventhough hes "old and skinny", you got to ask yourselves wheres all the Big, Strong Younger Singhs ! Surely they cant all be jus chillin on the Net, or perphas Mr Mahakaal96 has got em round for Sunday roast - the real thing..... Hey Where Does it Say in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee Maharaj that we cant partake in a certain type of dish! We can quote as many historical txts as you like but try been blessed to listen to Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee Maharaj - God themselves.. They will show us very clearly whats gonna happen to those that clearly try to twist the Morals and Gurbani of God to suit there own little agendas. Kudus to you Mr Mahakaal96 for once again not having the mental capacity to listen to the sangats voices on this thread ---- STICK TO THE TOPIC-----

saadsangat Jee, I got to know Ropinder singh around 2 -3yrs ago, I started going to the Academy firstly for myself then very quickly for all the kids that came to get closer to Maharaj. It was an amazing concept, Ropinder Singh alongside many many other Sevadaar (both male and female) were doing a fantastic job by bringing closer to Guru Jee against all the odds - Financially they were loaded with Interest only payments of over £6,000 just for the loan installments. The story is very long as I wrote earlier anyone out there with any question whatsoever give the man a call, go and see him most people in east ldn know where he lives. I posted many times on behalf of the Academy over the last 2yrs (pls read) on topics solely related to the Academy. Speaking to singhs across the country I have got to know one thing about Ropinder Singh, hes not a Leader hes a Follower, and above all hes a Doer. Over a period of at least 9yrs he has always been at the forefront (alongside countless other singhs) of any situation regarding the Respect of Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee Maharaj in the UK. Credit to him he has never put his name up in lights as it were as the so called saviour, hence why most people might never have heard of him. The Sevadaar of the Academy have told me many times that they just thank Guru Jee for their Seva, there not here to make friends. All of the Gurdwara locally obviously hated the idea of the Academy and more importantly the sevadaar as they were teaching kids and their families to question any beadbhi of Maharaj (irrespective of who was doing it) as the priority of their lives. Many local people associated to these Gurdwara unfortunately dont like the idea of younger people telling them how to do satkar and stop doing Beadbhi - as always it was easy to give the blame for this to Singhs like Ropinder Singh. Getting back to the point though, we have a Singh who has run around the country making a stand against beadbhi, eventhough hes "old and skinny", you got to ask yourselves wheres all the Big, Strong Younger Singhs ! Surely they cant all be jus chillin on the Net, or perphas Mr Mahakaal96 has got em round for Sunday roast - the real thing..... Hey Where Does it Say in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee Maharaj that we cant partake in a certain type of dish! We can quote as many historical txts as you like but try been blessed to listen to Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee Maharaj - God themselves.. They will show us very clearly whats gonna happen to those that clearly try to twist the Morals and Gurbani of God to suit there own little agendas. Kudus to you Mr Mahakaal96 for once again not having the mental capacity to listen to the sangats voices on this thread ---- STICK TO THE TOPIC-----

Here we go again the Saadsangat try to get some honest answers regarding the respect of Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee and some little devious upstart has to continously(not once, the previous poster made it very clear what this topic was about) attempt (all be it very feebly)to try and divert the Sangat and the very essence of this topic away from getting the ONLY answer asked in the title - regarding ALL 3 Channels, not just the Sikh Ch. Big man Mr Mahakaal96 Jee boy do you know how to tell a story, the "old skinny guy" you so lovingly referred to is Ropinder Singh from east london. Hey but you already know that so do I and he also knows who you are. Tell you what im going to do for you (cos i like you so much dear brother) he is is mobile number 07508 821776. Please give him a call straight away - Dont delay ring today.... Question him to your hearts delight, record the conversation and then put it (Just as the TRUE sons of Guru Jee did) on SS, but one small baentee on a NEW TOPIC... cos this ones taken!!!!!

Here we go again the Saadsangat try to get some honest answers regarding the respect of Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee and some little devious upstart has to continously(not once, the previous poster made it very clear what this topic was about) attempt (all be it very feebly)to try and divert the Sangat and the very essence of this topic away from getting the ONLY answer asked in the title - regarding ALL 3 Channels, not just the Sikh Ch. Big man Mr Mahakaal96 Jee boy do you know how to tell a story, the "old skinny guy" you so lovingly referred to is Ropinder Singh from east london. Hey but you already know that so do I and he also knows who you are. Tell you what im going to do for you (cos i like you so much dear brother) he is is mobile number 07508 821776. Please give him a call straight away - Dont delay ring today.... Question him to your hearts delight, record the conversation and then put it (Just as the TRUE sons of Guru Jee did) on SS, but one small baentee on a NEW TOPIC... cos this ones taken!!!!!

its obvious bought by anyone with the money. Lets all guess who it could be in this case hmm.. Just got a call from my cousin in west london saying that the owner of the warehouse - Mr Tirath sinh Bhatia was given a SIROPA at the opening of OUR new London Studio on Sunday in Southall. Bought by who we ask..... Can Mr Sandhu from Sikh Ch pls enlighten the Sangat of what prog he is talking about. Surely hes not mixed up with prog shown on Matv or even just a General Sikhi related progon Sikh Ch..Lol

Dear Singh135 with all due respect how can we use the term "hasty", its been over 3wks since the "Sikh Media" enlightened the Panth with this Breaking News!! There the ones that told us (the Panth) about this situation. Time after time we are told by the media that their sole purpose is to bring the Truth to the Sangat. Saadsangat Jee can there really be any bigger story than one than concerns Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee. If we take a few precious minutes out of busy lives and read the thread on this issue we would easily realize that the Sangat have been literally running around over 3wks begging all the Sikh Media and Panthic Org to help highlight this issue, but it takes a HINDU Ch to do this. Fantastic job by MATV in allowing the TRUTH to come out where others tried desperately to keep it hidden (maybe due to worries about DDs - needed for bigger studios and higher wages!), amazing to see no holds barred coverage to the point of even allowing the Singhs to name and shame the Massands responsible for this Beadbhi.

Truly is a very shameful day for so called Sikh Media, as Bhai Sahib said (eventhough it hurts to say this) we got to be indebted to MATV (Hindu Ch). 1 hour LIVE show(not recorded) without any constrictions to what could be covered as long as the proofs were made available beforehand to the presenter. Personally think both Singhs did a great job in presenting the case in a very articulate and professional manner. Harjap Bhangal (the presenter - never really heard from him before, but know of him) was very good in informing the audience of the True facts and did a fantastic job as a neutral presenter in highlighting the quality of the evidence as opposed to the childish stupidity of the Guru Nanak Darbar Committee.

Fateh Sangat jee I would just like to give everyone an update of the situation regarding Maharajs beadbhi in London. Taranpreet Singh contacted me last night and informed me that a meeting took place on Tuesday evening between members of the Sangat and quite a large number of prominent members from the Afghan Comm. This was also attended by the main reps in the UK of an organisation called Khalsa Diwan (Originally formed in 1980 in Afghanistan). The mtg was arranged at the result of countless phone calls and emails that had been recieved by the Sangat from members of the Afghan Comm across the UK hightlighting their concerns as to how Guru Nanak Darbar Gurdwara Sahib and the Afghan Comm as a whole were being portrayed to the wider sangat. The purpose of the mtg from the Sangat side was to explain in full detail (to produce all relevant proofs) exactly what had been uncovered and raised to the Sangat worldwide. Also to answer any questions raised by anyone openly without fear. With Maharajs beant kirpa the result of the mtg was that once all details and proofs were shared openly every single person (there were both men and women present) agreed wholeheardly that a gross beadbi of Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib had taken place. With Gods Grace sangat from the Afghan Comm gave reassurance to the wider sangat that the real culprits would be singled out and sternly reprimanded by the members of their own comm. The sangat were informed that a statement would be issued asap to the worldwide sangat reiterating the points and resolved in the mtg. At a time when certain members of OUR own media had gone a little too quiet Guru jee reminds us that the real power is in the Saadsangat. Taranpreet Singh was travelling last night im sure he will update us on any new developments. Any mistakes in writing pls accept my apologies.

Thats great guys. Baentee to Admin can we please highlight this topic as a sticky, so more and more awareness can be created. Thank you in advance. Also can someone pls put contact details of all 3 channels on SS, so more members can start requesting the channels to make respect for Guru Jee a priority. Fateh

Fantastic Bhai Sahib, Maharajs kirpa the Seva youve been blessed with of the new site - http://www.discoversikhism.com is already bearing fruit. Bhai Sahib if possible can we please replicate the same to the other 2 channels as well. Fateh

Fateh Jee this video is extremely well delivered by the Singhs who Maharajs has blessed with this mahaan Seva. There can now not be any doubt in anybodys mind that a grave Beadbhi of at least 22 Saroops of Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee Maharaj took place in West London over 10 days ago. Ironically even after all the mass coverage via the internet with fantastic proofs highlighting the disrespect of our eternal Guru Jee, there has still not been any response (of denial or guilt or dare we say an apology to Guru Jee / Saadsangat) whatsoever from the people, who are not only accused but to whom more and more proofs are becoming visible as each day goes by. We do Ardas in Guru Jees Charan for their sake, that this lack of any form of reply by those people responsible is not due to arrogance. With regards the Sikh Ch, I assume that all proofs must have been made available to them by now. So why are they hesitating to do their public duty to the Panth (that contribute to paying their costs) and following up on their initial Mahaan Seva of being shoulder to shoulder with the Sangat when the incident first took place. The whole point of having "our own media" surely is to make the Total Respect of Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee a priority above all else. After all there can NEVER be an "our" without the Satkaar of Guru Jee first and foremost in any project that professes to be representing the Khalsa Panth (the Peoples Ch). I am sure that all steps that the Sikh Ch take must be very carefully structured and all times legitimate. However, for the life of me I cant understand how a sensible debate making available all the evidence on this issue of "our everything" ( Guru Jee should be "our everything") has taken over 10 days to be arranged. Unfortunately this is not one where we can blame foreign governments (back home) or non-sikhs or even dare I say it Ofsted.... This statement applies to all three channels - yes WE now 3 channels we can proudly call "Our Own". All on SKY, All FREE of charge, All it seems just wanting to live happily ever after... but NONE wanting (or so it seems) to be in a hurry to cover REAL stories that should matter the most to the Panth - those regarding Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee Maharaj.. Dhan Sri Guru Arjan Dev Jee Maharaj sat on a burning hot plate for the Total Respect of Gurbani. They recited and lived by the following Pangtee - ਪੋਥੀ ਪਰਮੇਸਰ ਕਾ ਥਾਨੁ ॥ Ang 1226 (They are the Granth Sahib where GOD themselves reside) I implore all members of Sikhsangat to please do our bit. Keep raising awareness via the net, start ringing/emailing all 3 channels to show how much Guru Jees respect actually matters to us. This is also a baentee to ADMIN can we please let this topic become a Sticky (after all what is SS without Respect of Maharaj. I know from day one SS have always made a stand even where others failed.) and for all readers to not only Read but also Comment - Everyones opinion matters, Guru Jee are there for ALL of us equally. Sorry to go off on a rant, apologies if I have offended anybody. This is not usually like me.. must be a Sunday thing....

Thats great Bhai Sahib. Pls keep the Sangat updated on the Sikh Ch latest. If there are any problems then please highlight them as i'm sure all members of Sikhsangat are willing to play their part to make sure the correct media coverage is given to this very important issue.

Thank you Bhai Sahib. As you so rightly pointed out in your post, the Massands seem to hide amongst the Panth with too much ease. Sometimes when we highlight and investigate these kind of unforgivable disrespects to Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee we get distracted from the real issue and the real dushts. This results in counter arguements over petty non related issues (how often does this happen on Sikhsangat), inadvertently making the majority of the Sangat forget the real issues. Hence once again allowing the Massands to integrate with ease amongst the rest of us. With Maharajs blessings lets all stay focused on getting to the truth behind this gross Beadbhi of Akaal Purkh Di Jaag De Jot - Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee. "Discover Sikhism" Bhai Sahibs, fantastic series of questions, is it possible for someone to liase with Sikh Ch to invite commitee members of the Guru Nanak Darbar Gurdwara Sahib, the owners of the warehouse and also members of the Saadsangat to answer all questions live in front of the whole Panth so the whole truth can come out. This way the real Massands will be clearly identified making it impossible for them to hide amongst Guru Jees Pavitar Khalsa Panth and send out very strong ripples to anyone else (no matter who they are) who dares to disrespect Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee - OUR ETERNAL GURU.