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Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh, PLEASE NOTE THIS ISSUE HAS NOW BEEN SORTED! THIS ISSUE HAS NOW BEEN SORTED! Mrs Oberoi lies have now been removed. This issue has now been sorted ! Please note the misrepresentation on Wikipedia is not Wikipedia's fault. It's the fault of whoever posted the article to Wikipedia. Please read on.... Could anybody with a love for the taksal please look at the Wikipedia Article on Damdami Taksal. It seems to totally misrepresent the taksal saying it was not associated to, or initiated by, the Tenth Master Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib Ji Maharaaj. It refers to some conjecture put 'out there' by some individual called 'Oberoi' who almost tries to remove the taksal from history itself, by saying no Sikh work on religion, history, or society eludes to this body (he refers to the taksal as 'this body'). If there are any knowledgeable Sikhs out there who respect the taksal which Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib Ji Maharaaj entrusted to Mahan Warrior Shaheed Baba Deep Singh Ji, then please have a look at this article. Apparently it's just the 'world in general/anybody' that puts the information on Wikipedia. So if there are knowledgeable Sikhs out there, who are Techies too, then please re-write the article. There's an article on Sikhipedia which is truthful and seems to be much much more accurate and respectful. May be the Wikipedia Article should be much closer to the Sikhipedia Article. I'd change it myself but I just haven't got the knowledge on Sikhi like the taksali's have. So it's best a taksali changes it. This is the honest/truthful article, most likely posted by a educated Singh on Sikhipedia http://www.sikhiwiki.../Damdami_taksal Let me repeat, Wikipedia have made no errors here (it's probably just some poor uneducated soul posting the article, thinking they were doing a good turn) Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh.

I think the Satkaar Campaign is brilliant! They are doing a brilliant job. Lets give the movement as much support as possible.

No what I was trying to say was that eating meat is bad enough. But, eating Halal meat is the worst of all!

Oh, I totally agree. No dead animal corpses are allowed for people to force down their throats and into their stomach (otherwise known as eating meat) in any fashion in any Gurdwara. I agree that no meat is allowed at all. I made that point to cover that 'wierd group of sikhs' who say "you can eat meat as a sikh as long as it is NOT halal' . I wanted to make sure that even these people did not have a leg to stand on (or a leg of lamb to stand on in this case) Yeah, I totally agree, No means No - No Meat means No Meat. Thank you for picking me up on that I wouldn't want people to think I agreed with ANY meat in the Gurdwara. I even know trimmed sikhs(muner) who eat meat who would die at the thought of meet in Gurdwara halls You could think that these committee members who organise the meat eating are people paid by anti-sikh agencies to break the Sikh Sangat from their religion. That seems the most obvious answer doesn't it?

I don't think that we should have anything against Radhasoamis, they are just on a journey, a lost journey, but a journey all the same. Most of you think that the Andes is just a long mountain range. However, there are also some people who are 'And'es too! Let me explain: Some people are Radhasoami And Mulsim Some people are Radhasoami And Hindu Some people are Radhasoami And Sikh Some people are Rahdasoami And Christian Some people are Radhasoami And some other religion Now you know who the 'And'es are! A few people are true Radhasoami's, and only believe in the radhaswami cults 2 Saar Bachan scriptures written by the man who started their cult. Most of the other Radhswami's only pretend to be Radhasoami's, and they see these two Saar Bachan scirptures written by the man who started their cult as being totally incomplete and lacking in every way, and that's why they still need to take some readings from religions. You should feel very sorry for them, read the following and look at what they have to go through on a daily basis:- They are ashamed of who they are. That's why they'll never openly tell people that they are a Radhasoami (you'll usually find out months or years after knowing them). Could you ever imagine a Sikh being ashamed to admit they're a Sikh? No, Never. A Sikh is very happy to be a Sikh. They openly admit their 2 scriptures, saar bachan are totally incomplete. So take what suits them from real religous scriptures. Could you ever imagine a Sikh seeing the True Sat Guru, Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaaj as being incomplete? No, Never!!! A Sikh knows that his Sat Guru is totally complete and perfect, and finds total satisfaction in hisTure Sat Guru, Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaaj. When ashamed of being a Radhasoami, a Radhasoami tries to call himself, or herself, a Sikh. That is how ashamed they are of being a Radhasoami!! Could you ever imagine a Sikh ever trying to call him or herself something other than a Sikh??? No, Never!!! A Radhasoami has no history. That's why they still try and attach themselves to Sikh history. This is because they know that all the men who have founded, and been the leaders of their cult, do not have even a very very very small percentage of the amount of respect and bravery (actual acts of bravery) as do the small infant Sahibzadey (sons) of Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaaj. So they admit that any single one of the Sahibzadey, or any of single one of Sikh Shaheeds, were better people than all their cult men leaders put together. Now would a Sikh ever find anything lacking, in his 11 True Sat Gurus, or any of the Sahibzadey, or any of the Shaheeds? No, Never!! So, until Radhaswami's are happy to be Radhasoamis, and Radhasoamis only, themselves, and do not hide it, due to being ashamed of it, then keep away from them, and keep your Children away from them too! Not because we hate the Radhasoami's, but because we pity them for being so lost, and for constantly seeking approval from the only True Sikhs, the Sikhs of Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaaj! Have you ever seen any True Sikhs emailing Radhasoamis to say, please call me a Radhasoami too? No Never!! Becuase Sikhs are happy being Sikh, and don't need to be known as anything, unlike the Radhasoami !!! We can't stop them from calling themselves Sikh's. They are as much Sikh as the pop singer Shania Twain, she's a Radhasoami too. The Muslim, Christian, and Hindus versions can also call themselves Sikhs if they want, it doesn't make them Sikhs. Wouldn't you Still want to associate yourself to the Sikhs, especially if it was just your ego that stopped you from taking the only true Sikh Amrit from the 5 Amritdhari Singhs? The plain and simple, historically recorded, and historically witnessed, fact, is that, Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib Ji Maharaaj clearly gave the Sikhs the Hukam (command) to worship only Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaaj as our only eternal True Sat Guru for ever more! And no Other!

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh. May be the committee members who facilitate this drinking to show that their strength is greater than that of the 10 guru's Jot, Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaaj, should ask themselves the following questions:- They should ask themselves, how many sikh children, watching 'their' adults, drinking alcohol, in a building, clearer associated to the Gurdwara, will drink alcohol when they grow up? Can they give a number/estimate? They should ask themselves, how many of these Sikh children will become alcoholics, and then suffer any of the many many many problems associated with alcohol? Can they give a number/estimate? They should ask themselves, could we be manipulating innocent Sikh Children to eat not only meat in the Gurdware Halls (which is totally wrong), but even worse, could halal meat be brought in by the caterers? They should ask themselves, when the 'men', have had a drink of alcohol, and they see the mothers, sisters, and daughters of their friends and relatives dance, will any inappropriate thoughts come into the minds of these 'men'? Can the committee members guarantee that the thoughts of the drunk/partly drunk men will not be inappropriate??? Why can't this drinking of alcohol, and chewing of dead animal corpses (sometimes baby animals - lambs), be done on the 99.9999999999......% percentage of this earth where it's allowed? . Why is it so important for 'them', to swallow animal corpses, and drink alcohol, on the very very very small percentage of this earth, where it should not be drank i.e. in the Gurdwara Halls? Why there?? They have the rest of the world to do it in, why in the Gurdware Halls???? Do these commitee members really believe that Guru Ji will bless them, for making these 'men', drink alcohol, in front of their mothers, sisters, and daughters, in a Gurdwara Hall? Would they even entertain the idea of answering any of the above questions?? We all know that we can furnish these committe members with hundreds of shabads from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaaj explaining why they should not manipulate these 'men' into drinking alcohol, in the Gurdware Halls? But that's no good at all, because, they'll just ignore all the shabads. And that's the most confusing part... how can they ignore the very same Guru Ji, they claim to worship???? Most of all, they should ask themselves, do we even care? Or respect even ourselves? It a shame that these poor soles are wasting their lives! May Vaheguru bless all the Gursikhs, and their families, who are actively trying to stop this beadbi. Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh. May be the committee members who facilitate this drinking to show that their strength is greater than that of the 10 guru's Jot, Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaaj, should ask themselves the following questions:- They should ask themselves, how many sikh children, watching 'their' adults, drinking alcohol, in a building, clearer associated to the Gurdwara, will drink alcohol when they grow up? Can they give a number/estimate? They should ask themselves, how many of these Sikh children will become alcoholics, and then suffer any of the many many many problems associated with alcohol? Can they give a number/estimate? They should ask themselves, are they certain all the meat will not be halal? The halal and non-halal meat chain in this country is seriously messed up. Muslims complain about it all the time... the mix up is both ways!!! Can these committee members guarantee they won't be feeding Sikh children halal meat in the Gurdware Halls? (By the way I know that no meat should be eaten in the Gurdwara, Halal or not Halal !!!). They should ask themselves, when the 'men', have had a drink of alcohol, and they see the mothers, sisters, and daughters of their friends and relatives dance, will any inappropriate thoughts come into the minds of these 'men'? Can the committee members guarantee that the thoughts of the drunk/partly drunk men will not be inappropriate??? Why can't this drinking of alcohol, and chewing of dead animal corpses (sometimes baby animals - lambs), be done on the 99.9999999999......% percentage of this earth where it's allowed? . Why is it so important for 'them', to swallow animal corpses, and drink alcohol, on the very very very small percentage of this earth, where it should not be drank i.e. in the Gurdwara Halls? Why there?? They have the rest of the world to do it in, why in the Gurdware Halls???? Do these commitee members really believe that Guru Ji will bless them, for making these 'men', drink alcohol, in front of their mothers, sisters, and daughters, in a Gurdwara Hall? Would they even entertain the idea of answering any of the above questions?? We all know that we can furnish these committe members with hundreds of shabads from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaaj explaining why they should not manipulate these 'men' into drinking alcohol, in the Gurdware Halls? But that's no good at all, because, they'll just ignore all the shabads. And that's the most confusing part... how can they ignore the very same Guru Ji, they claim to worship???? May Vaheguru bless all the Gursikhs, and their families, who are actively trying to stop this beadbi. Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, We have 3 Sikhi Channels in the UK. The one that broadcasts the most speeches and recordings of Sant Jarnail Singh Jee will have the highest ratings, viewers, and support, financial or otherwise, from the Sangat. It's that simple. The Sikh Sangat will naturally be drawn towards the truth. I think all 3 channels are doing a great job and will grow each year! Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa