Dudleysingh

Trust me these number are not beyond me, your soooo up your own! how did you fund your place in osterly.... gurdwara funds Give up ....i dont give a too hoots. your just a typical joker from london, trust me i meet them every week, Joker,

I dont need any warmth of you guys, nor from Gandi & co.... You lot just cant take anyone challanging your views, if its not your way..its the hight road...... Like i said you lot are welcome to your vistory and this site... loosers WHY DONT YOU GO AND JOIN ANOTHER FAITH. WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ??? YOU QUESTION MY BELIEFS, JUST TAKE A LOOK AT YOURSELF. Well said, and very true.

hay, no need to speculate, i saw what happened in dudley myself, ahh so west london, you boys all live in shed's on teh fight path to heathrow, so the cheap seats of london town, and all work at the airport as cleaners, atleast the people of dudley are hard working and have time for each other. you londoners dont even speak to each other with a smile, its always why u speaking to me! and you talk about poverty. when you develop some warmth for another person in the world then speak ,

Who do you think you are questioning my sikh beliefs, just take a look at what was achieved on saturday and question your own moral values, If you are proud of saturday , then you must me a minority. i dont believe the guru's hukam supports intolorance, or agression to another person. you obviously have doubts in your beliefs, to even question another persons. all ther reports of militants are correct , that the only way to describe the tribal action that is taking place in the name of the Guru. YOU ARE WELCOME TO YOUR VICTORY - hope you are all very proud of what you achieved.

Looks like satkar had their own brand of Sikhi on saturday, YOU ARE WELCOME TO YOUR NEW SIKHI WORLD Wich supports violance , agrression, vandalism, and intimidation.... I dont have a new version, Sikh sangat does!

Get real, so the satkar is above the law,or you got your own laws,

That rich isn't it.. the way this protest went about on saturday, it was certainly somthing form the dark ages. criminal acts were commited, againt people and peoperty FACT if there are issues with the committe , thats a different matter. The actions of individuals dring the whole stakar campaign into question, its methods, its tactics, and its organisation or ability to control what it creates. If there are issues with the ploice's action on saturday, then bring them to account.

So what are you trying to say ... your not a sikh if you've not done amrit? or ar you just doing an add for a local function hall?

lol, get a life, nothing wrong with people form 'up north, alteast they have more time for one another.

well the video speaks a 1000 words, This is the UK after all, and UK law is important, just as you respect the rules of the road, theres certain times that you need to respect the law. He is correct that they have to take account of the covernants on the land, The Akal takht does not preside over te UK Law. an you all know that , other wise the M25 would have 30 lanes, all going in different directions.

This is no justification of the actions that did take place. fact 3 people in hospital# crimanal damage FACT dosent matter how much simran took place , these acts over shadow this. you can call them lions, i will call them criminals. we have different words your a teenager, and you live in 21st century UK, people using raceism with sikhs is nothing new, I've lived through a lot worse, just ask your parents.

So you are happy for violance to take place on the streats of the UK by Sikh's who preach Sikhi on site like this... bit like you. I'm not preaching Sikhi, or sat that i know the ins and outs of sikhi, BUT i do know whats right and wrong , An act of violance is WRONG, Sikh history cant justify this in the 21st century. stop living in the past . The uk has laws aginst such acts, So what are these boys going to use in their defence... ' we did this cos were sikh' and blame sikhi. they are nothing more than common thugs

Well well, the truth hurts .... i am embaresed by the actions that too place on saturday. so you are appy for people to behave like criminals in law, therese 2 different issues here, i'm not defending the events that took place in the hall, i am however challanging the actions of saturday. this is paid for by dudley peeople, not satkar, sikh channel, the alak takth. now find the funding to pay for the upkeep of the building. the acts of saturday are criminal, there is no deffence for this action. not sikhi in any way

The sikh channel ....well when a presenter is using foul language, then that says it all.

This is my Gurdwara too, now sceens like this upset me too. Thugs ,violance , criminal damage, Split Langar if your happy with what was achieved, then your the minority. ask the people of dudley. I'd call the people who did this criminals, Well done , i hope your all proud of your actions. you deserve to hang your head's in shame for this.

If you believe its a positive result was achieved , then you need to take a hard look at what was achieved, and the methods used. they are some what primitive , and from the 1800's. this is the 21st century, and this country has Laws. An act of violance is a criminal offence, the manor in which papers were signed, is probably criminal too. you decide!

well the papers that the gurdwara was asked to sign mean that they cant sell the building, so to retain it, funding is needed, basic maths!. The building was funded by the people of dudley,so ultiimatly its owned by them. Even if the door are left closed, there are still cost involved. What i would like to see is open dialogue by the people who arranged the campaign on saturday, around how they will support the gurdwara's (not just dudley) to fund the upkeep.

thanks for your response, this is the type of conversatios that need to take place, if the objective is to retain these facilities & sustain the gurdwara's Unfortunatly , money has to come from somwere to be spent. there hass to be a balance between income & spend, and engage the community, it could be used for conference facilities, (vegi one only) but this limits its appeal to the broad community.

to be fair, shutting down the gurdwara is probably not a viable option, its been ther for 40 years.... now you do make some vailid points on the activities that can happen there, but remember its a community facility... ie not just Sikh.. thats the basis of the planning permission. these activities use funds, and i know you say the sangat will donate. there no place that crages £300 for use of its hall, anywere in the uk, lets be realistic. like i said some good points, closure is not a real option, to be fair, shutting down the gurdwara is probably not a viable option, its been ther for 40 years.... now you do make some vailid points on the activities that can happen there, but remember its a community facility... ie not just Sikh.. thats the basis of the planning permission. these activities use funds, and i know you say the sangat will donate. there no place that charges £300 for use of its hall, anywere in the uk, lets be realistic. like i said some good points, closure is not a real option,

Thanks for your honesty, so 1st option...what your saying is for GNSS to close its doors for good. any thoughts for funding the facilities, your comments would be appreciated. for the record i'm against the methods used, and like anyone, i dont garee with meat and booze in the Gurdwara building itself. its not about being clever someone comes and smashes up the building ..then yes they are victims, its the law of the land

one act of violance is one too many you know that.

So this is an open question.... what the proposal of the sikh sangat, sikh TV, Sikh channel, and the akal takth - to fund the upkeep of the hall? you've got them to sign that they cant sell it. they have to find money to fix it, and any other costs associated with saturday what the proposal, you looking at around £30K per year. pls be realistic just for one moment and i dont mean anything to do with meat , booze or parties.

But your not above the law of the land... if you dont agree, fair enough. but in the uk property has a value, so do people 2 people and a PC were injured.... how can you allow for this to happen, and still be proud. anyone who has seen the signed documents know that there not worth the paper they are written on... i have seen them, theres even a plea for the release of those arrested. though this campaign was went to have staying power, or dont you want your boys behind bars. Well said... respect

So yes i do have Singh in my name, what gives you the right to comment on me having singh in my name,? Sikhi is about tollorance or has that been forgotten, and i didnt see any drunk men there....did you? So your a reader of The Sun news paper.... or is that just for the pictures. were's your Sikhi gone now?

Just typical, so if anyone had an opinion of what took place in their 'back yard' its slandering the sikh sangat. yes i do have singh in my name, just like you. well hope that you are proud. a single act of violance is one act too many , dosent matter that an hour of simran took place. but YOU CANT SAY VIOLANCE is acceptable behavior. if you find that hard to read .... so be it. yes do think it was Militant behavior. And i didnt know that you had readers of THE SUN in the sikh sangat , not very Sikhi now!