WaljinderSingh

Nope. I only don't like you. LOL! I'm not going anywhere buddy until the Admins decide otherwise. I enjoy being a bee in your bonnet. LOL!!!!

You are definitely a big troll.

I'm well read on the forum rules. Nowhere does it state I must agree with you nor have I insulted anybody.

Read again and stop arguing.

What's your purpose of sticking on here if you hold a dislike for many of the members.

Quantavius, if you don't like us or the forum in general, you should leave - with immediate effect - to stop wasting your own time.

he has been excommunicated so forget the past he is NO LONGER A SIKH

Excommunicated by 'Akaal Takhat' to be precise...

So were shaheed Baba Gurbachan Singh Manochal and shaheed Jathedar Gurdev Singh Kaunke. Both were jathedaars of Akaal takhat. Both were students and preachers of DDT ( have immense knowledge of Dasam and SGGS bani and Sikh history). Kaunke got shaheed while he was Jathedaar of Akaal takhat.

DDT - Damdami Taksal.

Quantavius you should stop arguing now.

Darahan rogi qualification is matriculation (10th grade) and a diploma in Music from Missionary college.

Sons and daughters of Guru Gobind Singh ji read and get the anand because they get the essence and understand their father's language.

Atheists and people with doubtful minds fail in doing so because they reject his Hukam and ideology which is true sign of Bemukh. It's beyond their brain-capacity to grasp the true meaning for which they lack Guru's kirpa and are certainly not naadi descendants of Dasve paatshah.

Missionary co. Ludhiana has been producing a lot of gande andey these days.

enjoy:

BOLE SO NIHAAAAL!!!!!

Gurbar Akaal,

chitia baaja wale Satguru

Rakhlio bird baney di laaj,

Chito gupto shaheedo Singho,

Sarbat Guru Khalsa, Singh Sahib ji ko

SAT SRI AKAAAALUHHHHH!!!!!!

Im sure that story has been confirmed as made up/fake.

And your surety is based on what?

If you look at it from afar, you'll find both sides do it for the LOVE of Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Nirankaar Ji! - Those for it, say it's his and the reasons for it being very explicit, sexual etc etc - Those who are against it, are so because they say there is not way Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Nirankaar Ji! can write such things, or can be associated with him. SO it's all out of love, at the end of the day SGGS is GURU and that's all that matters. It has authority over ALL other Granths authentic or otherwise :)

People who do Ninda of Dasam pita bani do not love Guru Gobind Singh ji.

Dare I say that they all are atheists to the core.

Just finished watching this. Bhai Sahib is an inspiration, his account is special considering how from the age of 6 onwards he had the taang to learn about different faiths, and here he talks about his upbringing, the initial challenges he faced from as he puts it 'staunch' Catholic mother and school, lack of support from committee Sikhs in Jakarta and the affection from Gursikhs in Singapore, to finally having the chance of taking Amrit.

Dhan Guru Nanak dev ji

Dhan Guru Gobind Singh ji

Dhan Shaheed Singh

Dhan Mahapurkh

Hello Low IQ Pendu, Wikipedia by itself is not a source. It is irrelevant who they quote as the information can be edited by anybody. I stand corrected.

Please stop making a fool out of yourself. You are clearly not educated beyond high school. Even that, I have my doubts.

From wiki itself

Wikipedia is not considered a credible source. Wikipedia is increasingly used by people in the academic community, from freshman students to professors, as an easily accessibletertiary source for information about anything and everything. However, citation of Wikipedia in research papers may be considered unacceptable, because Wikipedia is not considered a credible or authoritative source.^[1][2][3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academic_use

From Harvard

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There's nothing more convenient than Wikipedia if you're looking for some quick information, and when the stakes are low (you need a piece of information to settle a bet with your roommate, or you want to get a basic sense of what something means before starting more in-depth research), you may get what you need from Wikipedia. In fact, some instructors may advise their students to read entries for scientific concepts on Wikipedia as a way to begin understanding those concepts.

Nevertheless, when you're doing academic research, you should be extremely cautious about using Wikipedia. As its own disclaimer states, information on Wikipedia is contributed by anyone who wants to post material, and the expertise of the posters is not taken into consideration. Users may be reading information that is outdated or that has been posted by someone who is not an expert in the field or by someone who wishes to provide misinformation. (Case in point: Four years ago, an Expos student who was writing a paper about the limitations of Wikipedia posted a fictional entry for himself, stating that he was the mayor of a small town in China. Four years later, if you type in his name, or if you do a subject search on Wikipedia for mayors of towns in China, you will still find this fictional entry.) Some information on Wikipedia may well be accurate, but because experts do not review the site's entries, there is a considerable risk in relying on this source for your essays.

http://isites.harvard.edu/icb/icb.do?keyword=k70847&pageid=icb.page346376

Super brainy 'bigot-troll', use the references to cross-reference the figures which Johny posted - if you are really interested in learning anything.

Your learning curve on this forum is zero.

I can't believe you're quoting WIKIPEDIA and calling me ignorant. Dear Johnny, Wikipedia is not a 'source'. It is not considered a source because anybody buffoon can write anything there. You can go there and write Sikhs are from Mars. Anybody can even go there and edit those articles. Do you know I can go into the part where you quoted and edit it? Wikipedia is not accepted anywhere as a source. You can't submit a University paper and quote Wikipedia. Not as a 'primary source' anyway. 600 trillion looted? Why not go for gold and 6 Zillion or even infinity?

What is a source? A source is where someone has done genuine research and that research is usually peer reviewed. It is usually done by historians submitting a thesis paper or writing a book and it is usually peer reviewed, much like scientific journals. To understand what I mean by a source, go buy any history book and you'll see at the table of contents or bibliography where the writer quotes his source.

By the way, GDP is not a measure of wealth. It is merely the output created by a nation. India today has far higher GDP then smaller countries like Finland or Singapore. Yet, Singaporeans and Finnish people have a far higher standard of living then the average Indian so much so, they are not even comparable anymore. Your entire premise that GDP equates wealth for the individual in a nation is false. You need to educate yourself on what constitutes wealth of the individual in a nation means.

As for the rest of your nonsense, it is complete utter bollocks. There are millions of books written of the everyday life of the average Indian. They were not living in the lap of luxury. The average Indian was poor. I won't even go to how the low caste lived. Indian society was a stratified society. If you were a leader or in royalty, your life was set. The others who had it ok were the priests and merchants. The rest lived very poor lives. Every single book or history mentions Indians as being poor. I have never read a single book depicting the average Indian as being rich. They were all poor. That is how langar in the Gurdwaras first started, to cater to the massive number of poor people who didn't have food on their table. If not for poor people, Sikhism would have died at it's infancy as they were the biggest number of converts.You are seriously deluding yourself on Indians being rich.

The religious persecution from the Muslims was tied with economics. Learn how things work. It is used as a means to attack and forfeit ones land and wealth against those who fought back.

Stop being a Low IQ Pendu. Learn to think instead of regurgitating the same lies and nonsense you heard from your close circle of Low IQ Pendu friends.

Hello mr troll. Look down into references section of the Wikipedia page. I would call them 'reliable' sources for sure - peer reviewed.

Yeah. I also believe the world is flat and we're ruled by reptiles

Lol

A Sikh shouldn't be afraid of going to hell. Whatever Guru Sahib have written is because His humbleness.

"Gur Parmeshar Eiko jaan " (SGGS)

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VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

Vaaran Bhai Gurdas Ji

੩੬ : ਜ਼ਾਹਰੀ ਕਲਾ।

ਪੁਛੇ ਪੀਰ ਤਕਰਾਰ ਕਰਿ ਏਹ ਫਕੀਰ ਵਡਾ ਅਤਾਈ।

Pouchhay Peer Takaraar Kari Ayhu Dhakeeru Vadaa Ataaee.

पुछे पीर तकरार करि एहु फकीरु वडा अताई ।

The pir (Dastagir) debated and came to know that this faquir is much more powerful.

1 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੩੬ ਪੰ. ੧

ਏਥੇ ਵਿਚਿ ਬਗਦਾਦ ਦੇ ਵਡੀ ਕਰਾਮਾਤਿ ਦਿਖਲਾਈ।

Ayday Vichi Bagadaad Day Vadee Karaamaati Dikhalaaee.

एथे विचि बगदाद दे वडी करामाति दिखलाई ।

Here in Baghdad he has shown a great miracle.

2 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੩੬ ਪੰ. ੨

ਪਾਤਾਲਾ ਆਕਾਸ ਲਖ ਓੜਕਿ ਭਾਲੀ ਖਬਰੁ ਸੁਣਾਈ।

Paataalaa Aakaas Lakhi Aorhaki Bhaalee Khabari Sounaaee.

पाताला आकास लखि ओड़कि भाली खबरि सुणाई ।

Meanwhile he (Baba Nanak) talked about myriads of netherworlds and skies.

3 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੩੬ ਪੰ. ੩

ਫੇਰਿ ਦੁਰਾਇਣ ਦਸਤਗੀਰ ਅਸੀ ਭਿ ਵੇਖਾ ਜੋ ਤੁਹਿ ਪਾਈ।

Dhayri Duraain Dasatageer Asee Bhi Vaykhaa Jo Tuhi Paaee.

फेरि दुराइन दसतगीर असी भि वेखा जो तुहि पाई ।

Pir Dastegir asked (the Baba) to show him whatever he had seen.

4 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੩੬ ਪੰ. ੪

ਨਾਲਿ ਲੀਤਾ ਬੇਟਾ ਪੀਰ ਦਾ ਅਖੀ ਮੀਟਿ ਗਇਆ ਹਵਾਈ।

Naali Leetaa Baytaa Peer Daa Akhee Meeti Gaiaa Havaaee.

नालि लीता बेटा पीर दा अखी मीटि गइआ हवाई ।

Guru Nanak Dev taking along with him the son of the pir, melted into thin air.

5 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੩੬ ਪੰ. ੫

ਲਖ ਆਕਾਸ ਪਤਾਲ ਲਖ ਅਖਿ ਫੁਰੰਕ ਵਿਚਿ ਸਭਿ ਦਿਖਲਾਈ।

Lakh Aakaas Pataal Lakh Akhi Phurak Vichi Sabhi Dikhalaaee.

लख आकास पताल लख अखि फुरक विचि सभि दिखलाई ।

And in a wink of eye visualized him the upper and lower worlds.

6 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੩੬ ਪੰ. ੬

ਭਰਿ ਕਚਕੌਲ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ਦਾ ਧੁਰੋ ਪਤਾਲੋ ਲਈ ਕੜਾਹੀ।

Bhari Kachakaul Prasaadi Daa Dhuro Pataalo Laee Karhaahee.

भरि कचकौल प्रसादि दा धुरो पतालो लई कड़ाही ।

From the nether world he brought a bowl full of sacred food and handed it over to pir.

7 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੩੬ ਪੰ. ੭

ਜਾਹਰ ਕਲਾ ਨ ਛਪੈ ਛਪਾਈ ॥੩੬॥

Jaahar Kalaa N Chhapai Chhapaaee ॥36॥

जाहर कला न छपै छपाई ॥३६॥

This manifest power (of the Guru) cannot be made to hide.

8 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੩੬ ਪੰ. ੮

https://searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/1/pauri/36

This is the perfect answer to op's question.

Note parshaad brought from every planet they visited.

Krishan ji were the duaper yug avtar and were full fledged with 16 skills by Akaalpurkh ji. He, like other avtaars asked his followers to see him as Paarbrahm Parmeshr. Guru Sahibs , although sarb kla (all skills) samrath and one with the Lord, always preached being humble servant of Him and do pooja of Akaalpurkh.

A character named Quantavius has become a huge troll. Stop feeding it.

Quantavius, take this as a warning. You were successful in sneaking through many barriers but now you are caught red handed. Don't question the authenticity of Dasam granth and draw parallels with other faiths. People on here are wise enough to understand what you are up to.

Bundha ji your art is really amazing. Is this your full time profession if I may ask?