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7 minutes ago, proactive said:Watch this videos. There is a Singh called Pal Kharod who has been active with a small jathebandi of Singhs who raid Gujjar Deras and recue mentally challenged people who they have abducted and forced to work for them and kept them in slavish conditions. These Gujjars have also been accused of striking people normal people on the head so that they suffer brain injuries and they can then be kept as slaves to do manual labour for them. He also raids Gaushalas as well where there are people also kept like the Gujjars keep.
I’ve seen Pal Kharod and his organisation on YouTube exposing this disgusting behaviour.
There is simple solution to ridding Punjab from this Kanjar tribe without resorting to violent agitation against them. The Gujjars are in Punjab because they earn their living from selling Milk to Punjabi Sikh and Hindus. Stop buying Milk from the Gujjars and they will no longer reside in Punjab. They are nomadic people and will move on to the next sucker who buys their product. The same goes for Bihari Bhaye, they moved back to Bihar during Covid lockdown when manual labour was restricted.
Completely boycott their services and watch them run from Punjab.
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4 minutes ago, californiasardar1 said:I guess our Gurus must have been immature and fixated on appearance because they made keeping kesh mandatory. If only they were more enlightened and could have understood that appearance does not matter!
And please explain what his death in a traffic accident has to do with him supposedly caring about Sikhi.
I’m not going to answer this. The reason for this, I think you need to start researching for yourself and you need train your mind to gather information from various sources and develop the ability to have deeper understanding before you draw conclusion. This skill set is what separates intelligent adult thought to child mindset that relies on being drip fed information, which can lead to being manipulated and ultimately relying on others for information whether it’s false or true. Good luck!
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2 minutes ago, californiasardar1 said:You people are so quick to celebrate someone as some sort of panthic hero because he said a few nice things about Bhindranwale. Is that how low your bar is? Actions speak louder than words, and if he actually cared about Sikhi he wouldn't be living a lifestyle that is so clearly at odds with a Gurmat lifestyle.
Aside from his personal conduct, it is sad that Sikhs are so quick to make a hero out of someone whose political motivations and intentions seemed questionable at best.
If he didn’t care about Sikhi, he’d be alive today! The fact that he is no longer with us is speaks for itself regarding his ‘actions’. Your too fixated on appearance and too immature to look beyond that.
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11 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:It's scary though dude. It looks like there ain't a shred of integrity in the politics out there.
Even if someone decent came up, it just looks like they'll be knocked off or compromised in no time.
I agree! Remember these celebrities are just tools that are implemented to heard the sheep in directions. The shepherds are powerful and can make and destroy you in a blink of an eye. Dangle a carrot and most people will compromise themselves. Those who refuse are threatened, whether by tax inquiries, visa restrictions or industry boycott. To stand up you have to be really strong willed and have strong belief in the All mighty.
Deep Sidhu walked away from the industry and challenged India’s democracy. He went further and challenged the World Powers, with his open criticism of the ‘New World Order’. When you become vocal on these issues and start ruffling those feather's, then you are an open target.
The sad truth is you have operate within the system to initiate change, to go further I'd say to even be allowed to exist.5 -
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2 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:Yesterday he was a boliyan paa-ing casteist , today he is a congress leader........flipping hell.
I bet you he'll switch to some other party sooner or later.
That’s why they call those in that profession ‘Kanjars’. Throw them a penny and they will dance to any tune.
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8 hours ago, californiasardar1 said:This hypocrisy is not surprising.
We just have to look at his lifestyle. Why does a 37-year-old man have a "girlfriend"? Since when are premarital relations accepted in Sikhi? And if this guy had so much love for Sikhi, why did he voluntarily choose to look like a Hindu instead?
It is sad that he died. But people making him out to be some sort champion of the cause are mistaken.
What is wrong with you? Do you judge people because of their relationship or marital status or do you form opinions on their courage to speak what is unspeakable in Puniab. He is the champion of the cause and he may have been Patit in his appearance, but he was more Panthic than any of the Blue Turbaned Jathedars with the flowing beards. He spoke up for the rights of the Sikh Quom and the people of Punjab. He was a diamond, a breath of fresh air who was natural born leader.
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1 hour ago, proactive said:You can take the Hindu out of his Indian slum but you cannot take the slum out of the Hindu.
I wouldn’t worry too much about this fudhu bhaman, he’s just putting in the hours to buy the latest ‘Authentic rubber Turbo MK2 Chapal’. 100 more anti-Sikh posts and he’s on his way to being the trendiest bhaman in his basti.
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11 hours ago, Arsh1469 said:We need a Sikh state but before talking about all the land we want and what we will conquer think of the logistics. Firstly how to create a state? Who will run it? What will the laws be? How to create an army police emergency services etc. The economics? And so many more. We should talk about these things not about should we have a state but how can we get a state and how will it work.
I should have mentioned that this thought process is also a sign of cowardice.
You buy your house first then you buy your furniture, not the other way round. When India, Pakistan and Bangladesh were formed, these answers were not demanded before the handover of power and neither have any countries been required to present a written or verbal constitution before attaining freedom.
The first stage is freedom from present occupation, the second stage is to manage a peaceful transfer of power and the institutions which are in control, then a constitution is written, then finally you implement and work hard and smart to develop your country with all its institutions.
We are at stage one!
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9 hours ago, shastarSingh said:When talking about khalistan with fellow Sikhs, I hv heard many say that
"bass gurbani parrho, khalistan apne aap bann ju"
"Read gurbani and khalistan will automatically come into exitence"
Is the above logic fine or is a sign of cowardice?
Cowardice has many shapes and forms when it come down to the topic of ‘Khalistan’.
Some say the whole world should be Khalistan not just Punjab.
Some say Khalistan should be made in Pakistan Punjab before Indian Punjab.
Some say everyone must become Khalsa before we talk about Khalistan.
Some say Khalistan should only be the demand of people within Punjab.
Some say Referendum will not achieve Khalistan.
Some choose to ignore the subject and stay silent like the majority on this forum.
All are mostly signs of cowardice! Your wasting your time about this subject on this forum, as the majority of posters here are people who are disconnected from the real world.
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6 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:
That's all you low IQ peasants have. African jokes?? lol!!!
Actually I called you fudhu, kuteer, shadai, bandar but ‘Africa’ hit the nerve better than any insult.
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On 5/25/2021 at 4:19 PM, dallysingh101 said:I think the greatest danger that we face is our own people's lack of unity, and the key culprit for that mess, is simply caste. Nail this, and we'll be united and strong.
Fail to do this, and I think the consequences are obvious.
I think all the people who sweep this under the rug should be ashamed of themselves and are guilty of putting us in danger more than any outsider.
I think you do exactly what you despise the most. You clearly have a inferiority complex, which triggers a defence mechanism inside you, which goes on the offensive to bring down a certain caste or community. This kind anger is not healthy and neither does this create unity.
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17 minutes ago, Premi5 said:
I think it’s because of someone doesn’t know Gurmukhi , they don’t appreciate the Bh- sound as much and not know difference between ‘pappa’ and ‘’bhabha’
in Gurmukhi
It’s just a regional thing. The same as when people from Doaba pronounce the V&W’s as B’s, such as Vaal/Baal, Vatta/Batta, Vinga/Binga, Vaisakhi/Baisakhi, Video/Bideo and not forgetting Window/Bindow. Slight differences between Maja, Doaba and Malwa.
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10 hours ago, californiasardar1 said:Surely there is a better way to make a living than getting hit in the head over and over again.
I wish this guy luck, but it is unfortunate that he chose this career path.
If you have the right skills you can minimise getting hit in the head. The sweet science is just as much about being evasive as being offensive. If this young Singh makes it all the way, then he will be role model for many more who will surely follow this path. I hope he goes all the way.
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22 hours ago, dharamyudh said:I honestly pray for the day where we rid ourselves from these labels and divisions that are between us. We need to move like a nation. We have separated ourselves by putting importance on worldly titles/ethnicity that have no real significance when we should only align ourselves with the panth and our beautiful nishan sahib. Our biggest enemies is ourselves.
I was going to contribute and challenge people more on Caste on this thread, but to be honest ‘dharamyudh’ has summed up everything perfectly.
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5 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:Have to say, there is no excuse for what certain apnay in Africa did. I condemn it, and the people involved should be ashamed and punished to deter others (if I had my way).
Also on that note, certain pendu Juts need to acknowledge and admit their own role in creating a caste based apartheid system in the villages of Panjab, that has led to hordes of people from previously Sikh backgrounds to convert to other faiths. Bravo......
They should be punished too.
Finally we both agree on something.
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2 hours ago, ChardikalaUK said:
Yes you can admire him as a ruler but should his portrait be placed in Gurdwaras alongside pious men like the Gurus, Baba Deep Singh, Hari Singh Nalwa and Banda Singh Bahadur?
If his portrait invokes a desire to be free then yes. He still has a part to play in the pursuing freedom. Until that pursuit is fulfilled we can’t just simply discard him to the history books. Don’t forget the British Empire went to extremes to suppress his history and legacy, because they knew he could spark a revolution even from his tomb.
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3 hours ago, californiasardar1 said:Sorry, but can someone explain to me why we should care about this woman, or her drunk, womanizing husband, or her short, dimwitted, useless son?
Regardless what anyone feels about the individuals you are questioning, the history is still fairy new and relevant. Ranjit Singh showed he was able to establish a secular and inclusive Kingdom during a time when most of the western world was ruling their lands in quite the opposite fashion. Jind Kaur was exiled after the death of her King and put in prison and separated from her son to insure no reclaim of the throne could be made. Duleep Singh had been groomed to live in England and Christianity was forced upon him at very young age. He eventually returned to Sikhi and after being reunited with his mother, he desired to reclaim his his Kingdom but was denied of this by the British establishment of the time. He was finally denied of his last funeral rights by Sikh faith and buried according to Christian traditions. His grave still lies in Thetford. Ranjit Singhs throne is kept at the V&A museum and the Kohinoor is inset into the Crown.
Why is this relevant because the present condition of the the world 5th largest faith group is connected to all these events. We are a distinct group of people with a rich history and faith and we will need to recite our history to the world powers if we are ever going to reclaim our homeland. This is not ancient history and those who have denied us our freedom and put us in this tragic situation need to own up to their mistakes and support our cause for freedom. This is why we should care about these people and this why we should never forget what happened to us.
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15 minutes ago, scali said:
This is what Radhaswamis do. There Baba is an imposter.
They’re proper haraamis . They go to the Gurughars for births, marriage and funerals but in between they bow their heads to their Kanjar baba. Proper joke outfit. All these imposters need a proper shitar parade.
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3 hours ago, justasking said:Jatts are very open accepting ppl sure they have downfalls but all community do and ive never ever seen jatt only gurdwara. most canadian karkhus were jatt saini or rajput/mahton like Lakhbir Singh Brar(Jatt and Sant Ji Nephew) Inderjit Singh Reyat (ramgharia caught by intelligence testing explosives in forest in Vancouver Island) perhaps most notorious of all Talwinder Singh Parmar(Rajput/Mahton scapegoat for allegedly blew up air india plane)
Yes absolutely correct Jats are a very inclusive and open community and played a huge part in the Kharku lehar, as did many other communities especially the Mazbi Sikhs. I’m just sick of the constant Jat bashing that goes on and credit should be due for the positives that this community has given. I for one am completely against the caste system, but if somebody is proud of their heritage and culture that doesn’t mean that makes them a supremest. A progressive approach is to discard your negatives and promote and protect your positives.
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14 hours ago, Premi5 said:No, he was Ramgarhia according to Wiki:
Yeh that’s my point. He had a support base in the UK from Kenyan Sikhs because of his caste. He was a senior a Congress politician that’s why Oversees Congress Party made up of Kenyan Ramgharia Sikhs never withdrew their support for the Congress Party even after 1984 Bluestar attack. It was a different story in Punjab because the Tarkhan/Ramgharia community have a connection to the land and more so their faith. Loyalties differ from the two communities. I must say that the Kenyan Ramgharia community did not do anything to damage the Khalistan movement but did not do anything to support it, nor did they play any part in protesting against the Indian government. Really shameful if you ask me!
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14 hours ago, puzzled said:
The city Sikh type folks despite wearing paghs and keeping dharis are just useless, even though they seem to think they are a voice for the rest of the community. Like I said, they would be the first ones to call for an Uber and leave the scene.
They’re no different to their forefathers. They played zero part in the Khalistan movement. One because Giani Zail Singh was from their caste and the other they have no feelings of belonging to Punjab. They actually hosted Indian Corgress politicians in their Ramgharia Halls in the 1980’s whilst rest of the Sikh diaspora was fighting back. Their loyalty lies with their caste and Kenya.
City Sikhs are the same, they have created their own segregation based upon caste and economic class. They will always create divisions, being inclusive doesn’t exist in their vocabulary.
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45 minutes ago, puzzled said:It was quite bad apparently. I knew a lady who said Black men broke into their house in Kenya, took the nalas out of her salwars and lenghas and tied her hands up with the nalas and all her families hands and robbed the entire house! The Black slaves they kept were also tied up with the nalas. She said it was the local Blacks who were anti-Indian and the policemen who did the robberies! She said every night atleast one house was broken into like that in her area. The same happened to the Gujjus.
I tried keeping a straight face when she said all the nalas were taken out of her salwars and lenghas to tie their hands up! I hope I did!
I'd imagine these experiences were quite traumatic!
Yeh I did hear it was really bad for them. I also heard that quite a large proportion of the people that turned on them were the servants that worked for them. You won’t hear any of the Kenyan crew talk about how they morphed into the ‘brown imperialists’ working for their firangi masters. They treated their black servants like dirt. They would go on hunts and have black servants run behind their vehicles for miles whilst they roll played being White Imperialists. They would also feed them the jooth that was left over from their plates. Then they came over to the UK with their Peugeot’s and Volvos and would look down on Punjabis and call them pendus and janglis because they worked as labourers and came from farming backgrounds. In fact they distanced themselves completely from the Punjabi community and set up their own Gurdwaras/Club/Halls/Societies and only followed babeh that toured in Africa. They are usually portrayed in images that have them sat on leopard skin, maybe because this allows them to claim some ownership on them. To cut a long story short this community has created more division and pushed cast segregation more than any Punjabi Jatts as DallySingh would have you believe. They still romanticise that period of time as the good old glory days.
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1 hour ago, puzzled said:If a Gurdwara was under attack, the first one to call for an uber would be the city Sikhs and the rest of us pendus would be left behind wondering what's going on.
Don’t say that bro you’re gonna hurt feelings of a certain ‘DollySingh’. He still a hasn’t got over when his tribe got told leave by a few Kaleh armed with only sticks and stones from ‘Wakanda’. Such a shame, because all he has now is just memories and his ‘stripy fifty’ to remind him of the wildlife. Chal koi gal nein he can have his own referendum and claim his homeland.
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Dally Hun kithe margaya? That’s a long time to be gone to drink your ‘dudh’. You can come back now and we can start playing again.
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Sikh Farmers vs Muslim Gujjar clash in Majitha, Amritsar
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There is also a thread from last year about a Hindu fighting to get legislation passed to get ‘Jhatka meat’ labelled similar to Halal Meat in eateries in Punjab. I know this is controversial, but at least by doing this, individuals will get a choice of whether they wish to line the pockets of Muslim businesses, that effectively will end up funding their religious cause and agenda.
I can see this being a positive step which would drive our peoples businesses and if applied to Milk this would open up opportunities for Punjabi Sikhs who wish to enter the dairy industry. A simple identifiable mark would enable them to this and rid Punjab of negative foreign invaders.