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This weekend there will be an akhand paath sahib for the chardi kala of Bhai Jagtar Singh Hawara and all other gursikhs in jails across india. It is at Gurdwara singh sabha Peartree st Derby, bhog will be on sunday 19th june...please attend and join in the ardaas for these great gurmukhs who have scarificed for so much fot the panth

i think veer sukhvinder singh and the team at vismaard should be congratulated on this project. i do ardaas that mahraaj keeps them in chardi kala and that they carry out further projects that show our youngsters how amazing our history and sikhi is.

This will be shown at 11am 19th june at Smethwick Gurdwara and at 2pm the same day at Guru Nanak Gurdwara Edward st West Bromwich.. Spread the word......

its a shame that the sikh federation seeks to gain a political advantadge by hijacking such events, most of the youth who turned up last year did so for the event not because of FSO or sikh federation, No -doubt after this years event the Sikh Federation will again seek to show how many thousands from the 700,000 odd sikhs it supposedly represents attended. correct me if i am wrong does AmriK singh Gill chairman of the Sikh federation also sit on the FSO? This event is a panthic event and should not be aligned to any political party, the posters could have been printed without a party name as they were last year. but yet again the old ISYF tactics come to bear fruit...a leopard never changes its spots......

I take it the Sikh federation is organising the Rally and March on june 12th..?

Jasvir singh rode what can say about this "singh sahib..?" well he is the nephew of Sant jee...thats enough we do not need to say anything more. obviously he must be as great as sant jee himself...ok lets just go a bit wild here and just assume that maybe he isnt "gods gift"..lets look at his track record.... Jasbir Singh was a truck driver who had been working in the middle east....during the 80's his main contribution to the movement was to try get raagmala read at akal takhat for which even sant jee ensured he got a beating ( rode would later go on to realise this goal)....during the build up to the attack rode was instrumental in ensuring that there was disunity amongst the singhs.... Later on his "inspirational" visits to the uk he further planted the seeds of anomosity in the UK sangat....but ok we will give him the benefit of the doubt he was young and maybe naive....what has singh sahib jee acheived since then....? He has managed to remain totally incompetent during the most turbulant times of the movement..he contributed nothing to the armed struggle...nothing to the political movement...and nothing to the religous aspect of the panth. He has however managed to build himself a nice kothi in jullundhar...have a fleet of cars....and also have following of Sikhs who would quite readily follow "singh sahib jee" into the gates of hell......i mean afterall he is the nephew of sant jee how can he be wrong...? Im sorry but this man has done more damage to the panth in the last 20 years than most...the latest goings on at taksal are all his doing...he and mohkam singh are 2 of the biggest politictians around .....and they both have the blood of shaheed singhs on their hands....

I think if u take a quick look at the pictures and videos of khalsa camp u can see that there are people from many different backgrounds attending....and u can hear for yourself what they thought of the camp. Khalsa Camp and sikhi camp are meant to compliment each other, the organisers make sure that they do not clash and actively try and help each other..... Sikh student camp i have never been to so cannot comment but as they say " a picture says a thousand words....." u can see for yourself on the sikhstudent website....

singh jee i have challenged him many times...i challenged him at somerset rd gurdwara...in the gurdwara it was me him and 2 other singhs he was very apologetic and calimed there must have been some confusion.....i asked him to come outside and talk to the singhs that he had some problems with...he said of course i will u r my son i will always help... once we got outside he saw that there was a crowd and his brother in law was there with some other gunda's... he sudeenly turned and said to me " ok, then im waiting for the apology..he looked at the singhs and said apologise now or u will be sorry..ur trouble makes everywhere u go u cause trouble!!!." he change completely when he saw the situaiotn was in his favour..." i just just said to him " I hope Mahraaj deals with you accordingly" and walked away..im not wasting any more time with him....i dunno why i have wasted this time now....suffice to say.. mahraaj is watching and he will get his come uppance as will powar,sandhu, and all the other bandits!!!

ok heres the case against shergill...remeber my issue isnt that im a powar supporter or anything..i just cant stand people like shergill,powar, sohi who abuse the power they have... These are all allegations that i make having known shergill for the last 20 years, none of these are hearsay, i am only stating stuff that i have seen or heard myself. no 2nd hand info here... 1: i have a picture of shergill when he was a mona taken in the 70's with a leading NArakdhari parcharak of the Uk at the time. 2: in the mid 90's a picture was shown in punjab times with Shergill shaking hands with a prominent writer for the narakhdhari movement a man who had been gurbahana's senior advisor for many years.. i will find that picture. 3:for a humble bus driver mr shergill has amassed a huge amount of assets and property in India, a visit to his native village, and anyone of his villagers will tell you how he has managed to purchase an extraordinary amount of land in the area, as well as 3 shopping plaza's in jullundhar. i have personally investigated this.. 4: When the side block was built at smethwick in the 80's shergill told the builders to not use 100% concrete for the foundations but use the bricks from the demolished building instead to save on costs, funnily this cost reduction was not seen in the final bill, and the same builders carried out some work on his house at the time. this was raised in a comittee meeting then and as usual shergill shouted louder then everyone else and got his way, 4 singhs left the committe over this issue at that time. 5: shergill is and was responsible causing an immense amount of friction between the panthic groups. he for many months had a poster up int he Gurdwra notice board accusing BKI of being a govt agency. this caused other panthic groups to start targeting BKI. 6:UP until 2 years ago Shergill was a played employee of South birimghma college as an liason officer for Smethwick Gurdwara, baba sang and somerset rd. 7:he used force by sending in A drunken kababdi player (nini) to beat up the trustees and comittiee members of somerset rd gurdwara, so that he could then install his brother in law and cronies in the comittee (2001). 8:He has taken money to give written sponserships to people from india. We have at leat 3 people who are prepared to testify to this and say that he tokk £500 pounds each off them to give thme letters from the gurdwara. 9:He has spoken to West midlands police about at leats 3 people in the area who are panthic sewdars and he has assured the police that these people are extremists and need to be watched. (written eveidence availble) 10: he has reported a bibi to teh authoriites who does an immense amount of sewa in india and pakistan, by taking ramala and gutkas across, this bibi who is in her 60's now gets stopped at airports and questioned. Is this who u support? surely there is a better option in smethwick we have some many panthic people there and the best you can support is Shergill!!! ur havin a laff!!!

powar is just as bad as shergill....shergill did not build the gurdwara the sangat did....and shergilll has played lip service to panthic issues....as president of one of the biggest gurwdara's in europe what has actually done...? the only tim he has taken action is when it is in his interest to do so...i will post a list of examples...but first clarify.. Do you state that you believe that Daljit Shergill is a panthic person with the interest of the Sikh Nation at heart?

Sorry but everyone knows that most of the people at smethwick are "in bed together" even the so called panthic people for how on did the ISYF have a marrige of coneniance with Shergill? where was the panthic stand then? This guys has been incharge for the last 2o years...everyone knows how dodgy and anti panthic he his yet he is still on the scene and who are his closest allies....ex- ISYF!!! Jokers!

is bibi harjeet kaur flying back then? surely not..! she is in toronto at the moment?

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I wont mention names but the organisations linked with this gurdwara (which btw has nothing to do with nanaksar), has a lot to answer for, for many years it has tarnished the panthic movement in the uk, by using strong arm tactics to gain control of gurdwaras an play dirty politics, they have very dubios links with gangs, ex policeman and the underworld in the UK. Many of their members have acted as agents in bringing dhadi, ragi, sant babas over to the uk, taking a cut of the money made. i can name names and instances but wont. They where instrumental in bringing this baba over to the uk, who allegedly speaks for khalistan, but what does that mean? The GOI is not threatened by people who shout khalistan, this infact helps the case against it. They are more concerned with writers and intelectualls in India who are still working in india, only 2weeks ago a young writer had the 2nd attempt on his life. This Singh is working actively in India against the RSS, yet you will never hear him shouting baout khalistan, yet he has probaly done more for the movement than this pakhandi baba ever will. It is typical of members of this org im not sure if singh_shromani aligns himself to this org but his words do have the same tone. They seem to think that whoever can shout the Kahlistan Zindabad the loudest is the most panthic, yet they have done nothing but to put people off the whole notion of sikh nationhood. It is sad that in this case it will be a case of them shouting everyone else down on this issue until it is brushed under the carpet, i am thankfull that we have a an independent radio station like Punjab Radio, that will continue to speak the truth. By the way when has Punjab radio said anything against Sant jee? Gurfateh

ITs typical that this gurdwara is involved yet again, the truth behind this will eventually come out as it has done with all the other scandals that have occured here.... i dont think the BAba is to balem as much as the feddy sewdars behind this scam, everyone locally knows this has been going on for a while, the only thing in question wa sthis baba's involvement. well done lads you've done it again!!! ((