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That is the role model the younger Sikh generation should learn from. We are proud of you, Baba Fauja Singh.

Each one of us who calls himself a Sikh has to become proactive to promote the message of Sikhism to the younger generation. We have to lead by example so that the youngsters can look upon as role models. We have to teach them the basics. We should persuade the gurdwara committees to start specific programmes for the children where they are taught the tenents and history of Sikhs in a simple and easy to understand language. Nothing can be gained unless we all put efforts in this venture. Let us all resolve to do something concrete for the sake of our great relegion.

Thanks for sharing. We are so lucky that we have Gurbani which guides us through our worldly journey.

The simple and a answer is a plain and BIG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

If above point are not being observed by us.....then those hindu wives or Fasting wives(of sikh families) are far better than us.

It is wrong to call "Fasting wives (of sikh families) Sikhs. The whole family having such wives donot deserve to be called Sikhs. These kind of people should be snubbed and looked down upon and told in no uncertain terms that they are an insult to our relegion.

unfortanatly sikhs are losing this fire in them as the years go by, sikhs are getting weaker as time goes which is really sad

more sad is if india were to attack the punjab again sikhs would be in twice the trouble then they were in the 80's and 90's considering india buy's more weapons from the US then any other country and are signing packs with other country's like us and isreal to train their soldiers

Sikhs need to bring back their military traditions were each family sends one child into the army to learn combat

Stop generalising, man. Sikhs have and never can become weaker. We were and we will always be the strongest with the Grace of Waheguru.

I posted the article to inspire ourselves that we are the people who have achieve anything if we follow the path shown to us by the 10 Gurus.

This is not about learning combat and joining the army, it is about excelling in every field of life and leading the world because we are the SINGHS, who are The kings, borne to RULE with the power given to us by Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

The Gurudwaras have to take the lead in this. But unfortunately, today the commitees have lots of Patit members. So how can they be expected to lead when they themselves have gone astray from the path.

The solutions given by LeicesterSihs.com are excellent and practical. We have to teach our youngsters about our rich history and our heritage. We have to give all the information to children so they they feel proud of their relegion.

We have to find solutions to this very serious problem and then act on the solutions to reawake the spirit of Sikhism in the younger generation. The Sikhs have to come together on a single platform and take immediate and collective action for this.

There are number of reasons for this. The biggest problem has been the lack of parchar and the shortage of qualified parcharaks.

The knowledge of one's relegion starts from home. That is the biggest let down as quite a few Sikh parents today have no time or the inclination to teach the basics of Sikhism to their children. They donot even teach their mother language to them. If on one hand, young Sikh children tend to speak English in the Western countries, on the other hand back home, Hindi is spoken to the children. The parents cannot preach about the fundamental tenents of Sikhism , for example, the keeping of kesh, when they themselves are patit. This problem is becoming more and more serious by every passing day and needs drastic action from the Sikh panth.

Very nicely said. We need to support each other. But we also need to acknowledge grand achievements of our brethren. And for goodness sake please stop being negative about our relegion.

" If we do not support our community then we are doomed (as we already are)."

We never were, never are and never ever will be doomed. We are Singhs, born to rule and excel with the Grace of Waheguru.

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When a child reaches the age when they can abide by the Rehat Maryada he/she must take Amrit from the Panj Pyare. Importantly, before taking Amrit, every person should remember that once initiated, he/she must only marry an individual that is Amritdharee. It is the individual’s responsibility that this is met. If the person is of a young age, then the parents and/or close family must accept this responsibility of marriage to another Amritdharee. If a married person takes Amrit by themselves and their spouse is not Amritdharee, then he/she can not have a physical relationship with them unless they too become Amritdharee. Just as a clean dish coming into contact with an unclean one also becomes dirty, the same is true for a married couple (where only one spouse is Amritdharee). A husband and wife should take Amrit together in order for them to maintain their Rehat. A married person does not have permission to take Amrit without their spouse, but if they insist upon taking Amrit they must abide by the above conditions.

So this gem is coming from Damdami Taksal, is it?

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Thanks for sharing the news. It will remind people of the fearlessness and bravery of the Sikhs.

Singh, in all humility, I suggest you speak to Amritdhari elders (Singhs/Kaurs) who know you and your wife in person. Tell them the entire deal, exactly what you've said on here and take their advice. Also mention about your Panj Pyaare asking you to abstain from physical relations as one of the probable causes of the chaos (if you think so). With all respect to the opinions mentioned above, it is imperative that both husband and wife are Amritdhari, and if not, they are to abstain from physical relations. This is the Maryada stated at most Amrit Sanchaars. Killing an unborn child (especially after marriage) is a terribly cruel act. I am no one to say how much bad karam it is going to carry.

Lets not go off-topic. Please start a separate thread to discuss this.

Please give a source to your opinions before posting them. Where did you get the below info

With all respect to the opinions mentioned above, it is imperative that both husband and wife are Amritdhari, and if not, they are to abstain from physical relations. This is the Maryada stated at most Amrit Sanchaars.

How can anyone interfere in your family life?

So please be responsible in writing your views.

Instead of feeling proud of this grand achievement of one of our puran Gursikh brother, we are trying to find needless faults in what he has done. He has shown to the whole world that Sikhs can lead the world in any field. Let us learn from his example and excel in what ever we do.Keep up the good work, Sardar Suneet Singh.

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You will be alright with the Grace of Waheguru. Just get rid of all the negative thoughts from your mind and count your blessings. Make a list of the things you want to be done and ask God to do them for you. Ask Him with sincerity, with faith and see things happen almost immediately. He never ever lets His followers down. Do Simran, Do Sewa and then keep the sangat informed how things are going. We will also pray for you.

its not MY opinion what counts, its Guru Ji's Hukam or example. Thats all that we need. We dont need manmat in this. Only Guru's mat, and if you find that offensive, maybe it tells us more about you sir.

It is not Gurmat which is being reflected in your opinion, it just an exercise of condemning something to satisfy your own negative self.

No, my friend, there are no negative effects of wearing a patka. I wore it to school when I was young. So please stop worrying about it and concentrate on becoming a smart Gursikh who will soon start wearing a nice turban.

I dont know if that question actually makes sense as the Guru's accorded specific raags to the shabads, not the Bhagats themselves. The Bhagats did not accord raags to the shabads. Anyway how Bhagat Ji did kirtan would not be of consequence here as Guru in later time specified the raag superceding any form of kirtan that had taken place earlier.

Film industry has borrowed from classical indian music, and vice versa, but in these times the balance has shifted from mutual borrowing to excessive borrowing on the part of kirtanis from the film industry.

Its why majority of kirtan has no or negligible spiritual effect on sangat.

Please keep such sweeping opinions to yourself. Sikh sangat is getting a very positive spiritual effects from kirtan.

Sikh Sangat nu Sri Guru Ram Dass Ji de Parkash Diwas diyaan lakh lakh vadiayan.

I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I am saying that particular story is a load of tosh.

Also when did you start representing everyone, or by 'we' you mean you and your partners experience to raising your kids?

Wake up from your deep slumber and read what I said in the whole context. I am not talking about my experience. I am talking about the sad state of affairs in our relegion today.I am highlighting the rot which we are finding ourselves in today . We are not giving the basics of our relegion to our children. We are not teaching them our mother language, not teaching them Nitnem. As Sikhs, we are failing in our responsibility to pass on our rich heritage to the younger generation. When you wake up and look at the Patitpuna around you, you will see what I mean.

Marriage is a comittment for life. If she really loves you, she must love your relegion and convert to Sikhism before getting married to you. If she does that, there is no problem for you guys to get married and raise your children as Sikhs.

Have faith in Waheguru and everything will fall in place. First of all I would like to salute you on becoming a Gursikh. You will emerge victorious no matter how many obstacles come your way. Shame on your father for treating you like this. We will all pray for you for Waheguru to grant you strength to come out of this difficult phase of your life.

Can someone please clarify what is the real story behind,

"The other impact that has been on my relationship is that we cannot sleep together, this year we were thinking of having kids but the Panj pyray strictly told me not to have any physical relationship with my wife because she is not amrithdahri

I think it's not true. It sounds like a load of BS. Oh wait they got a get out of jail free card, as

"We have altered the above account to safe guard our source. The name and locations have been changed and how our penji escaped has been changed dramatically for the simple reason not to jepordise any other girls opportunity to escape."

Im not saying guys from muslim background don't try it on with Sikh girls but come on that story is pure fiction, at least they could have tried to make it sound plausable. Witness protection programme, come on - you been watching to many US films. I think the story is on LHM's website, just check out his interview with a (so called) Sikh drug dealer. It's pure jokes. It's so false, the type of thing a teenager thinks drug dealers are like and got someone to answer the questions. They 'drug dealer' even fired a few shots (not shot shots but gun shots).

Keep living in a fools' paradise and call it BS. The fact is that these incidents are becoming very common and we Sikhs have to take blame forit. We are not even teaching the basic tenents of our greatest relegion to our children. How can we expect them to learn about it from nowhere? We are not speaking or teaching Punjabi to our kids. We are so happy when they speak English or Hindi and very soon they cannot speak a word of Punjabi. We have no time to tell them about our rich heritage, about the fearlessness of our forefathers, our achievements in the face of extreme diversity. We have no time to teach them about our daily Sikh prayers, about our principles and about the greatness of our Living Guru, Guru Granth Sahib. The children will see the enviroment at home and will follow what they see. Wake up, brethren to the realities before it is too late.

Isn't that a bit harsh? Don't we all make mistakes in life that we are not proud of?

It sure is harsh. But good sense will prevail on these guys someday.