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Cause most martial arts incorporate grappling striking and weapions and joint manipulations but in demonstrations these martial arts look great but in competition they usually get defeated by muay thai fighters and grapplers from brazil With shastar vidya that everyone talks about most those moves they show off in demonstrations are not effective in real situations same goes with other martial arts In a street fight you'll get knocked out trying to use a lot of those techniques And martial arts have evolved fighting has evolved casuse long as man goes to war man wants to find the deadliest way to kill his opponent The martial arts schools that scam people out of their money are the once who claim they have this deadly martial art and its to deadlyyet they won't show the world how effective it is against other martial arts and only put on deomonstrations like shastar vidya Niddar singh's school and students have bin invited to show how effective it is but they reject and excuse is the same its to dangerous Martial art schools that are the real deal don't do deomonstration vidoes they show how effective they are in tourrnments and if you check out some of the tournments in japan and brazil and south africa were its real street fighting you can stomp on the guys head and most these deadly martial artist are defeated over and over And their are singhs in the toronto area who attended niddar singh's classes and their opinions are they same stick to things like muay thai Shastar vidya only looks cool in demonstrations other then that you won't have success against someone who knows how to fight Theirs videos of shastar vidya on youtube look at the techniques used for hand to hand it has people who have trained in other martial arts laughing in a lot of the martial arts forums

Forget the caste its the indian and punjabi culture of favoring boys over girls just punjabis take it to another level cause they end up spoiling the punjabi boy were as other indians like guju's harshly push their boys to become docters and won't give them anything until they have a straight a report card Not all punjabi family's do this cause their our family's were the boy and girl are treated equal But even guju girls look what they do in clubs same thing their treated like second class citizens Indian punjabi culture is poison to sikhi

West london singh could you explain why sikh girls get converted if uk sikh girls are confident and sleeping around Gamersingh it is the village punjabi mentality Not all sikhs follow the punjabi mentallity So I'm not labelling all sikhs cause you have educated sikhs to in vancouver and un educated sikhs in toronto the punjabi immigrants in toronto and vancouver are very alike look at all the punjabi black gangster wannabe's in rexdale and brampton the only thing that keeps them from selling drugs like punjabis in vancouver is cause their scared of the blacks and tamils were as vancouver doesn't have blacks or tamils Their are sikhs in bc who are 4 generations you have sikhs in uk who have bin their for 70 years you have sikhs in uk that come from africa so not all sikhs follow the village mindset but the village mindset is why punjabis are hooked on drugs in punjab why they get into gangs and drugs in vancouver why you have wannabe's in toronto and why you have punjabi girls in vancouver being put into prostitution by punjabi boys and punjabi girls in toronto dating black drug dealers and afghans and why you have sikh girls in uk converting to islam cause their self esteem is being destroyed with boys being favored over girls

West london singh I think you are blind cause when I go to england and when I use to go clubbing I would see sikh girls running around drunk with mini skirts dancing grinding with guys I also saw punjabi guys acting like black gangsters

Martial arts like shastar viday and kung fu were effective before but other martial arts have evolved and come up that are far more advanced I've done kung fu you can't compare kung fu to muay thai cause a muay thai fighter will break your skull with one kick Martial arts like muay thai have surpassed kung fu and shastar vidya Same with wrestling and wrestling is a old martial art

She isn't mixing sikh culture with jatt culture she clearly stats that sikhi is a religion that fights for human rights but the culture sikhs are raised in attack human rights were boys are raised as kings and girls as second class citizens Cause of the culture you get to see why their are so many problems in the sikh community This culture is why their is drug problem in punjab This culture is why theirs a gang drug problem in vancouver This culture is why you have punjabi gangster wannabe's in toronto america and ebgland the reason these gangster wanna be's in toronto america and england stay away from selling drugs like punjabis in vancouver is cause the black gangs tamil gangs control the drugs in toronto and the blacks and hispanics control the drugs in the united states and in england blacks pakis control the drugs were in vancouver their were no black people hispanic people pakis to scare away punjabis from the drug trade but if vancouver had big black population the punjabis would of bin scared out Why do you think sikh girls date muslims cause their self esteem which is triggered by punjabi culture

Renu Bakshi’s infamous article that was published in MacLean’s Magazine on December 23rd, 2002. I believe this article was the catalyst to get the South Asian Community talking about the Gang Violence Issue. A lot of people took this article negatively, however, if it wasn’t for this article, who knows how long the ignorance and denial would have kept their darkness draped over a growing issue. —– THE ROOTS OF GANG WARFARE B.C.’s Sikhs must look hard at themselves MacLean’s Magazine Published: December 23, 2002 by Renu Bakshi HE LEFT THE nightclub in his usual fashion — the envy of the room, a beautiful woman on his arm. As he hailed a cab for the short ride to his posh condo in downtown Vancouver, a man with his history had to know he was pegged. “It all happened so fast,” the cabbie would say as his fare lay bleeding, riddled with bullets on the road. Robbie Kandola. To youngsters and hangers-on, he was a name they knew and feared. To police investigators, he was a toe tagged No. 54. In the past 10 years in Greater Vancouver, Kandola had been the 54th young man killed in an Indo-Canadian gang war over drugs, money and women. The showdown of bravado has claimed victims execution-style on city streets. Suspects have forced victims to swallow gasoline before lighting a match. Some have been shot at close range at nightclubs. Others have just vanished without a trace. While the mode of attack varies, victim profiles are interchangeable. Their obituaries describe men in their early 20s. Eulogies honour “nice” boys from good families. Most discernable of all, the victims are predominantly Sikhs whose background, by birth or by family, is in India’s Punjab region. No other Indian sub-community in the nation has lost so many young men to murder. Even with large Hindu and Muslim populations in Canada, this bloody gang war is unique to B.C.’s primarily Sikh community. With 50-plus murder files — most unsolved — and the threat of more looming, police investigators are scratching their heads. For years they’ve searched for answers, ever hesitant to ask a controversial question finally posed publicly by B.C. Supreme Court Justice Wally Oppal: “Why has the Indo-Canadian community raised a disproportionate number of killers?” Some people may cringe at the “stereotype,” or gasp that such a discussion dare take place in an age when Canada has sworn in its first Indo-Canadian premier. But Justice Oppal is himself a Sikh. The truth is, the majority of the Punjabi community has contemplated the question, but chosen to quash it. Fear of legitimizing media coverage maybe? Or harming an already fractured community image? Not likely. This is a community that protects itself through denial. There’s really no dodging this bullet. A Punjabi boy’s aggression and contempt of the law can be traced to misguided religious beliefs and his family’s traditional practices. Most of the 50-plus victims come from this same complex culture. From the moment a Punjabi boy opens his eyes, his parents hand him the keys to the Porsche of life. From now on, his mother will ride in the back seat, literally and figuratively, putting her son ahead of the world. Her boy will have the privilege of eating a warm meal, without the chore of clearing the dishes alongside his sister. In a fit of childhood rage, he will kick and punch his mother, as his father and grandmother look on, taking great pride in their boy’s supposed courage. It is the same cycle in most Punjabi households. All Indos, as we tend to call ourselves, have witnessed parents, grandparents and relatives mourn the birth of a girl, even today, while celebrating news that an heir to the throne is born. As Indos, we know too many sisters who were raised under a microscope of discipline and fear, burdened with the terror of defying their parents or shaming the family. All the while, their male counterparts are heralded as the Kings of the Castle, allowed free rein. “That’s my boy,” Dad will say, as the little guy steals a sip of his Johnny Walker Red Label. Vancouver police Insp. Kash Heed knows the Punjabi culture well. He grew up in a Sikh family. Heed, now Vancouver’s top drug cop, says he’s embarrassed by the stigma facing his community. ” ‘That’s my boy, that’s my boy’ has gone out of control,” Heed says. “You have fathers and mothers praising their sons when these boys are involved in illegal activity — drug trafficking and murders. But these parents are still going ‘that’s my boy’ based on that old family principle.” Heed agrees Punjabi boys grow up in a testosterone-fuelled environment run by an iron-fisted patriarch. In too many cases, violence is the tool with which the head of household settles disputes with his wife, as well as other members of the family. RCMP in the Vancouver suburb of Surrey, where many Sikhs live, say a disproportionate number of the domestic disputes their officers attend involve Sikh couples, and the disputes are almost always sparked by alcohol. Eventually, a young boy will become a young man and step into a community that thrives on bravado — a world where everything is a grudge match, a fight to the finish. From Sunday sermons at Sikh temples to Friday nights at bars, police files show that disagreements among Punjabi men are regularly settled with the use of force. The difference is, youngsters have replaced the holy Sikh sword with machine guns. Five centuries ago, Guru Nanak founded Sikhism, a religion designed to promote equality among people. Although it evolved into a warrior religion, it was intended to uphold bravery in the face of evil. But the very essence of Sikhism, its spiritual struggle for human rights, has been perverted by misguided men bent on gaining power and exacting revenge. The Sikh teaching, “When all else fails, only then raise your sword,” no longer applies to defending the defenceless. It is an excuse to use violence to settle the score. This is especially true in Greater Vancouver, where interpretations of Sikh principles have led to terrible bloodshed. Three orthodox Sikhs are currently awaiting trial in the 1985 Air India bombings that killed 331 people. Authorities believe the bombing was a Sikh separatist message for India’s dominant Hindu government. Heed says there are numerous high-profile examples in Vancouver of Sikhs using delusional personal readings of religion to settle disputes. People, he says, need to look no further than temple “leaders” in B.C. whose battles for political power have been captured repeatedly on video for the six o’clock news. “Once, an item on TV showed a religious Sikh leader taking a big sword and slashing someone in the stomach,” Heed says. “That happened at a temple. The image played over and over on TV.” Violence is even part of Punjabi pop culture. Songs that play on local radio stations encourage Sikhs to be proud of their identity at all costs. Some lyrics go as far as encouraging youngsters to pick up pistols and rifles to fight for “justice.” Bravado, Heed says, is part of the male species in general, but among Punjabis there are dangerous contributing factors. “Couple bravado with Sikh religion, couple it with the Punjabi culture and attitudes, and a lack of positive role models — look what you have.” What you have are young men who lack discipline and direction, young men who find adventure in earning fast money in the drug trade. Young men primed for violence. The catalyst for many teenage Sikhs may have come in 1994. Two young men gained notoriety far beyond the Sikh community when they used the evening news to exchange blatant threats. Weeks later, one of them was gunned down on a busy street in broad daylight. Television images showed paramedics working feverishly to save him from the gunshot wounds. The man charged but acquitted in his murder, Bindy Johal, emerged a hero among young men. “All of a sudden this behaviour was glorified,” Heed recalls. “If kids wanted to make a name for themselves and settle schoolyard fights, they saw this as the way to do it.” Those schoolyard fights have evolved into hunting season on Vancouver’s streets. These days, gangsters are dying at the rate of one per month; Johal himself was later gunned down. It’s a harsh reality, yet the Sikh community refuses to hear the wake-up call. Justice Oppal calls it willful blindness. “You tell me why a parent with an unemployed 23-year-old son driving a BMW doesn’t think there’s something wrong with that picture,” he says. “Our sons are getting slaughtered but parents and the community are in a state of denial.” Even after their sons are murdered in drug-related shootings, parents have often spoken on record to reinforce their sons’ “innocence.” Police officers have also described incidents where parents have slammed doors in their faces when they try to deliver news of the murder. Characteristics of Vancouver’s gang problem are now emerging in Britain and the U.S. Authorities in northern California say only 25 per cent of their Indo-American community is Sikh, yet violent Indo gangs are made up almost entirely of Sikh youngsters. California parents are also caught in the cycle of denial. They say their sons are not part of gangs, they’re just “boys being boys.” Over the years, Oppal has seen a drastic increase in the number of young Indo men caught up in B.C.’s justice system. “The community can blame the police, they can blame the courts, they can blame society at large. But it’s time we started looking inward.” Oppal says the community and police need to work together to stop the killing spree, but he admits that ignorance in Vancouver’s police department has contributed to the problem. “Police have never taken the time to get to know the Indo-Canadian community. This is what happened in the United States in inner cities where police are seen as the invading army. Police have no respect there.” Heed agrees. He questions why police officers show up at the annual Indian Diwali festival wearing uniforms and stern faces. “When police go to other communities’ events, they go in a community-policing role to meet and greet people,” he says. “Why is it that at Indian events, they show up in a strictly enforcement role?” That may be changing. In Vancouver, an important first step between police and the community took place on June 15. Police officers faced off with members of the Indo community at a forum designed to build trust and help solve the city’s gang problem. During the session, the split between police and the community was clear. Homicide officers expressed concern about the “conspiracy of silence” Sikhs use to protect their sons at the expense of solving murder investigations. Members of the community responded with accusations of racism. Why isolate “Indo” violence and host a forum, they asked. The statistics, however, won the day. Nearly 60 victims. Hundreds more gang members involved in the drug trade — many of them “targeted” for murder, police say. That drove a strong debate against the aggression that has become an integral part of Sikh culture, religion and family values. Indo teachers, social workers, police officers and politicians called for community reforms to stop further bloodshed. At this stage, Oppal admits, some youngsters cannot be saved. “We just have to write them off,” he says. Heed says police may have trouble keeping up with the deadly war. “The killings show no sign of slowing down,” he says. “Eventually murder suspects become victims.” Since Robbie Kandola’s death in June, four more Indo men have made it onto the list of victims, one a university student who was only 18. Another was clinging to life last week after five men were shot in a Surrey parking lot. The sad reality is, none of these young men ever had a fair shot at life. That chalk outline on the sidewalk is the final page of the religious and cultural blueprint that was used to raise them. Renu Bakshi, who comes from a Punjabi background, is a reporter with CTV in Vancouver.

Only five I learn sikhi from real sikhs were you probably learned sikhi from your family who are also amritdhari bramin and amritdhari bramin are people who bin bullied so they isolate themselves Everyone during guru ji's time performed seva What I said about bramins who won't eat from other casts are facts they say their karma is bad and that's why they won't touch them or what they touch Hey only five if you want to support the behavior go for it an act like bramin

High five I learn sikhi from real sikhs were you probably learned sikhi from your family who are also amritdhari bramin and amritdhari bramin are people who bin bullied so they isolate themselves Everyone during guru ji's time performed seva What I said about bramins who won't eat from other casts are facts they say their karma is bad and that's why they won't touch them or what they touch Hey high five if you want to support the behavior go for it an act like bramin

A lot of mona sikhs don't really understand why hair is so important hence why they cut their hair rather then judge them explain to them why hair important One reason sikhs were told to keep their hair was so everyone knew you were a sikh cause back then most sikhs were to scared to say they were sikhs cause you would get your head chopped off so sikhs were told if they would give their head for god then keep their hair so everyone knows your a sikh You needed to have balls to keep your hair

High five thank you for explaining the logic bramin amritdharis use to justify their behaviour The purpose of free langer and seva and people sitting next to eachother and serving eachother was to break old traditions in india at the time and show everyone was equal it was to make high caste accept and eat food from lower caste it was to make the rich and poor sit next to eachother and eat it was to make everyone of different religion serve eachother the purpose is to bring people together as equals Brahmin won't eat anything touched by someone of a different caste cause they believe they have bad karma and by touching them or touching anything they have touched hurts their karma Sameway brahmin amritdharis won't eat food touched by non amritdharis when you talk about the food being blessed Some brahmins believe that people can change caste if they are holy enough And eating food that is blessed and staying away from food you think isn't blessed is actually hindu tradition that bramin amritdharis adopt Bramhin amritdhari is someone who behave like a bramhin They think their very holy when justifying just like brahmin

Are you talking about amritdharis who act like brahmins The once who won't accept food during seva from a non amritdhari like a bramin won't accept anything touched by someone of a different caste Those guys act like that cause they bin bullied and isolate themsevles

What can be done to bring sikhs together cause right now they are so divided

Most these comedians take shot at religions including jay leno whose insulted jesus christ

Could someone post the diaper joke video or find it so we can see the context of the joke Could someone post the diaper joke video or find it so we can see the context of the joke

What is your guys opinion

What about muay thai which is based on lethal striking

Auzer the pakistanis lost the first war cause they didn't get kashmire and lost third war cause they lost bangledesh *Mod Edited*

Sikhs should have politicans talk about human rights violations in india and what they will do to fight it in canada Put up pictures of the victims punjab police terrorism

What is best form of martial art for street fighting without weapions And what is the best martial art fighting with weapions

Conversion of Sikh Girls—-Who falls prey? The Sikh community is waking up from a long sleep of neglect of the female child to find that their daughters are being converted out of the faith they were born in. Websites, blogs, Youtube videos are being made daily to wake up our daughters so we can save them. But sometimes we forget that just as much effort needs to be made to wake up our parents and our leaders so our daughters can be raised never to become victims of extremists that try to convert them. How can we blame the girl alone, when her upbringing left her vulnerable? Sikh girls that are raised to be the perfect obedient daughters or to be the daughter with great independence or the ones that never had to see any problems. Every parents dream is that their daughter is this perfect daughter that is obedient and always listens to her parents. But at what cost? The obedience is taught by force, not by reasoning or friendly explanation. Listening to some of the mothers of the daughters that converted you hear them talk about their daughter never going anywhere without family, being a straight A student and helping in the house; in short being the perfect child. These perfect daughters try to do everything to make their parents happy but somewhere deep down they always feel they don’t get the love in return they deserve. They feel this way either because their brothers are treated better even though they don’t do half the work the girls are required to do or they feel their small mistakes are punished too harshly. In short when someone else offers the girl the love she thinks she deserves, she gets blinded by it and is unable to see past it. And that false sense of love and security makes her lose the real love and security offered by family. But once the mistake is realized it is her family is not always willing to take her back and let things go back to normal. The once perfect obedient daughter is now an outcast, with nowhere to go. The daughter with too many liberties is just as much of easy target as the obedient daughter for conversion into another faith, mostly Islam. The daughter with the strict parents leaves her faith and family for some love, the daughter with easy going parents leaves her faith for some discipline. These girls are brainwashed into believing that all their lives they have sinned and the only way they can be saved is through Islam. Because that is the only religion that forces girls to complete cover up and be protected from the bad eyes of men. What they aren’t taught is how the women are treated in Islam. But the point is the party girl is made to believe through Islam, she can finally settle down and live a respectable life. Her parents don’t object because they have always given their daughter the freedom to make her choices. For love, for sense of discipline she leaves her family and her religion. Which she could have got in her family but no one tried to teach her about her religion and the meaning of love was completely distorted. Punjabi parents typically want to solve all the problems for their daughters before they can even know they have a problem. But what they don’t realize is that they are setting their daughters up for a great downfall later in life. Not only will she be unable to face problems in life when her parents can’t be there for her but she is open to being tricked into converting. When her family is not around anyone can come up to her and try to teach her that if she accepts a certain religion she won’t have problems anymore. And if by some odd chance of fate, her problem does go away after trying something of a new fate, she is sold for life. Not only she will convert but she will try to get people around her to convert, to solve their problems also. These kindof converts are the worst because they take down a lot more people with them and then they have nowhere to turn when they realize that religion is not a magic solution to make your problems disappear. Religion can teach us how to cope with problems, not magically make them all disappear, that is up to God. Most girls that fall into conversion traps grow up without a strong presence of religion in their lives and are raised on culture values. To really help our daughters, sisters we need to bring Sikhism back into their lives and the lives of their parents. The only way for us to really do that is not by hard core scare tactics talking about all the negatives of Islam nor is it to be done by forcing them to listen to hours of Gurbani. It can only be done by the Gurudwara Committees and parents stepping up the game by hosting fun events like trips to amusement parks, camping, hiking and other similar events that are not against principles of Sikhism and mixing in the fun with education. Once someone learns about the basics of Sikhism, they become more open to learning more on their own. And that is another place where we fall behind; the answer we give for everything is listen to Gurbani. Our Gurudwara Sahibs have to take the first step and hold regular discussions on Sikhism so people can ask their questions and learn more. Educate properly in a fun manner on Sikhism, conversion rates will drop. Simple as that

Good article punjab has fallen behind in education It would be better for punjab to focus on creating docters engineers scientist it profesionals

Also why didn't god help create khalistan

What would be better for street fighting

So how can we make sikhi exciting and educate 90 percent sikhs out their