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Dear puzzled veer
Whats ur view on nakodar vala peer baba where gurdas maan is a chela?
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2 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:
Sufism is the same Islamic fraud as the rest of its fellow sects. It's just dressed up in a vaguely mystical finery that cons people into believing it's harmless.
I think u r right veer.
Whats ur view on nakodar vala peer baba where gurdas maan is a chela?
Is it different from Sufism?
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1 minute ago, intrigued said:
Not too sure, some ppl think they came from the nirmalas but taksal says they didnt and i think they didn't as well. My guess is that they have focused on more well known granths instead...
If Dasmesh Pita got a Sufi Persian Granth into Gurmukhi from Pir Budhu Shah(sayyid badr ud din),it is an important granth to study.
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25 minutes ago, intrigued said:
Nirmalas tend to focus more and put an emphasis on Vedic literature
What about taksal?
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44 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:
According to one tradition, the version in Gurmukhi characters was prepared towards the close of the seventeenth century at Anandpur by Sayyid Badr ud Din of Sadhaura at the instance of Guru Gobind Singh (1666-1708).
If this is true, than paras bhag is an important granth to study.
Why only sewapanthis teach it and not taksal or nirmalas?
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I thought Sufis believed in universal brotherhood and love.
But why Rumi who is a highly respected sufi, called all Hindus as dark unclean dogs ?
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Any one read it or has some info about it?
Sewapanthis love this granth....
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This young nihang knows amazing shastar vidya.
He says that when he does shastar abhiyaas, devi devte and shaheed Singhs teach him many knew techniques but the shastar vidiya knowledge of shaheed Singhs is much superior compared to devi devte.
He also says that shastar vidiya is an infinite knowledge and one always keeps on learning new techniques.
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We all know that many Gursikhs hv had darshan of all 10 Guru Sahibaan from Guru Granth Sahib ji.
There is a young gupt nihang Singh who does lots and lots of paath of Dasam Granth Ji and Sarbloh Granth Ji.
He says that he has had darshan of Dasmesh Pita and great Gursikhs like Baba Deep Singh from the saroop of Dasam Granth Ji and Sarbloh Granth Ji.
Dhan Dasam Guru Darbaar!
Dhan Sarbloh Guru Darbaar!
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1 hour ago, puzzled said:
Moral of the story, women and kaam can destroy you dharam
Moral of the story is read Charitropakhyan and thank Guru Sahib for giving us this baani.
Nihangs used to keep charitropakhyan In their quiver of arrows.
Manuscript of Sri Dasam Granth Sahib is also preserved in the library of Punjab University, Chandigarh. Another manuscript of charitropakhayan of 1723 is also preserved in Punjab University library. It is called “Turkish ki pothi”. Nihung Singhs used to keep it in their tarkash (Arrow carrier) during war.It is a pity that they have maintained a high character till today that when they knock on someone’s door, people say, “Aa gaye Nihung, booha khol de nishung (Open the door without hesitation as they are Nihungs). They read this Bani and people consider them as saviors of respect and dignity of ladies. But these atheists like scholars of Kala Afghana school of thought smell profanity in these stories which in essence are moral imparting.
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When I visited this bauli, I met a good local hindu woman who told me that when this Bauli was clean, she used to drink it's water and it was very sweet and mithaa water.
She said that villagers r losers who r not allowing cleaning up of this Bauli and setting up of a Gurdwara.
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16 minutes ago, puzzled said:
The state of these historical places associated with the gurus and sikh raaj is terrible!
Why can't they set up a team of experts/professionals for the upkeep of these places ? is that too much to do?
Dear veer
In this case it's not the fault of baabe but the local Hindus who r not allowing the setting up of Gurdwara and cleaning up of this Bauli.
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Memoir of the War in India
William Thorn
1806'Besides the matchlock, spear, the scimitar, which are all excellent in their kinds, some of the Seiks are armed with a very singular weapon, which they use with great and destructive effect against cavalry. It consists of a hollow circle, made of finely tempered steel, with an exceedingly sharp edge, about a foot in diameter, and and inch in breadth on the inner side. This instrument the horseman poises on his fore-finger, and after giving it two or three swift motions, to accelerate its velocity, sends it from him to the distance of some hundreds of yards, the ring cutting and maiming, most dreadfully, every living object that may chance to be in its way.'
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A European writes that Singhs were extremely accurate, deadly and brutal with their Chakkarr throw.
Singhs used to decorate their dumalla with lots of chakkarrs.
Dhan Chakkarr!
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28 minutes ago, puzzled said:
know he's a mona and not a practicing Sikh but these days every other person is committing adultery, and it is destructiv
Yes, that's true. Many nri males marry Indian females thinking they would be virgin....
Not anymore...
Even in punjab, kaam has ruined the morals of the society.
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12 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:
Bro, who do victorious non-Sikh fighters get protection from (in a supernatural sense) when they fight Sikhs protected by Shaheed Singhs? And in those instances when the non-Sikh emerges victorious, why does that protection fail the Singh? Try to answer without resorting to the "Karams" argument, because I've heard it enough to last me a lifetime (or two).
r u doubting the existence of Shaheed Singhs and their duty to protect Gursikhs?
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http://jhatkamaryada.com/2017/04/24/akali-nihang-bola/
ਸ਼ਿਵ ਜੀ ਕਹੈ ਪਾਰਵਤੀ ਕੋ ਬੀਜਿਆ ਨਾ ਦੇਹ ਗ੍ਵਾਰਣ ਕੌ,
ਸਾਧ ਸ਼ਕੇ ਜਪ ਚਿੱਤ ਲਾਇ ਹਰੀ ਕਾ ਨਾਮ ਉਚਾਰਨ ਕੋ
ਸੂਰਮਾ ਸ਼ਕੇ ਰਣ ਜੁੱਧ ਕਰੈ ਹਾਥੀ ਕਾ ਸੀਸ ਉਤਾਰਣ ਕੋ, ਮੂਰ ਸ਼ਕੇ ਬੁੱਖ ਬਾਦ ਕਰੇ ਬਿਰਥਾ ਜਨਮ ਗ੍ਵਾਰਣ ਕੋSo said Shiv Ji to Parvati, do not allow this seed (cannabis) to be lost; For if a Sadhu drinks it (sukha) he shall focus his concentration on repeating the name of HARI; If a warrior drinks it, he will go into war and fight, with the ability to decapitate an Elephant; But if a fool is to drink it, he will simply talk nonsense and waste this precious opportunty of life.
A puratan Nihang bola
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I hv also heard that when Singhs hv Shaheedi degh and fight in battle, they get protection from Shaheed Singhs.
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On Hola, Singhs get tyar bar tyar with shastars and show their shatarvidya skills to the Guru.
Singhs used to hv Shaheedi degh on Hola.
So yes Shaheedi degh helps in shastarvidya.
ਰਿਤੁ ਬਸੰਤ ਇਤਨੇ ਮੈ ਆਈ । ਹੋਰੀ ਕੀ ਤਯਾਰੀ ਕਰਵਾਈ । ਕਹਯੋ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਨਿਧਿ ਬਚਨ ਅਮੋਲਾ । ਔਰਨ ਕੀ ਹੋਲੀ ਮਮ ਹੋਲਾ ।
In these days the season of Basant arrived, and the preparations for Holi commenced, the Treasure Trove of Grace, Guru Gobind Singh, said in a priceless command, "Others have Holi but ours will be Hola"
ਸਜ ਸਜ ਸਭ ਸਾਮਾਨ ਸੂਰ ਬਰ। ਬਾਂਧੇ ਗੋਲ ਖਰੇ ਤੇ ਹਿਤਬਰ । ਸਸਤਰ ਅਸਤਰ ਸਜਤੇ ਸਭ ਭਾਂਤੀ । ਰੂਪ ਨਿਧਾਨ ਸੀਲ ਗੁਣ ਖਯਾਤੀ ।
All the powerful warriors adorned all sorts of supplies and weapons, forming battalions of riflemen and standing at the ready, adorned with blades and projectiles of all varieties, such a form is pleasing, sweet and full of virtue.
ਸੁਖ ਨਿਧਾਨ ਛਕਿ ਸੁਖ ਨਿਧਾਨ ਕੋ । ਹੇਰਤ ਸੁਖ ਨਿਧਿ ਸੁਖ ਨਿਧਾਨ ਕੋ । ਨੈਨ ਐਨਰਤ ਨਾਰੇ ਸਭ ਕੇ । ਪਗੇ ਪ੍ਰੇਮ ਪਗ ਧੂਰਿ ਅਲਭ ਕੇ ।
The Treasure Trove of Peace [Guru Gobind Singh], consumed the Treasure Trove of Peace [cannabis]! Viewing the treasure of happiness, the Guru, and partaking in cannabis, everyone's eyes were drenched in the colour of love - the dirt from of such lovely feet is so rare!
Gurpad Prem Prakash [1880], author: Sumer Singh
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18 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:Anyway, I've always wondered about the use of bhang in war. Cannabis is usually associated with feelings of peace and relaxation - hardly what you'd want if on the frontline of violent battle.
Dear veer ji
Nihangs tell me that when u hv Shaheedi degh, ur mind gets focused on one task only and stops wandering.
So if u hv cannabis and start doing simran, ur mind will focus on simran only and if u hv Shaheedi degh and start using shastars, ur mind will focus only on how to best use ur shastars.
even to this day, when nihangs go for shikaar,they hv Shaheedi degh before going.
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Singhs used to carry barchi and naganni which r types of spears.
Bhai Bachitar Singh Ji s famous naganni we all know about.
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12 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:
Probably have to go back before Guru Nanak Dev Ji.
but Singhs did throw spears and atlatl greatly enhances the speed and distance of spear throw.
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do we hv any puratan atlatl anywhere in punjab?
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