savinderpalsingh

Theres a lot of fake baba, so what if we showed riddhi sidhi. I think you know what alot of holy people talk about sukhmmani sahiab. Its hard to see anyone a saint if they have millions of dollars around, and theres poor people all over india.

you forgot the story of 2 singhs who attacked the mughal king with ridhi sidhi

to free patshahi 6vi?

and how much they were scolded and how angry guru sahib were at them?

did you forget the outcome of using ridhi by sahibjaada atal rai sahib ji

and we all know how that went

to answer that, i would say "who created gurmukhi"

your answer lays in that questions answer

not only eating meat

but eating anything for the taste of your tongue is bad !!

but why kill an animal if you have other food to eat?
eating meat is only allowed if you have nothing else to eat

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1594494740783814

Brother , I have a valid point , Wherever I see some thing diametrically opposite the spirit of gurmat , specially at this site , intervention and the sarcasm are not invalid

how is pooranmashi out of gurmat ?

poranmashi = full moon night its a natural phenomena, open your doors singh

waheguru this is just unbearable

someone please inform these morons or do something about it, we cant reach them from india

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=891545304231374

i think to prevent these a branch should be setup in every gurudwara with a total of 3-4 singhs who keep an eye on all of these forums , and answer the confused singhs

Savinderpalsingh , I have been following your all posts , in this thread you have been stressing to say that your point is only correct one , if this is the purpose , what is the use of discussion then ? it seems that you have not studied the Sikh Thought properly . The Gotra consideration in Matrimonial relations has tyo do with casteism only , which has no place in Our Faith .please have a reading of Different rehatnameys ( in Punjabi Originals not the Translations by Brits ) and you will know about hollowness of Your Arguements

i think i have stated my points well enough, cast-ism is not to promote high or low of an individual but to state the area of their origins and bloodline roots. which does turn into genetic defects later down the line,

wahegurujikakhalsawahegurujikifateh

Nanakshahi calendar exposed,

the truth behind the fiasco and all those lies that have been fed to the Khalsa panth. We have all been given false information. Please watch and share

Colonel Surjit Singh Nishan - Sikh scientist

Part 1 - 20 mins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pjYzkQMunU&feature=youtu.be

Part 2 - 20 mins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=0djYJ8sFYuQ

Part 3 - 20 mins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mac0sWeV1v8&feature=youtu.be

Baba baljinder singh ji ratwada sahib wale exposing nankshahi calender
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1594494740783814

have you seen this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMNaPmmuHCs


and this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuW7e1yCVvc

there was a survey and over 90% athiests are closet worshipers because they dont like rules

also, iw ould personaly smack you hard if you said that in front of me

Let me quote for your reference - " Guru ka sikh saak dikh naal kare, den lain da lalach na karey, haan dekhey, hadd sucha waikhey, matha milda waikh laye.Further , "Guru ka sikh gareeb sikh naal nata karey , guru gandh paonda hai" this is reference from rehatnama bhai chaupa singh which brother savinderpal singh is quoting.

My request to all please read books in original and not any translation .

o balle uncle ji, kya kehne aa nahi samajhna ke u you be wrong but proove puratan singhs wrong

o bhaleyo lokon, its not gandh

its ganth

means guru jod da hai !!!!!

shabas e tuhade

dhare kesh pahul bin bhekhi moorakh sikh mere darshan nahe te, paapi tyaage chit !!

Where is this from.?!?

bhai nand lal ji rehatnama

Sangat Ji,

I became an amritdari/keshdari 10 years ago, but now want to cut my kesh, and become a sahajdari sikh.

I believe that all the Saheeds of Sikhi, were martyred for freedom, the freedom to be a Sikh, a Hindu or whatever. I don’t think anyone should be blackmailed into being forced to keep kesh, if one chooses to cut kesh – all the guilt tripping is wrong.

The Guru’s & Sikhs fought, died, lived for freedom. If one is motivated to become an amritdari then that person should have the freedom to pursue it. If 10 years later, as I am, wants to leave amrit, then why is it made so fundamentally difficult?

You can be a sahajdari and still jaap naam, do kirat, and donate 10% (which few amritdari’s do, I only did it one year).

And I don’t have to give my reasons for wanting to cut kesh to anyone, thank Waheguru I live in liberal democracy, not a theocratic-police state.

While I don’t wish to give my reasons, I want to solicit arguments for me keeping my kesh. Because in the big scheme of things, is it so wrong, to cut kesh, but still be a god fearing Sikh? When I die, if I don’t go to hell, or 84 lakh cycle, and by some miracle see the Guru’s & Saheeds, I will bow and say “I was weak and unworthy, I did what I could in my life, but I just can’t keep kesh out of fear, guilt, recrimination of fellow Sikhs. I choose to become an amritdari, and 10 years later I cut my kesh, I am a sinner, but whatever I am, I am still a Sikh, be it the most unworthy Sikh.”

Regards,

Anon,

Ps,

I am reasonably educated, intelligent person, and don’t believe cutting my hair will make me outcast, since I may take amrit again in the future. But if people say I am outcast, have commited a cardinal/treacherous sin – I almost feel like saying so be it! Yes I am a wretched manmukh, though all western political philosophy, science is derived by putting the bible and the Abrahamic Gods word aside, and using manmukhi to think of the answers to the fundamental questions of the human condition.

if you cut kesh you will loose gurus mohar hence you wont be a sikh anymore

sehajdhari means who has kept kesh and will continue to grow it slowly

not the modern version

people who cut kesh dont follow in any catagory of sikhs

you want to be an outcast, why not write a bedawa and give it to guru sahib !!

you will officialy be out

dhare kesh pahul bin bhekhi moorakh sikh mere darshan nahe te, paapi tyaage chit !!

Savinderpal singh ji , can you offer comments on what I quoted?

it will take time for me to find in the gurmukhi version

but the english version as translated by WH Mc leod

it states

Do not marry in same gott - bhai cuapa singh ji , rehatnama

For benefit of all let me quote sikh rehst maryada published by SGPC which was approved by panth after much delibrations and taking view of all sampradayes on 3 feb 1945. It says on page page 25 under the heading "Sikh sikhnu da vyaah bina jaat , paat , got de vichar de hona chahiye" .Would any one singh give interpretation what does this mean? So far in our family (we are five brothers ) neither our parents or we nor our next generation gives any preference to jaat or gots in making aliances fir matrimony.

the gott restriction is only for genetics issue and as they are from same family tree, almost related .

so yes its a no no

however for your satisfaction i will soon post the quote from rehatnama,

it has to do with maryada , why are you so dense !! ofcourse the other reason is genetic problem that might occur

Whose maryada? Yours????????????

Chaupa Singh's rehatnama, also talk more respectfully about maryada, you lack the sense of respect . sometimes it makes me feel i am talking to a todler

there has to be a thread dedicated to Anti dasam bani traitors

with their names and details

so sangat can know about these idiots

as per maryada , you cannot marry in same gott

also , it could bring genetical defects to your future kids

they also have a bell, which rings after every 30 mins to remind,

time of death is near, go and meditate/pray

Any discussion on this subject is meaningless unless we understand properly the 'farla'.

My guess is that all the early Sikhs proudly had a farla in their dastars as it was the mark of a Sikh, i.e noble warriors who proudly stood up to extremist sunni Muslim ideology.

A little historical context is needed here. Prior to the formation of Islam it was Christians and Jews that wore turbans. Indeed, the turban was essential for Jews as the crowns upon their heads. Islam, however, proclaimed that only Muslims could wear a turban as it was mark of a Muslim. The Pact of Omar subsequently made it illegal for any Jew or Christian to wear a turban. This essential muslim headwear was notable for it's 'tail', as prescribed in the quran. For Sunni Muslims, the dastar must have a tail hanging down. Shia Islam, which was quite influential among the Sikhs given the cultural affinity of people such as Bhai Mardana etc, did not wear a tail in their turbans. Sikhs, deliberately had a farla in their dastars as it was the complete opposite of what the sunni muslims wore and a direct dare to them to do something about it if they can. Instead of the essential tail hanging down the Sikhs had a flag proudly going up. The flag that flies proudly above our heads, so to speak.

Point is, in terms of origins, there is nothing purely spiritual or divine about it. It was always a statement. So, as someone in a previous message described the video as a "fashion statement", he or she is not far from the truth in a historical context.

The farla then, is the mark of a Sikh, in contrast to the muslim tail in the turban.

you better watch what you are saying, farla was given by Guru Gobind Singh ji

do you even have any idea who farla dhari are and their jeevan?do you even know how hard is the rehat of farla dhari and how hard it is to obtain a farla!!

search it before you spout something again here

nanakshahi calender is stupid,
trying to copy gorgian


bikrami calender is moe detailed and better

Well there no instructions regarding Dastaar, but rather Gurubani says," bhekhi rabb na paey" that is you cannot receive God by wearing any guise or dress. And if you think , in Guru Granth Sahib ji , bani of saints like Kabir, Ravidas, Namma, Ramdev, and baba Farid is included by 5th Guru Ramdaas ji . Now these holy men had trimmed beards, shaven heads, some had headgear and some didn't. Because there is not fullness of truth left among Sikhs and their scholars, they are introducing symbols and trying to hold things together. I am afraid that will not be sufficient to quench the spiritual thirst of a person.

I am a latter-saints and read and listen to Gurbani day and night. I understand Gurubani shabad , because I have been endowed with the Gift of the Holy Ghost ( Ram naam ). Gurbani can only be understood by this gift as Gurbani was written by Gurus by the power of the Holy Ghost. You cannot understand the coded language of Gurbani simply by reciting.

And againg, this gift of Ram naam cannot be obtained by reciting Waheguru, rather it has to be bestowed upon by someone have authority from God.That authority vanished with the Tenth Guru. But Guru Govind ji left prophecies about the Restoration of that Authority and Khalis Dharm in our day, which has happened and I belong to that company of the saints. That is my firm faith and testimony. Anyone can find out.

Whaegur ji ka khalsa , Whaegurui Fathe.

stop missguiding people

learn to eradicate your home first and write fateh properly

Sabat surat dastar sira - Sri Adi Guru Granth Sahib ji

Veer ji,

I was born and brought up in Uk, and my cousins and sister were all open to dastar wale , whereas all my Indian cousins married monay despite some of them being brought up by dastarwale Pio ...samaj nahin aundi menoo per sanjog de gall aa I guess

its true even so called singhniyan in india want singhs who tie their beards