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In October just gone I came across a Singh who converted to Christianity just outside Darbar Sahib and was wearing a nihang bana and dastar. I started debating with him as to why he converted and why he was still wearing the Guru's bana, and my family thought I was being harsh.
But harshness aside, Christians, Muslims and Hindus are making inroads into Punjab whilst we sit back and say 'koi na.'
This is mainly the fault of the Sikh establishment ie jathedars and sgpc
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sikhsangat or any blog isnt the place to post about marital issues or naming and shaming,
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If you look at any rebel, militant or even terrorist group - there is always an estimate given in terms of how many fighters they have.
But when it comes to the armed sangarsh, there doesn't appear to be a breakdown in the numerical strength of Kharku Jathebandi's anywhere.
Is there a reference out there or does anyone know about how many Singhs joined each group, especially during the height of the movement.?
It would be useful for all to know, especially as the period between 1984 and 1995 forms a key part of our history!
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We don't live in the 17th century where countries make their money by taking over other countries and redirecting their resources. Sure there is deception and exploitation but it's of a different kind to what you posted......and with all due respect veeray.............the current Iraq crisis isn't due to one big 'conspiracy theory.'The west are practising colonialism 2.0, it would be fair enough if america wanted to fight jihadi's for trying to attack them. That is called a righteous war and a just war, but when you attack on false pretexts for a profit or for economic advancement then that is called an imoral war an unjust evil war. And that is what freemasonic america and the western govts are engaged in. Remember they have removed strongmen arab dictators with military action like saddam and gadaffi who were secular moderate muslims and hated caliphate khalifa supporters / jihadi's. With the west supporting these jihadi terrorists it shows what game plan they are playing, the western governments arent stupid if they can put a man on the moon they can sure well understand and plan for jihadi's taking power in the vacuum after toppling of dictators that controlled them. The west is following the ancient doctrine of do war through deception, They show a public face of wanting democracy wanting freedom wanting human rights but in reality if its not in there interests for such things then they will support and conduct terrorist acts aboard and even in their own nations via its proxies.
The west supplies arms and international support to salafi wahaaabi Islam-facist saudi arabia and its the house of saud (that the west propped up) that funds, trains and provides cover for these terrorist jihadi criminals all around the world. So if you follow the chain of command it is the west who is pulling the strings to destabilise the middle east to draw in shia iran and sunni arab states into conflict in order to finish the fighting resources of muslim countries so that Zionist Jewish state of israel is strengthened and can prosper.
These world powers are all fighting on ideological fronts you have the west that are freemasonic Zionists and you have the muslim sunni nations that are islamo-fascists. None of these powers are fighting for a righteous cause they are all fighting to enslave humanity and to make as much money on innocent peoples misery as they can.
Wars today cost billions and the cost isn't recompensed by Halliburton style rebuilding projects. In the 1980s the Soviet Union was financially bled dry by the cost of the Afghanistan War. The US have spent billions fighting two small wars in the last decade.
Countries like the US want to maintain and look after their own self interests, and will only fight small manageable wars. The world is like a game of chess and the west or Israel can ill afford a Middle East which threatens to engulf the entire region.
The US are not stupid and they will not directly or indirectly support jihadis who want to wage war against kafirs.
They have safeguarded Israel and the production of oil by giving aid to Middle East regimes but the Arab Spring have changed the dynamics of the region which now threaten not only Israel, but the interests of the West there and the geopolitical balance in the Middle East.
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I don't think the West can afford to support a Sunni Shia divide and allow extremists to take control of large swathes of land. Security agencies are concerned about hardened western jihadis who are fighting in Syria and Iraq, only to return and wage their jihad in the west.Seems like the west are playing a very clever game they are allowing the holy war between sunni's and shia's to take place.
If you see the rise of ISIS / ISIL you can trace it back to saudi's funding them and who funds the saudis? America does as a regional ally.
So the game plan is to draw shia iran into the conflict with saudi's proxy ISIL in iraq which will mean saudi gets involved and other sunni majority muslim counties.... it will be one hell of a war.... mean while the west will sit back and watch and only throwing a few cruise missles and drone strikes here and there effectively not doing much.
If we analyse what brutal vile indian govt did in regards to the Sikh uprising in punjab 1980s ...the Sikhs effectively had self rule for a while untll the evil USSR soviets and evil UK govt tory govt conspired with Indira's evil indian govt to destroy that legitimate self rule of the people.
So in that context we shouldn't let the mainstream media fool us because they are the mouthpieces of the western governments and propagandists we should analyse who benefits and how the game plan will be played out for pretexts to be created to launch more wars for the military industrial complex.
The Middle East provides a large amount of the Worlds oil and what the west needs in the Middle East is stability.
The entire notion of the US supporting sectarianism and jihadis in Iraq is the same as shooting yourself in the foot, because those jihadis hate everything the west stands for.
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its happening everywhere and is a sign of impending parlo
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sant ka nindak maha hathiyara sant ka nindak parmesar maara
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Where do you get your information from?
Bachans of Mahapurkhs like Baba Thakur Singh Jee and abhiyasi singhs
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Very very soon. But Khalsa Raaj will be preceded by a third world war and pole shift which means that most of us (especially those who do bad things) will not see it. If you look closely enough, you can see warning signs of both events with the increasingly extreme weather that occurs and world tensions.
Personally, I would be wary of the person in the video as there was another video of him criticising Sant Jee and the singhs of 1984.
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Its too late now panthic updates, the panth wont forgive gurbachan singh, even Bhai Gurbaksh Singh in his latest video has exposed how gurbachan singh has lied
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This petition or viewpoint should be made VIRAL. What jathedar stays quiet to please his political masters whilst a Gursikh starves himself to death for the release of our brothers.
A revolution first starts at home and we need to get our own house in order. The first step is to refuse to recognise a so-called jathedar who has served the panth on a plate to Badal.
The second step is to influence sangat within your circles,
The third step is to BOYCOTT him wherever he goes.
Only the sangat can send this message, THAT WE ARE AN INDEPENDENT QUAM WHO WILL NOT YIELD TO THE PUNJAB/INDIAN GOVERNMENT OR SUCCUMB TO IT'S STOOGES, WHETHER THATS BADAL OR GURBACHAN SINGH.
Jaago Singho!!
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Bhai Gurbaksh Singh Jee has been on a hunger strike for over 20 days demanding the release of Sikh political prisoners for time served. Their conviction and determination is unparalleled. Whilst we sit in relative comfort, the least that we can ALL do is a minimum of 10 CHAUPAI SAHIBS every day for his chardi kalla and the success of this morcha. Bhai Sahib has probably started to feel the effects of severe malnutrition whilst we cannot decide on a clear strategy and direction. By placing our faith in Maharaaj and reading Gurbani, they will bless the Panth with success. Whether we recite Chaupai sahibs or just listen to them, lets start today for Bhai Sahibs chardi kalla...
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As Sikhs, we don't believe in black magic. Yes, it is practiced by many and perhaps it can even work. But it's nothing compared to the might of the creator. Mool mantar is much stronger than any weirdo who saves your picture
Thats not true as baani clearly say 'prabh ke simran ridh sidh nau nidh. Ridhian sidhian is also a different type of magic/spiritual power that a person develops through kamaii.
Black magic on the otherhand does exist but the basic premise is that it comes back three fold on the person who does it.
It CAN be done by getting someones picture, just how some people use voodoo dolls to focus on the person they wish to curse.
But again, by doing simran, reading gurbani can negate or dramatically reduce the effects as nothing can compare to Guru Sahibs protection
Sukhmani sahib is extremely effective in countering any negative effects caused by it.
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We all talk about the issue of grooming by predominantly Muslim men but lets look at the root of the problem.
"It is for these reasons, and many more not listed, that I conclude that while treating the slave girl with compassion is mandatory, consent for sex is not a part of that obligation. Islam does not mention anywhere that consent is mandatory, and everything is allowed in Islam except what has been forbidden. Also, certain actions towards a slave which may considered to be harsh, such as beating the slave, are only forbidden if it is done unjustly - like if the slave accidentally burns your food. Obviously a slave has to obey his or her master, and that discipline is in order for those who refuse to comply. So force can be used on a slave. If this wasn't allowed, there never would have been such thing as slavery in the first place since all slaves would have ran away and their masters could do nothing to stop it.
The above Hadith mentions that the wife must goto the husband no matter what (ie, that she doesn't have a choice). Now if the wife does not have a choice, do you expect that a slave will have a better or even equal option?"http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?36750-Sex-slaves-in-Islam
The above quote is just one of many views from Muslims who feel that women can be used as war booty. This is more apparent in the context of Muslim men who believe that they are fighting a global jihad against the kuffirs and feel that any action is justified.
In public any Muslim representative would probably use taqiya (lie) to make out that grooming or sex-trafficking are against the tenets of Islam, but doctrine and history of Islam would perhaps say otherwise.
Not being anti-Muslim as there are many sincere Muslims out there who value compassion and humanity - but we need to realise that sex jihad, inequality of women, hatred of kuffrs, killing non-muslims, spreading terror and so on......are not the views of a small minority of extremists,,, but has alot to do with the fundamentals of Islam and the meanings of parts of the Quran.
Qur'an (33:50) - "O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those (slaves) whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee" This is one of several personal-sounding verses "from Allah" narrated by Muhammad - in this case allowing himself a virtually unlimited supply of sex partners. Others are restrained to four wives, but may also have sex with any number of slaves, as the following verse make clear:
Qur'an (23:5-6) - "..who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess..." This verse permits the slave-owner to have sex with his slaves.1 -
It was very refreshing to hear Sardar Manjit Singh – as it is not a viewpoint anyone outside India has the guts to express. We must separate “Sikh” interests from “Khalistani” interests. The 2 are opposed to each other.
Remember how Sikhs lived with arrogant pride, respect and relative prosperity before 84. All this was destroyed by the Khalistani movement . Let me highlight some of the points of the Khalistani episode that we brush under the carpet (or counter unconvincingly with conspiracy theories)
Hijacking buses – separating the passengers to kill non-Sikhs
Making the Harmindar Sahib a base camp for terror activities
Cutting holes in the marble to make machine gun placements.
Knowing full well that even an inept government will have to act to assert its authority and innocents will get killed............then assassinating the popular prime minister.
What did you think would result ? Was it any surprise that thousands of innocent Sikhs that never supported Khalistan got killed as collateral damage for the Khalistani cause.
The Khalistan agenda was thus achieved to the point where they managed to get great sympathy for the cause but could not actually deliver Khalistan. The government rightly gets the blame for the pogrom but who do you think is equally guilty ?
As respected Dr. Gurnam has said the idea of Khalistan is not practical or achievable. Therefore the only other option is making India work to its original secular ideals. That is the only way for Sikhs to flourish in ANY part of India
1. Who was doing the hijacking?
Hijacking buses and killing Hindu's was against the ethos of the dharam yudh morcha. Neither Sant Jee nor any panthic jathebandi advocated or directed the killing of innocent people. In fact in was common knowledge within panthic circles that the government was carrying out these atrocities to defame the Sikh movement. This was even admitted by the former DGP of police Ribeiro in his book.
2. The morcha was spearheaded from Sr Akaal Takht Sahib and the singhs were staying at the complex with consent of the quam. The allegation of 'terror tactics' is again classic government propaganda.
3. Where was marble cut or deliberate damage caused to the complex in preparation of the incoming attack? Sandbags were used for fortifications and no one could outweigh the respect given to the complex by the singhs who chose to die defending it,
4. The government attacked to destroy the strength and confidence of the sikhs.
Take your koorh parchar somewhere else..
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I think BolesoNihal makes some important points and Bhai Joga Singh's performance was commendable. As I have noted elsewhere, whatever you feel about Manjit Singh GK's own political views you have to give him credit for facing so much hostility with an open commitment to dialogue. He also said that whatever our political differences we should all come together as Sikhs when it came to Panthic Issues, and to their credit the Sikh Council UK agreed on this point.
So, given Manjit Singh GK's rejection of a sepperatist stand point, the real question is to what extent is the Khalistan agenda a 'Panthic Issue'? I would like to offer some thoughts on this. You may think this sounds like a rather silly question given that Sikhs in most Western countries have for the past 30 years been regularly demonstrating against the Indian Government and campaigning for the creation of Khalistan. Surely, one may think, after 30 years of campaigning we all know what Khalistan represents? However, if you look at the situation more closely, in the rather empty rhetoric of the pro Khalistan groups and in particular the actual strength of support they command, I think a different picture emerges. Let us assume that there are 50,000 devout Khalistanis in the UK and a similar number in the US, Canada and the rest of Europe. This gives us a total of 200,000 supporters of Khalistan. Now let us start looking at the picture in India. In Delhi alone there are over 1 million Sikhs and in India as a whole some 22 million. We all know that the demand for Khalistan in India is minimal. We know that because election after election Sardar Simranjeet Singh Maan on a Khalistan platform has done abysmally. I accept that the low support is partly due to media blackouts, but in todays world we have social media which has sparked off revolutions in some of the poorest countries in the world, but apparently not in India; we must ask why?
So the question isn't whether or not Khalistan is a good or bad idea, but that very few people have any interest in the idea. This would suggest that the advocates of Khalistan have failed to explain what they are demanding other than a hollow slogan and hatred for 'the Indian Government'. Manjit Singh's objections to Khalistan as a separatist demand were very clear. What about millions of Sikhs outside of Panjab? what about the immense sacrifice that Sikhs have and continue to make for India? And most of all in a world that is rapidly globalising and the vulnerability of minor currencies (See for example the Scottish Nationalists backtracking from replacing the pound with a separate currency) what chance can an independent Panjabi/Khalistan in such a turbulent economic climate.
You see, where you are a Manjit Singh supporter or not, you must accept that he did present some reasonable arguments and he was open to others, Khalistanis or not to make their case in a democratic and reasoned way. And it is to Bhai Joga Singh's credit that his contribution on the programme was both passionate, evidence based and reasonable. Indeed, I think it is one of the best ever expositions of the gross mistreatment of Sikhs in India. But the prblem is that there is no logical connection with arguing for justice and human rights and demanding Khalistan. They ares separate issues. The issue of human rights knows no borders and even if Khalistan was ever created would still exists. I think one will need to be pretty naive to thing that Khalistan will be some heavenly place where everybody and especially Sikhs is treated with respect. Perhaps we should contrast the dreams and aspiration that Muhammed Ali Jinnah had for the new and Independent Islamic State of Pakistan and the current pathetic disunited blood stained entity. What makes one so sure that Khalistan will not end up like that? Whether one likes it or not Sikhs too have their equivalent of Sunni and Shia. ALso, if one looks at the demographics of Panjab, then unless Khalistan will be a fascist state, how can you argue for a Sikh state where nearly 50% of the people are NOT Sikhs?
I know what some might be thinking, Khalistan will be a democratic state. That would be a good thing, but what then is the difference between Khalistan and the current Panjab and India; they to are notionally democratic states. Perhaps the counter argument is that Khalistan will be a truly democratic state. Well given the deficit of democratic principled amongst our own 'Panthic Jathebandhis' and the terrible mess we see in the Gurdwara elections, I am unsure we Sikhs really know what democracy is. How can one have any confidence in Khalistan when even the main jathebandhis that support Khalistan do not see eye to eye and in some cases have hatred for each other. And so, faced with the prospect of a Khalistan that could end up as another Pakistan, Palestine, Afghanistan or Iraq, then one can understand why most Sikhs in India would be very sceptical of such an idea. It is much easier for us in the west to make these demands; after all we will not have to live there! Given this scenario and given our demographic weakness, then I personably think that Manjit SIngh GK position is much more appealing, which summarised is as follows:
- Let us recognise our political differences, but let us also work together to defend Sikhs everywhere in the world on common issues, such as the daystar, release of political prisoners, justice for families of state sponsored terror etc.
- Let us fight for autonomy for Panjab and other states within a federal India along the lines of the US, Russian Federation or the EU perhaps.
- Let us fight those that project the Sikhs as anti-nationalists, separatists and terrorists and let us remind the rest of India and the world what brave sacrificed Sikhs have given to fight such forces from the times of the Mughal onwards.
- Let us exploit great opportunity to make their demands of human and civil rights in India through the very powerful DGPC which does give us access to 150 embassies in Delhi and Indian Government departments.
- Let us focus on education for that is the ONLY way we can save Sikhi.
- Let us provide support for the millions of Vanjara and Sikhighar Sikhs spread throughout india. They are our future.
- Let us connect and coordinate Sikh organisations across the globe so that we can use our collective power.
- Let us work with other political parties where it suits our electoral aims - politics is about power and there is very little you can do if you are not in power.
So, for the first time in 30 years we have somebody in Manjit Singh GK who has courage, vision, determination, intellect and political knowhow and all we can do is condemn him. This is really sad and just further confirmation of the bankruptcy of ideas amongst the present generation of Khalistan advocates. We will not create Khalistan by simply believing in our own propaganda. So the choice is simple: we can spend the next 30 years spouting off hollow slogans for Khalistan and insults to what is a amorphous entity called the Union States of India or we can begin to make a coherent case for Khalistan in which the non-Sikh population of Panjab does not feel threatened. However, whatever our feelings about Khalistan, the reality is that unless we as Sikhs act together we stand no chance what so ever. And therefore I urge everybody to take this opportunity, grab the olive branch and let us adopt a practical co-operative, collective approach that Manjit Singh GK has drawn our attention to.
This does not prevent us from pursuing democratically the demand for Khalistan and all the other things that Bhai Joga Singh in his contribution alluded to. Manjit Singh was correct to recall that Baba Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale never openly demanded Khalistan and that he was politically manipulated by the Congress, just as Sarna is trying to do today. What Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale did say was that if Khalistan was offered he would not make the mistake that our leaders made in 1947. But we all know Khalistan will not ever be offered to us! The other statement of support for Khalistan that is attributed to Baba Jarnail Singh ji is the a short time before the June 1984 attack when he said that "if the army attacks the Harimandar then the foundation stone of Khalistan would be laid". One can interpret this statement in many different ways, but most crucially, one needs to take into account the context. The Sikhs were demanding the Anandpur Resolution and the Government was dragging its heels. The morchas were in full and there was talk of some kind of strategic assualt on the Harimander. In this context, one might interpret his statement as a political or even negating ploy, a simply a deterrent on the basis that he did not thing the government would move. More controversially one could argue that the other than a few bullets Harminader, remained in tact although the Akal takht as we know was completely destroyer.
Last, it would be great if we could have an open, honest and civil debate about the future prospects of Sikhs in India and the relevance of Khalistan, but my worry is that the current crop of leaders neither have the capability or knowledge to mount a sustained and coherent argument that could convince not their own supporters, but the neutrals who really count.
Finally, please forgive me if I have hurt anybodies feelings or said something objectionably. I speak with immense love for the Panth and total respect for the Shaheeds who have and are laying down their lives to fight tyranny and state terror.
Dr Gurnam Singh (Please note I speak in a personal capacity and not for the Sikh Channel which, as noted by BoleSoniha is independent of all political parties and only interested in the truth)
Dr Gurnam Singh, I don't agree with some of your comments for the following reasons. What Sant Jarnail Singh Jee said in reference to the 'foundation stone of Khalistan' was not empty words or scare tactics, but rather a bachan from a Maharapurkh, who saw the wider picture of what was being played out.
This bachan was emphasised by the thousands of singhs and singhniya who have sacrificed their lives for this cause. In 1986 the Sarbat Khalsa set Khalistan as the goal of the Sikh nation.
There is no going back and the only way to safeguard our rights is through self rule. This should have been embedded into our thought process especially through the cultural genocide and human rights abuses we have suffered post 1984. Whether we wish to accept it or not, our quam is in a fight for survival in India.
Unfortunately there are some who still think we can 'make a go of it' in Hindustan and Manjit Singhs comments rub salt in the wounds.
No one can predict Khalistans' borders, just like the misl's who fought for their survival could not foresee Ranjit Singh's raaj.
But Guru Sahib and their mahapurakhs have assured us that one day the Khalsa will have Raaj and this day is not far.
In the meanwhile we should strengthen our jeevans and work for the benefit of the panth.
Personally I don't think that Manjit Singh is sincere in his thoughts for the following reasons. Sukhbir Singh was denied entry into Canada which was followed by the arrests of dozens of youths in Punjab on fabricated charges. Then Manjit Singh is sent as part of an Indian delegation to woo Khalistani's in the UK.
Manjit Singh is a spokesman of Badal and is playing politics by asking Sikhs to stand with the SAD-BJP alliance. Manjit Singh, knowing the sentiments of Sikhs has portrayed himself as a proud Hindustani and has sought to downplay Sant Jee's character and vision by saying that he was manipulated by Congress.
As Sikhs, we should not fall prey to petty politics that have been played out since 1947 and should rise above it.
Furthermore veer jee, in a separate comment linked to this topic, you said that Sikhs involve themselves in 'ritualistic meditation' and 'fancy dress.'
The sole command of Guru Granth Sahib Jee is 'jap' and nothing can be achieved without meditation or kamaii, great Gursikhs of the past bear testament to that. There is nothing 'ritualistic' about reading bani or doing simran.
The bana which I think you're referring to is the uniform of the Khalsa given by Guru Gobind Singh Jee and should not be referred to as 'fancy dress.'
Without sharda in Guru Sahib we will never get anywhere.
Bhul chuk maaf
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Please check out the below link including related articles, and see how Christian missionaries are actively targeting the Sikh community worldwide.
Unfortunately there is a rising trend of Sikhs converting due to lack of knowledge/awareness of Sikhi. They have a dedicated website - www.sikhoutreach.org
http://www.commissionstories.com/asia/stories/view/sikh-pastor-has-a-vision-of-transformation
Sikh people are open to the Gospel, Singh says.
“Sikh people need Jesus, and Sikh people are in search of God, but they just need a little bit indication that this is the true way,” Singh says. “Whenever they come to Christ, they come in full faith. They will not slide back.”
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i support them, there is no sikh movement or even enough unity between the youth to tackle any issues within our community properly so why not give this a try
from browsing this site and occasionly posting i can already see that most people on here live sheltered lives and have probably never had any issues with the muslim community, so you wont understand, all this awareness, internet groups and gurdwara meetings with pappus wont solve anything
I've been in loads of fights with muslims from when I was younger, that includes ending up in hospital, so I'd disagree about the 'sheltered life' view you have and I'm sure many else will given their own experiences.
If we're truly worried about the 'spread of Islam' and think the answer is siding with white vigilante gangs or acting like gangsters, then we need to have more faith in Guru Sahib.
No doubt there are loads of Muslim extremists and we've all seen what their mission is, but we need to focus and gain strength of reading baani and following Maharaaj.
Having said that, respect to groups who have protected the honour of our community, against anyone who wishes to harm it.
By following Maharaaj, that's where singhs get their strength.
But agree with you that there are too many pappu's in the community, we see them come out of the woodwork when the youth protest or do something for a worthwhile cause.
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The people here advocating hate of muslims, understand one thing.
When muslims killed millions of hindus during moghul raaj, none of the Guru Sahibaans preached hate towards one religion. Instead they raised the sword against the tyrant, regardlesss of what religion the tyrant followed, whether it was the moghuls, afghans, or hindu hill rajas.
Their actions set a precedent for us to follow.
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Maharaaj has given the panth the gift of khande pahul di daat and the ability to stand on our own two feet.
Guru Gobind Singh Jee has made his Khalsa fight 125,000.
We don't need to rely on others for support. When the 2011 riots happened the Sikhs were out protecting places of worship where the edl were no where to be seen.
Sikhi teaches us to be 'nirvair' - without hate. This principle is against the ethos of the edl who are anti - islam in every way, shape or form.
Therefore when it comes to the edl, sikhs don't need to join the pro or anti camps.
By doing so, it shows that we are moving away from the principles of gurmat and having faith in maharaaj
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The rumour about Sant Jee being a 'congress agent' was started by Longowal and the Akali's, who resented the impact that Sant Jee had on the masses.
However none of Sant Jee's actions or words have given any substance to this rumour. People nowadays who do not like or understand what Sant Jee stood for
- propagate this myth to give comfort to their over inflated ego's.
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you can't get to sachkhand without taking amrit. in 1699 even dasmey patshah too amrit, that shows us how necessary it is.
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I just have one request... Please don't give up on life because of prophecies. Keep getting an education, keep striving to become successful, keep supporting your family, keep uplifting your Sikhi,
I have seen and heard people making prophecies for a long time now (I'm probably older than alot of you), and one thing I have noticed over and over again is that the prophecy dates keep on changing. In 2002 they were saying 2007 is the end... Then 2007 came and went, and people started saying 2012. And now we are again pushing it to 2016. It's the same trend over and over.
If you want to believe these prophecies, that's your own choice, all I'm saying is please don't give up on things you strive for in life.(for example: what's the point in getting married, finishing university etc if the world is gonna end anyways?) And don't max out your credit cards!
Gurbani says 'Ik saadh bachan atladha'
Brahmgiani mahapurkhs from Sant Gurbachan Singh Jee Baba Jawala Singh Jee and more recently Baba Thakur Singh Jee have given bachans about World War 3 and immense environmental changes before Khalsa Raaj.
These bachans should not be dismissed and fall into a different category than the usual 'crackpot prophecies' that we can google in an instant.
Specific dates have not been given as the dates fluctuate between the amount of beadbi happening and compassionate ardaasa of kamaii wale Gursikhs who do not want to see this level of carnage. But one thing for sure is that the timing cannot be be delayed any further.
Baba Amar Singh Jee released a video about all this happening in 1997 and gave specific dates which were meant to be kept gupt. A Brahmgiani Mahapurkh did ardaas in order to delay it.
Since and before then there have been random predictions all the time but nothing to back it up.
In 2012 there was a big 'end of the world' hype but no Mahapurkh named 2012 as a specific year.
However, kamai wale Singhs and Mahapurkhs have said that it will happen in the next few years, this topic is evidence of that.
The aboveveer jee I quoted has made some valid points. We shouldn't just sit around and wait for all this to happen and should get on with our lives.
But on the same token we have been told to prepare by increasing our nitnem, getting baani kant, keeping shasters and basic survival skills.
Whether we believe in these bachans or not, in Sikhi we are meant to be tyar bar tyar so ill-preparedness is not an excuse.
Gurbani says 'Ik saadh bachan atladha'
Brahmgiani mahapurkhs from Sant Gurbachan Singh Jee Baba Jawala Singh Jee and more recently Baba Thakur Singh Jee have given bachans about World War 3 and immense environmental changes before Khalsa Raaj.
These bachans should not be dismissed and fall into a different category than the usual 'crackpot prophecies' that we can google in an instant.
Specific dates have not been given as the dates fluctuate between the amount of beadbi happening and compassionate ardaasa of kamaii wale Gursikhs who do not want to see this level of carnage. But one thing for sure is that the timing cannot be be delayed any further.
Baba Amar Singh Jee released a video about all this happening in 1997 and gave specific dates which were meant to be kept gupt. A Brahmgiani Mahapurkh did ardaas in order to delay it.
Since and before then there have been random predictions all the time but nothing to back it up.
In 2012 there was a big 'end of the world' hype but no Mahapurkh named 2012 as a specific year.
However, kamai wale Singhs and Mahapurkhs have said that it will happen in the next few years, this topic is evidence of that.
The aboveveer jee I quoted has made some valid points. We shouldn't just sit around and wait for all this to happen and should get on with our lives.
But on the same token we have been told to prepare by increasing our nitnem, getting baani kant, keeping shasters and basic survival skills.
Whether we believe in these bachans or not, in Sikhi we are meant to be tyar bar tyar so ill-preparedness is not an excuse.
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Nigel Farage in a recent interview with Trevor Phillips said that a UKIP government would scrap anti - discrimination and race relations legislation. Sikhs should not form alliances with white closet racists, even if they sometimes flatter and praise us for our 'contribution to society.'