DaljitKaur24

I feel that this kind of topic gets really out of hand when it becomes religion vs science. On one side upu have people saying its ones bad deeds in past life that they are this way in this life. Meanwhile on the other hand you have those that believe when a mother is pregnant their were something wrong with the chromosomes. I think its really ill to thibk or judge a little child with disabilities by saying they have done something bad in their previous lIfe and therefore they are disabled now. As sikhs i thought we are not suppose to be quick to judge? I rather like to think of it as it is what it is. Every person is unique whether he or she is so called normal or is disabled.

I believe that if he didn't intentionally do something then the power of Ardaas should not be underestimated. My dad was caught up in a lawsuit like 20 some years ago but he was innocent because my dad is a simple humble man some gorays trying to get money out of him. He had a strong faith in Guru ji and so did my mom. She did a lot of paath and ardaas for him and my dad was proven not guilty. They(they witnesses) admitted that it wasn't him but some other guy. I personally believe that ardaas to Guru ji is very powerful but for the right reasons. If it was unintenionally done and did not mean to harm anyone. Remember that Guru ji is always watching and punishes those that try to play Him. And if he is cleared from the case make sure he should be thankful of Guru ji!

P.S If he committed a tax fraud that obviously he knew what he was doing so he should have seen that coming.

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I think people just find only the youth to blame and I'm serious tired of this. Stop blaming the youth, yes they are partially to be blamed for their actions but not entirely. Part of it is the parents, gurdwara committies, media, and western culture. Some parents are too busy working that they don't teach their kids the simple well known facts about Sikhi. I'm always so suprised that I've seen other Punjabis(Sikhs) that have been brought up in India and have come to U.S in their late teens don't know much about Sikhi even though they are more exposed to it in India than the youth that was brought up here. I was about 7 when I came to the U.S but I know how to do the paath and I know the basic facts of Sikhi because my parents made sure we knew about Sikhi about my culture. Some parents don't put restrictions on their kids early on in life and when those teenage years hit they are not going to listen to the parents. And it's at that time when they try to divert their kids back to Sikhi which will not happen after they have been so exposed to other things in life. The other thing that is to blame is some gurdwaras who care more about politics than about teaching the youth about Sikhi. Our Gurdwara has had its ups and downs. Politics is still huge here, no one on the committe is young and therefore they are not able to understand the youth. Luckily they have couple of Great Sikhs here that know spreading the message to the youth is very important so they give lectures in English, they have classes in english, activities for the youth(such as dastaar contest). They have screens in the darbar hall which translates the kirtan in english and they have tvs in the langar hall so sangat still is connected to Guru ji. Those are some good aspects of it but I feel a lot of them come to the langar hall to gossip which is mostly done by the elder ladies. They are the ones that need to set a good example that Gurdwara Sahib is pavitaar and we come their to come closer to Guru ji to learn about Guru ji and not to gossip. But I guess our community doesn't really have a lot of events outside of the Gurdwara Sahib where all the Sikhs can get together and chat and leave the Gurdwara solely for connecting with Guru ji. People should stop blaming the youths because they just didn't decide one day "Oh I'm not gonna follow Sikhi." Elder generation needs to take a iniative to help them steer this way by coming up with unique fresh solutions that would appeal to the youth. Especially the Gurdwara Sahib committe that doesn't really seem to be concerned about the youth.

Yes I have tried it myself , my workout routine is more intense (more powerlifting style of lifts) - I decided to keep the exercise part low intensity so even an 80 year old can follow this.

.... it works wonders - my blood pressure went from 125/78 to 110/70 and I feel so much more energetic ......, also I have lost 5 pounds from my midline ....

yes you repeat the meals for next 7 days and if you wish you can add variety in lunches / dinners as long as there is no dairy /oil/ sugar in them .

I do little bit of weight lifting(very little) but just run on the treadmill and do the elliptical. As far as the BP I have really low BP for some reason. Losing another pound or so is always better!! I'm going to start it tomorrow lets see how it goes.. I usually feel very sluggish because I'm anemic and hypothyroid so hopefully this will give me a boost of energy! Especially for the summer weather. How long did you do it for that you lost that 5 pound? Will let you know how it goes for thise next week. It would be nice to make that a routine with avoiding oil and sugar! Thanks for sharing.

Some mitha?

Dates & coconut laddos

ingredients :

200 gms dates

100 gms desicated coconut

100 gms finely chopped cashewnuts (should look like grated cheese, i don't know how else to describe)

100 gms finely chopped almonds

Mix all the above ingredients so they form a nice dough. Using your hands, make small laddos and they're ready to eat.. No cooking required

Wow who would have thought ladoos are this wasy to make? They are probably very sweet though? Oh well you need a cheat day once in a while too!!! Hahaha. The dates are to be kept whole or you need to chop them? Thanks for sharing deffo gonna try it out!!

I consider myself pretty healthy but because my husband eats alot of food related to oil I feel like I have a lot of toxins I nee to get rid of and start to feel fresh and less tired. Have u personally tried this? Has it worked? Do u repeat those 7 days meals for the next 3 weeks? I'm thinking about trying this because I wanna feel energetic and rejuvenate my skin!!

It would be nice if others share their healthy recipies also since sometimes Indian Food sometimes tend to be little on the unhealthy side. This would really help out others as well!

Healthy Salad

Ingredients:

1. Salad of your choice

2.Low Fat Ranch(w/o eggs)

3. Cucumber

4. Tomatoes

5. Crutons

Method:

1. Chop lettuce in bit size pieces(don't make it too small), also dice cucumbers and tomatoes.

2. Add little or as much dressing to coat the salad mixture and add the crutons in it.

3. Put it in the fridge for a little bit about half an hour or so and eat!

Enjoy!!

Apricot Smoothie

Ingredients:

1. Apricots(You can also use peaches or nectarines if you prefer)

2. Sugar(According to taste)

3.1/4 Plain Yogurt(adjust according to your taste)

4. 1/4 cup Milk(adjust according to taste. Add more if you don't like the smoothie to be too thick)

5. Ice

Method:

1. Slice apricots and put it into the blender with Sugar and yogurt.

2. Put milk in there also to help the mixture get going.

3. Also put ice if you want to. Mix everything together until all of the apricots are nicely mixed in .

4. Taste and if you need to add anything else in feel free

Enjoy!

Just go for it. I voted 'Maybe' by the way. :lol2:

Hahaha thnks! Even for that maybe lolz

It took me 2 years to get to this point. Been growing my hair and beard for a while too now and getting myself acquainted with Gurbani as well. I don't feel like doing anything now. I think I wanna move out, be stable, and take Amrit.

Yea Guru Ji wouldn't want you to move out like that. You need to stand up for what you believe in. Just take Amrit and continue to live with your family. The power of Amrit is so strong that your father won't be able to stay mad at you. Just stay positive and think thoroughly threw that your ready to take Amrit. I'm confident that your family will also change their view towards you and towards the Power of Amrit.

I asked my Dad if I could go take Amrit and he blatantly refused and said "bandeya vale kum kareya kar" I took it to the heart. I always listen to my Dad man but wt*. He shouldn't have said that. So dissapointed. Like I dont know what could be more manly...

My parents are the opposite they want me to take amrit but I'm just not fully ready. I think you don't need to take his permission from anyone. Your not out to do anything bad. This is a great step. Maybe your dad feels guilty because he's not amritdhari? (sorry i don't mean to be rude). He probably doesn't want others to think that the son is amritdhari and the dad isn't. Just don't worry dad might be mad in the beginning but as he sees you in that roop he will be proud of you. Just go for it. You should consider yourself lucky that Guru ji gave that courage to take amrit. Just stay strong and proud. Good luck to you.

My brother got it done about two years ago. Very successful in his case. No more glasses and contacts. Of course there are precautions which depends on your age and health. My dad got it done this past 6 months ago even though i did not want him to due to his age and him being a diabetic but still successful. Better to consult a doctor than to go by others experiences. Defintely thoroughly think threw it first

I agree with the above member there's no point of dwelling over what already happened. Rather focus on the present and the future. Sometimes we have to go through bad deeds and time for good ones to develop. A lot of people have had bad incidents in their life but the point is to rise above it. Which you are obviously doing. I think it's very courageous of you to do paath by yourself at the gurdwara just keep doing that and don't think what others think of you. Because then there would be no point of doing paath if you are caught up in what others think. Just keep your head up and keep doing paath and seva and Guru ji will definetly give you peace of mind.

"Any knowledge of dangerous Amritdhari's who are pledged to commit murders, arson and acts of terrorism, should immediately be brought to the notice of the authorities. These people might appear harmless from outside but they are basically commited to terrorism. In the interest of all of us their identity and whereabouts must always be disclosed."

This was what Indira Gandhi said before Operation Woodrose to the magazine

http://gurmatbibek.com/forum/read.php?3,14301,14336

Sorry it's Bat Cheet

Recently listening to the panthic debate on Dasam Granth again and the panthic singhs at 6.10 says a name of a magazine, in which the indian government published a document saying that Amritdhari Sikhs are a terrorists but i couldn't catch the name of the magazine to find the article he mentions, can someone help identify the name of the magazine Bhai Sahib mentions and find the document.

Starts at 6.10

Sikh Badcheet Magazine...

So you do not have faith in the hukumnama of the Sri Akal Takht Sahib issued by Panj Singh?

I do not understand why you want to stop your husband eating it? From your last post you obviously think meat eating is a NO NO in Sikhi and no doubt this misguided thought (misguided in the sense that the humumnama cearly states meat eating is OK) has influenced your desire to stop your husband eating meat.

For me personally its more about how I feel about it. I do paath, agarbaati, jot jagani and i personally cant wrap my head around having meat in around those pavitaar places. Once again i would like to state its my personal opinion whether or nOt to eat it because thats what I was taught and it doesnt matter. if its written or not but its a personal choice and i was asking for opinion about how to have him stop not to have an argument whether or not Sikhs can have eat it or not.

Bhul chukh muaaf

Doesn't matter. Start from the beginning, start on a full moon and finish on a full moon then do ardaas on puranmashi and say it was the bheta you promised.

I was always taught to do half/half ie three malas of mool mantar and five japji sahibs. When I tried to do ten japji sahibs I got bored. But the three malas and five japjis were easier to focus on.

So basically if I originally said i will do mala but i want to do japji sahib it should be fine? Thanks

There is a hukumnama from the Akal Takht which makes a clear stand on the meat issue.

Let him enjoy his jhatka pork chops and jhatka chicken.

No doubt this thread will soon be closed as discussions on meat are not allowed. Never really understood why such discussions are not allowed because the Akal Takht Hukumnama issued by Panj Singh clarified the issue in the 1980s.

Well I had asked the adm in my first comment not to close this because I'm not asking why or why arent we allowed to eat meat but how can I stop my husband. I just mentioned the statement u quoted becuz someone said to look up halal and jhatka and thats where the question arose. There is no doubt in my mind that whether Sikhs should eat or not meat i know my opiniom and my answer to that which is NO. Anyways if the admin wants to close this thread they can because i've gotten some hopefully good solutions that might work for my husband. Thanks to everyone who responded

Because Bhenji Kirtan is Gurbani and Gurbani is Guru. Katha, like I stated above, may be opinionated. Inside Sachkhand Sri Harmandir Sahib only Gurbani should be recited because its the truth and its our Guru. Therefore Kirtan and Katha cannot be compared because Kirtan is Gurbani.

Alright thanks...i'm just going to end this topic here lolz..thanks to everyone for the insight!

Can someone look at this video. It's very disturbing. The guy says Guru ji ate meat also. I don't know how I go on to report this?...I feel like I opened a can of worms.