MKaur89

Wahegurujikakhalsawahegurujikifateh,

Amazing achievement!

In the back of my mind I still think why oh why could your surname not have been Singh?

Singh's Layer sounds so much better than Dua's layer!

Gurusahib kirpa karo

Wahegurujikakhalsawahegurujikifateh

I was thinking the exact same thing about how it would have been better if he used the name Singh and then I saw your post.

Singh12345.... not so hard , see my current diet below

Sure neo feel free to feed on yourself ...or by that argument any other animal .... would be raw but wont be vegan for sure ...

Here is another video for motivation

My diet -

Morning - Oatmeal with blueberries (soaked overnight ) ,

Afternoon - sprout salad (moong dal sprouts with tomatoes/onion/cucumbers/zucchinni.......)

Evening - vegetable smoothie , one mango

peanuts with raisins

snacks - apples, avocado , mango bananas , orange

I have also toyed with the idea of going from vegetarian to vegan but just know I'd find it too difficult and I'd get so bored of the things I'm eating. I can't imagine fruit and nuts filling me up. And it's a hassle trying to find half-decent vegan alternatives for things you already like ie. milk, cheese, etc. Also, the specialist health/food stores that stock vegan products are quite expensive so all in all I don't think I could ever turn vegan, which is strange because I found it quite easy to become vegetarian. I think vegans are also recommended to take supplements such as vitamin B12 and I think iron tablets may also be a good idea to prevent anaemia.

The sad thing is that she has this 'religious' tattoo but she is an actress in films that promotes things that contradict a Gursikhi jeevan, for example caste, alcohol consumption, beadbi of kesh, pre-maritial relationships, manmat songs and dancing etc. She is free to do whatever she wants, either follow your religion or don't, but don't mix gurmat with manmat and present a confused message to the masses. Gurbani is not some kind of fashion accessory which you use to look 'cool' or 'edgy' or be a bit different. Gurbani is above and beyond that.

Also, we can never do enough satkaar of Gurbani, but we can always try our utmost best. After all, 'bani guru guru hai bani'.

ਬਾਣੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਗੁਰੂ ਹੈ ਬਾਣੀ ਵਿਚਿ ਬਾਣੀ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਸਾਰੇ ॥

Baanee Guroo Guroo Hai Baanee Vich Baanee Anmrith Saarae ||

The Word, the Bani is Guru, and Guru is the Bani. Within the Bani, the Ambrosial Nectar is contained.

I never knew there was a grey area regarding tattoos, I always thought it was clear that any bodily piercings and tattoos (ie. body modification) is equivalent to beadbi of kesh. Yes some Gursikh elders have Ik Onkar on their hands but I'm sure there are also some Sikh women who had their ears pierced at a young age but now they are Amritdhari and so do not wear earrings but obviously their ears are still pierced.

I've been talking to counsellors for the past 2 years, I always fall and then I go for help and then we come up with a plan and it never works out that's why I just go to the bathroom and cry instead of going and seeing my counsellor. Today I've been hiding under my blanket the entire day and I haven't done nothing not eat not shower no nitnem no nothing I've been just sitting and hiding and no ones asking me how I'm doing or what's up and all that I think everyone's too scared

That's sad. How come your family have not noticed that you have spent your entire day like this? They have a duty to help you and you can only get better with their support. You are too young to be wasting your life like this. Regarding counselling, it's best to continue going to the sessions rather than giving up. They say initially it feels worse as you open up to all your problems but then it gets better. Maybe your mental health needs to be assessed and you may need some kind of anti-depressants to lift your mood. I know that medication should be kind of like a last resort but maybe that's the only thing that will do the trick in your case. I understand that sometimes people don't have good friends that they can confide in, or maybe they can't talk to their teachers or family, but it's a real shame that you seem to have nobody to be able to share your concerns with. What you really need is a good friend or family member to help pull you out of this 'darkness'. You need someone to support you, either sit with you through counselling to make sure you attend the sessions or take you to the doctors and explain how you feel and talk to your teachers about your academic concerns. Maybe try calling some kind of organisation or charity or Sikh helpline in your country that can direct you to a local help point. You really need someone to help you because on here we are all just going round in circles. Maybe try writing a letter to your mum instead explaining how you feel if you find it too difficult to tell her in person.

I fight with my mom everyday, I'm not close with anyone in my family. My friends they don't ever give 2 shits cuz they can't handle my sadness so this just walk out on me. Now I'm all alone suffering I didn't go to school today again and there's like a week left of school and Im so depressed it's the end of the world my life is officially o.v.e.r OVER !!!! and there's so many other problems of course it's the end of the world and of course my life is officially over!

Can you try speaking to someone at school? Like a teacher you can trust or counsellor or someone in charge of student welfare? Maybe talking through your problems in person can provide some form of release and may also allow you to draw up a plan of action on how best to tackle your problems. If you keep missing school, it's going to keep getting worse. No matter how bad things get right now, your life is not over you are still young and have plenty of opportunities to get yourself back on track. But, health (mental health and physical health) comes first so try dealing with that first and then you can sort out your studies and academic issues. You need to face your problems and try to resolve them otherwise you're going to keep facing an uphill battle.

^^^

Fair comment ...

Also a concern is who will run our Gurdwara outside of Khalistan ie in dehli Mumbia etc, as all Sikhs living in these cities will leave dehli and Mumbia and Move to Khalistan, and Hindu Punjabis will have to leave what was Punjab. what wil happen to their Mandirs ??

I guess a simple one is housing, the Sikhs who come from dehli and mumbia to live in Khalistan can have the houses that Hindu Punjabis have vacated and vicer versea.

Whether Delhi will be included in Khalistan or not (as suggested by JasSinghKhalsa) what's the guarantee that Sikhs living in the non-Khalistan parts of India will want to move to Khalistan? I can't imagine 100% of Sikhs in India who live outside Panjab will give up their livelihoods, homes and jobs to move to Khalistan.

Um who is little Wayne?

Here he is http://cdn.urbanislandz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/lil-wayne.jpg

This is a medical problem so why not do the sensible thing and book an appointment to see your doctor?

Judging by all your other posts, I sometimes wonder if you are just a really unlucky person or are you even being genuine? It's mind-boggling.

First of all, judging by a few of your posts I've read in the past, you need to stop labelling yourself and others or what you perceive yourself or other people to be. Phrases like "manmukh", "Gurmukh", just leave them alone as you sound very immature when on one hand you seem to be in quite a few serious pickles yourself, yet you consider yourself superior to others on account of what exactly? You've taken Amrit? Good for you, but that doesn't mean the job is done. I'm guessing you're young hence the lack of maturity on your part regarding these matters so just some friendly advice: Until you reach brahmgian status you (and all of us) are manmukhs. There are very few Gurmukhs around. Giving up television, music, etc., doesn't make one a Gurmukh.

Also, again going by a few of your previous posts, I think you've mentally convinced yourself you have issues because you've taken Amrit and you've relinquished your past lifestyle whatever that use to be. There's no need to punish yourself. You don't need to suffer in order for your status as an Amritdhari to be valid in the eyes of... whoever you're trying to prove these things to.

Secondly you need to take responsibility for your own actions as there seems to be quite a large disconnect between reality and your own outlook on life, and a balance needs to achieved. It's great you've given your head to Guru Sahib, but by doing so you must also understand YOU need to do a lot of the heavy lifting; He shows us the way, yet with his kirpa we need to take those steps. I hope you understand what I'm trying to say.

Thirdly, the fact that this difficult period for you (I won't call it 'mental illness' as that may be over-egging your problem but it sounds pretty darn close) is considered to be "behzti and dumb" is probably one of the reasons you aren't getting the requisite support to help deal with your problems. I suggest your parents stop worrying about what people will think if they discover their daughter is suffering for whatever reason, and instead do something to help their child. Burying their head in the sand won't make this problem go away.

Excellent post, you are one of the very few people left on this forum who talks sense and gives frank, non-judgemental advice. If the OP chooses to read and follow the advice of only one post in this thread, it should be this one.

Regarding your school work, I think it's best to speak to somebody at school (like your teachers) and share your concerns with them regarding graduating late and getting good marks. They know your previous marks, they know what ability you have and they have probably guided students through similar problems (missing classes, falling behind, graduating late etc) and they can give you the best academic advice. Now, even if you do graduate late, or have to spend an extra semester at school, it doesn't seem too bad as after all you hope to start university in May and will be done with the extra semester by January.

Now the other issue is your state of mind and honestly, this seems like your biggest problem at the moment. Until you sort this out, you will keep struggling at school no matter how hard you try. I have read through some of your previous posts and it seems like a lot of issues you go through seem to be because you are mentally imbalanced. Mental health is such a taboo topic in Panjabi culture and it's a real shame because of course mental illnesses are just like other physical illnesses and just because you cannot see it, it doesn't mean that it does not exist. It's sad that you are battling depression or some sort of mental imbalance as you are still young and have so much to experience and so many more highs and lows to go through in your life but it seems like you are battling it alone. You talk about 'baisti' and your parents not being 'proud' if you graduate late. But they should be more worried about your health, and your mental health. I would hate for my sisters to be going through what you are, and not being able to openly discuss it with me or our parents. Your parents made the choice to bring you into this world, and they need to help you get the best possible support to overcome the problems you are facing and this 'depression'. Your parents' responsibility is not just raising you and putting you through school so that you get a good job and then get married and live happily ever after, they need to fully understand what you are going through. But you have a responsibility too. Parents are not mind-readers (despite sometimes claiming to be) so you need to summon the courage to tell your mum and dad everything you wrote in your original post. They are the real people who need to read what you wrote above. We can only give you so much advice, but whether you listen to it or not is up to you. And I understand that even by just writing that post, you may feel like a small weight has lifted off your shoulders as you have poured out your emotions but your parents and family are the ones close by you who can get you the help you really need. All we can do here is talk, but they can act. No amount of talking is going to rid you of your problems, no matter how wise the person is. You need to get some sort of professional help as soon as possible. No matter how hard it is, you have to be open and honest with your parents so you can get the right medical and academic help that you so desperately need.

Also, choosing to quit your medication on your own is quite a naive thing to do and means you are taking two steps back on the road to recovery. People who take medication for mental illnesses often feel that they are getting much better now that they are taking their tablets and they start to think that they can manage without the medication so they prematurely make the decision to stop taking it- which in hindsight is a foolish thing to do as more often than not the same mental symptoms start coming back and are usually much worse. You should always follow the correct medical advice, it's for your own benefit. If you are having issues with certain medical professionals, then tell someone or make a complaint or ask to be referred to an alternative instead. Don't suffer in silence or quit your treatment. Or you'll spend your whole life in and out of doctors' offices and hospitals and on and off anti-depressants.

Your problems are nothing to do with being amritdhari or manmukh or gurmukh. Your problem is your mind and the attitude that your parents have. You need to tell them how you feel before it's too late. If you get the right help then you can still do well in your studies, August is still quite some time away. Maybe sit with your brother, a friend or cousin or aunty or somebody you trust and ask them to help you talk to your parents about how you feel. You just need the right support from your family and doctors and a push in the right direction and some more encouragement from school. Do ardas to Maharaj to help you overcome your problems whilst still staying strong in your Sikhi. Don't give up. Sewa, simran, bani and sangat are the best remedies for any problem, big or small. Don't let go of your nitnem. People say, those who never let go of their nitnem, Guru Nanak Dev Ji never lets go of their arm. Those people who do give up their nitnem, it's not that Guru Ji has let go of their arm, but that person has forcefully pulled their arm back from Guru Ji.

5 years later...

Why does this observation deserve its very own thread?

did anyone hear what happened and the big cover up ???

What was Dr Garcha's involvement? It's not clearly explained. He's my GP.

Thanks Bhaaji.

You know of good streets around Slough and Hays to move to (if I tell you indirectly, where we don't want to move, and if you know what I mean) ...

I'm a girl...and I don't know the Slough or Hayes area at all as I'm from a bit further out. I just knew of the schools I mentioned earlier as I was considering moving to one of them for my A-Levels but then I had a change of mind. It might be worth visiting the local Slough and Hayes gurdwaras and talking to sangat who live locally who can advise you on what areas are nice to live in and which streets to avoid etc.

All the above are in consideration, in addition to Kendrick Grammar School in Reading, and Watford Grammar School for Girls, as we plan to move near about that area in 6 months time. But the point is these above Grammar schools will not teach Punjabi / Sikhism, which I believe will be taught in Khalsa Secondary school, any comment?

As far as I am aware, Khalsa Secondary School in Slough is due to open in September 2013? At the moment there is only a primary school I think. I do remember that recently consultations were being carried out and local residents were being asked their opinions regarding the opening of a new Sikh school which will be in the village of Stoke Poges. Admission will start from this September. I got this info from the website.

http://www.khalsasecondaryschool.com/index.html

There's also Guru Nanak Sikh Academy in Hayes. I just read their latest Ofsted report from 2008 and it was graded Outstanding (grade 1) in all sections. Check out their website and I've also attached the Ofsted report to this post.

Guru Nanak Sikh Academy website: http://www.gurunanaksikhacademy.co.uk/page/?title=Home&pid=1

Link to their Ofsted report: http://www.gurunanaksikhacademy.co.uk/page/?pid=76

Guru Nanak Academy Ofsted.pdf

I have a similar question for Slough / M4-Corridor. Can somebody recommend me a good Grammar school Secondary for Girls, How is KHALSA SECONDARY SCHOOL, SLOUGH, I know it is not a Grammar school, but how good it is academically - I am more than happy to consider KHALSA SECONDARY SCHOOL, SLOUGH as compared to a GRAMMAR School if it is not S****h dominated and is good a academically, and there is sufficient teaching of Gurbaani/Punjabi etc.

Have you considered Slough Grammar School, Langley Grammar School and Herschel Grammar School? These three are all in/near Slough. Tiffin Girls' School in Kingston is a bit further away but is also a good local grammar school. These schools have good reputations locally, you should also check out the websites of all these schools (and also any other Sikh schools) and read the latest Ofsted report and see what ratings the schools got.

_{This shabad springs to mind by Bhagat Kabir ji on ang number 1349-1350:}

_{ਅਵਲਿ ਅਲਹ ਨੂਰੁ ਉਪਾਇਆ ਕੁਦਰਤਿ ਕੇ ਸਭ ਬੰਦੇ ॥}

EDIT: Posted in the wrong thread.

I wonder if some of the people posting here would give the same advice if it was their sister or daughter in the same situation as the OP...

That's what I thought initially, but I just found it.

It's by Sant Niranjan Singh. It's the first track on the link below.

http://www.sikhsangeet.com/albumid252-Niranjan-Singh-(Jawaddi-Kalan-Wale)-Aarti-Mohalla-5.html

Everyday after Rehras and Ardas, Amrit Bani Radio play Aarti, but I don't know who sings this. Does anybody know? It's usually on just before 6pm (UK time).

The voice sounds familiar but I can't quite place it. I've tried looking for the track online but no luck so far.

Hopefully someone on here knows and so can help. Thanks.

Head count of these kind of people is very big.

That is so, so true. To sit in sangat is a blessing in itself, but to sit in sangat with your mind attuned to the Guru's shabad and nothing else, is a bigger blessing. These people are very rare. For many people, their physical body may be in sangat, but their mind is elsewhere but if you try your best to incorporate discipline in to every aspect of your Sikhi jeevan then hopefully this can change. Otherwise without discipline and rehat, we are just empty shells who talk the talk but don't walk the walk.