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1) Though UK groomers happen to come from Muslim community, they appear to be in Mirpuri areas in most cases. That suggests cultural issues. I live in Uk where Turks Cypriot Muslim are on same number as us. I have not heard of any grooming cases with Punjabi girls In London or outside that involves this community. West London plenty of Persian Muslim types, again I have not heard of the Persian Iranian community doing that either. 2) Being Punjabi comes with family politics, community awareness, being judged, constantly looking over your shoulder theres some aunt nagging or slandering your character. Thats fine for thick skinned lads. Put yourself in a girls shoes. The World grows closer, Our outlook needs to change to bring a sane balance to being Punjabi, encourage fun arts positive relationships social lives. If you equip a child with happiness and contentment then provide the Paat Naam SImran Seva side youve just given thee best of both worlds.. 3) There are lots of sexual relationships all over. The Demographics in the Uk Up North you have Sikhs and muslims living in pockets. The ENglish see both as migrants even if your born here. Its not as if a girl is a toy, she has the ability to make a choice. Punjabi lads need to adapt. Plenty of Spiritual Singhs keep away from self harm because their Mahapurkh or Chardi Kala Singhs advise them not to self harm. There is josh in self containing. But i do not feel it makes a person any more crafty. I have Pathaan friends who are just as anakhi straight fwd as some of our own. Beyond religion, there is DNA, culture, Race, Nation, creed. I cannot say that Turks and bengalis have the same habits. Nor Chechens or african muslims.

dont know about Canada but in Uk there is more subtle racism that appears to be accepted. Two days ago a Punjabi was pushed in front of a lorry by a white gang of robbers. The Media addressing immigration shows Black and Brown faces. It never shows East European migrants. There is then talk of capping Non EU migrants. Just look at the irony of this special relationship We had. 432 000 injured 83 000 killed in two world wars. There was very little recognition for the ultimate sacrifice. yet we very quickly turn on each other. WHy is that??

Things were changing so quick back in the 1990s, "Mainstream" English were fast polarising from the goodwill shown in earlier decades to Ethnic Minorities for hard work. It had nothing to do with Muslims even then. It was the appearance of more black brown faces with cultures the ENglish found alien. On the other side you had Ethnic guys n girls like us struggling to fit in. Politicians kept playing this segregation game in the Media with words like "Black Asian" to fuel Racial profiling. This word "Asian" is used comfortably by the ENglish to describe any1 of brown skin. Does ignorance excuse Racial profiling? Ethnics then stayed in our own areas. Thats pretty much how Groups formed within Multicultural communities. It happened to Muslim Kids they were caught in the wahab trap. It happened to Indo Punjabi kids who quickly clued on if theres no money dont bother. Black kids ended up in street gangs with absent fathers.. Some of that segregation still exists in Parts of brixton hackney are we now going to say Blacks are our enemy?? No because we Punjabis became accustomed to seeing Khalifa or Hizbut Tahrir leaflets on the net targetting sikh girls..Yet plenty of Girls of Indo Punjabi and now pakistani descent date black males too very openly. The concept of cultures and communities are changing fast. How does rap music describe girls and their private parts? From that generation early 1990s Ive seen a good deal of British Born Pakistanis turn their back on HT and Khalifa. One of my schoolfriends after being caught in the Khalifa trap lost the plot became mentally vulnerable , the K crew left him unstable.. His family had no idea how to support him back to normality. Dont waste time thinking muslims are your enemies. Lives are short, make the most of what you have. Immigration is down to one thing. If Things were better back home in Punjab India Balochistan Afghan Turkey Cyprus Kurdistan every1 would never have come here..The Borders are drawn during Colonialism to suit their Makers. This mess belongs to British Raj. All it had to do was reinstate the DUrrand Line, Give back Sovereign Power to Balochistan, Sort out the Kashmir Trouble, encourage three way talks with Iran Iraq Turkey over future of Kurdistan. The insistance of the Establishment to keep Colonial made borders is screwing up lives which become unbearable. Lets start to look at our own vulnerable position in a globalised World that is moving closer. I believe SIkhi equips us in any situation. B doing Nitnem Paat Nam SImran Seva our concious level has to be higher.

Guys im nw here. I have been busy and have just seen a few topics. On this particular one i felt like responding. I live in the Uk, I have been drawn to SIkhi, and live in a city with almost a Million Muslims of Pakistani Turkish Persian descent. The only form of trouble i ever had in my youth was at college when a group called Hizbut Tahrir paraded around. At a neighbouring instituition they gave an edict if anybody was seen wearing a karra he gets rushed. During that time Maajid Nawaz ( Quillium Director) was in that same college. Enraged as local punjabis were some friends congregated the said place only to find the Police disperse them. As fate had it the very next week a murder took place a Nigerian student was hacked to death by one of the HT Crew, which noww changed the way Ht were operating and how punjabis were responding to sporadic threats. Alarm bells rang a while..Cut long story short. Some of us have lived those awful years. But as we grew older we began to change our views..Yes i do have certain gripes but equally i now have some great muslim friends from Turkey Cyprus Lebanon Iraq and Pakistani Punjab... My own family have done more harm to me than some Muslim has... Does it still make me wary? Hell yeh!! It does not mean my gaurd is down.. Its just Humans no matter who we are can turn on each other. One does it for religion, next for skin, another for tribe.. Muslims in the Uk are now in a diff situation from early 2000 (riot heydays) ...Outside the Mirpuri Strongholds, Muslims are not that United or concious about Religio Politics. North South London has lots of Turks Cyoriot Muslims well integrated with Brits Blacks Indians u name it.. Theresno talk of khalifa.. No conversion crap that ive noticed! When you touch onto religion. take into consideration that part of the world. From Kurdistan to Balochistan Entire Civilisations have been demercated into new boundaries, Nations torn 2 3 times.. Similar to How Punjab was cut into two..