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Sangat ji, I'd like to know who uses the word "Waheguru" or "Vaheguru". It would be very interesting to see who says it differently with the W sound or V sound. I know there's really no difference but just wanted too see why SIkhs tend to choose to say "Waheguru" instead of "Vaheguru" or the other way around.

Yes Baba Ishar Singh ji rara sahib wale mention Suleman briefly for 30s in one of his atmik bachans. He mentions that suleman was a kazi and was involved in black magic, because of which he was punished for 1000 years. Its bachan # 7, filed under atmik bachans, puratan katha on Gurmatveechar.com

So I am sure Baba Ishar Singhji weren't lying.

Sangat ji, are you sure he wasn't just promoting himself like Suleman was told by Dharamraj you will be redeemed by Sant Isher Singh Ji like kind of shows you how he was glorifying himself... If anyone actually knows if Maskeen Singh Ji talked about this in one of his kathas a link would be appreciated as I heard he was there when this took place. I am sure why hasn't the tape been more popular or it was back than?

Yea tape is true, it wasnt recorded in 1 day but over a few months. The family now resides in california, and(suleman past life) is an amrirtfhari singh. The boy who was possessed is still in india today.

are you serious? I'm just very curious about it...

Is this story true as I am still trying to verify if this tape is actual real footage between Sant Baba Isher Singh ji and the so called Suleman the Ghost

Link Below shows the whole conversation in English. Very interesting but does anyone have anyone claim to this conversation if it really happened. i heard stories about Baba Isher Singh ji and a lot of positive stories and recordings his followers would sell to sangat (perhaps to scare them?)

http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/audio/Katha/Sant%20Isher%20Singh%20Ji%20(Rara%20Sahib)/Exorcism%20of%20Suleman%20Ghost/Reincarnation_of_a_ghost_ENG.pdf

Example of many Sikhs that lack understanding of Guru ji's teaching NO CASTE SYSTEM. Its sad to see an amritdhari go through this and I can tell you gurdwaras don't do **** in teaching no caste system and such things need to be taken more seriously. Well atleast in my gurdwara nothing is done in making sure no one uses their caste in finding rishta.

there is no "W" sound in the Punjabi alphabet so I always wondered why is it pronounced Waheguru instead of Vaheguru? Just curious....

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I'm no sure what K. S Makhans antics are and what his goal is but I have no issues with dharmic geet sung about bhagat ravidas within the sikh context, however when one associates bhagat ravidas with the term guru of sat guru it becomes out of the sikh context obviously, again if this is being associated with sikhi, it's needs to be condemned. That nihang guy was reprimanded for his views, why not K.S Makhan?

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which nihang guy? video link please

I don't know what's going on around here, but K.S.Makhan has recently done a number of ravidassia songs. As well as the misleading ''gurpurb guruan da'' about bhagat ravidass who is addressed as shri satguru ravidass. Then there is also another one called ''khalsa da tara or tara khalse da'' and when you hear the song and see video, you realise it's about bhagat ravidass again ?? .................hang on,...am I missing something here...'Khalsa' and 'ravidass'.. go hand in hand do they ??

There's also some others out there that came out in last few weeks.

We have no problem with bhagat bani, but when ravidassia and dera ballan go about making references of Satguru, and sri guru..under the banner of sikhi, then I'm afraid there is a huge problem.

He did a great job with his other album out last year all based on Sikhi related. I really don't know why he is singing about bhagat Ravidas ji but he is promoting Ravidassi followers who so claimed are a new religion. As himself a amritdhari this is hurting his reputation as a Sikh. I wouldn't be suprised if he was pulled into singing this kind of songs by some anti-Sikh agenda to be honest. Hopefully he goes back on the right path.

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What a shame it is to hear the state of sikhi in America. In the uk there has been an influx of people, generally younger who are reconnection to their sikhi. God willing the same will happen in America. It just takes a few gursikhs who live sikhi within every minute of their life to start this ball rolling. Here in the UK we have many young gursikhs who a giving a brilliant example to the younger generation. You may have already seen his videos on youtube, bhai Jugraj Singh from basics of sikhi, if you haven't share it with your friends and family and hopefully guru nanaks parchar will once again awake sleeping souls.

Is there also this caste supremacy ideology over sikhi in the states?

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Yes of course we have jatts Sikhs giving up a bad name in my own community. They have their own thing and they don't understand there is no caste system in Sikhi, but they ignore and create more chaos. I have been seeing Jugraj's videos for a long time he has been doing a amazing job. In America, myself at age 16, I have devoted myself to the Panth in anyway in the future I want to help Sikhi grow in America. The problem is in 30 years I don't see much Sikh youth interested in keeping gurdwaras in order. So I'm sure many and many will be shutting down in 30 years. With that said we have to bring back people into Sikhi and get rid of these Jatt Sikhs giving us a bad name by teaching them of course. Most of these jatt singers all sing about women, alcohol, etc...

Also the problem is our gurdwara committees allow this horrible singers into the UK, Canada, and America to sing there vulgar music giving a bad reputation to our Panth. Things must change for the good. Most of these singers are more talk of money and less of the faith of our Guru ji's teachings.

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Dear brother, I am a 17 year old from US. I will speak from the bottom of my heart about the state of Sikhi youth in America. Currently American Sikhs especially the youth are lacking in following our Gurus teachings and even falling into the pit full of maya. Most Sikh girls and boys in their teenage years have been destroyed by western culture including drugs, alcohol, cutting hair, and vulgar music. Not only that but they don't even want to learn about Sikhi and their attendance for gurdwara shows that. Sikh camps are still going on, but lack of interest in Gurbani teachings and lack of knowledge of our Shaheedis is incredibly sad. My Sikh brothers in America are following all these famous people lifestyle making them shave and dress like them its sad. The whole panth is declining but there are some bright Sikhs in America that are keeping faith intact. Parents aren't taking the time to teach their kids when they are much busy themselves leaving their kid to be confused when he/she becomes a teenager. That is a root of one of many of the problems of our youth today.

One SIkh singer I have had more respect for is K.S. Makhan who was involved in drugs like 2-3 years ago or so but became Amritdhari. I found his songs to be very inspirational for Sikh youth in Punjab as most of his songs are Sikhi related in terms of having pride of wearing dastaar and etc. But he came out with a recently new song "gurpurab gura da" singing about bhagat ravidas ji with his followers in the vid.... I found it a bit odd.

In my opinion, there is a lot to change in the Punjabi music industry. Of course first you have to clean up all the singers. I feel today's Punjab youth are looking up to Bollywood/ Punjab singers and actors instead of our great leaders of the Khalsa Panth who lived a unique life and give us much pride today. When these Punjabi teenagers look at how they dress up or how they shave they want to look exactly like them. It is absurd. They are falling into western culture style which in my opinion does not go with Sikhi lifestyle very well since we have many problems in America keeping Sikhi intact.