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Also I'd like to say it's a good effort the music producers and singers have talent its not all bad track however. The message is not right as people don't really look up to rudeboys/thugs and gangsters. Maybe criminals or school/college teen kids might... but your average person don't they might respect them or they might out of fear of violence but they hate them and wish them dead really.

Armed Sikh shaheeds ....all those good people who carried weapons to defend the faith, holy places and the normal innocent people however they will always be loved and remembered for their deeds of bravery for the righteous and good causes. If you look at the 1980s the intelligent and wise hindu punjabi's knew that real armed Sikh separatists were their punjabi brothers and would never try to scare them or turn their guns on them. Only fake sikh indian intelligence agents or criminals/gangsters (hindutva or congress funded) dressed up as Sikhs would try to do that. Sadly the evil Indian authorities were successful in their policies.

That is the difference between great punjabi sikh shaheeds like sant bhindranwale amoung many who was respected and feared by oppressive indian authorities not for his alleged "militancy" but the ideological change he was bringing in Sikh and punjabi society by waking up a sleeping sikh consciousness to change their bad ways (of taking intoxicants, feelings of depression and helplessness, fighting for useless anti-sikh issues, etc) and reconnect with their faith. So he died defending the rights of Sikhs and Sikhi and we can see the stark contrast with low life Canadian punjabi thugs/gangsters like bindi johal who died for only drugs and cash.

1 hour ago, BhForce said:

Thanks for posting this. It is extremely satisfying to see this anti-Sikh user exposed.

The basic method of this <banned word filter activated> was to take a general criticism of religion, by somebody like Christopher Hitchens, and then title the video "Sikhism Demolished" or something like that.

The problem is that the general criticism of religion applies equally well to Christianity as it might to Sikhism. The mindset of some Christians is that they are so desperate to to take down Sikhism, they don't even care that they take down Christianity in the process.

No problem I bare that in mind next time.

As for the anti-sikh channel creator on youtube its quite pathetic that someone would dedicate their time and effort to make fake cut and paste vids and slandering material on Sikhi. He pretended to be an atheist for a while, he wouldn't abuse hinduism but would bash Islam now and then.

So he is either a hindu or a christian but more likely a christian due to recent scandals of Sikh preachers fighting back against christian missionaries in punjab this dog started to post more material against Sikhs.

I think its high time Sikhs started to ideologically attack and dismantle Christianity in Sikh homeland of punjab. Its a bigger danger than Islam or radical hindu outfits there.

1 hour ago, YOYO29 said:

Shia sunni does not matter.Social norms are followed by every one.For most of the time its the girls family who pays for dowry .If you are going to marry a Punjabi girls you don't have to pay anything to girls family its the other way around.Girls family gives dowry.However there are very rare instances when a man is unable to marry a punjabi girl or no body is willing is to marry his daughter to him.In that case he would simply buy a pathani (a woman from the province of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa ).He would pay to the father of bride and bring the bride to punjab.I know one such person from my village .But this is in very rare cases.In majority cases its the girls family which provides dowry.I read an article a few months back that some people in Indian Punjab also buy women from poor states like Bihar.But that can't be presented as proof that majority Indian Punjabis pay for the bride.I hope you got my point by now.
On the other hand I have talked to many people returning from Arab countries who told me that in Arab countries its the groom who pays to bride's family.

 

 

That's interesting however on islamic websites it states something similar to this:

In Islam, a mahr (in Arabic: مهر‎; Persian: مهريه‎; Turkish: Mehir also transliterated mehr, meher, mehrieh or mahriyeh) is a mandatory payment, in the form of money or possessions paid or promised to be paid by the groom, or by groom's father, to the bride at the time of marriage, that legally becomes her property.

4 minutes ago, YOYO29 said:

Let me guess.your friend is from middle east.It is completely opposite in Pakistan

No shes pakistani sunni muslim.

Whats the majority dowry marriage system in pakistan? Most muslims I've asked have said its the guy or his family that pays the girls family.

2 hours ago, Premi5 said:

Surprised at how much Muslims out-number Sikhs in Birmingham:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_Birmingham

The following table shows the religion of respondents in the 2001 and 2011 censuses in Birmingham.

Religion	2001[40]		2011[41]
	Number	%	Number	%
Christian	577,783	59.13%	494,358	46.07%
Buddhist	2,977	0.30%	4,780	0.45%
Hindu	19,358	1.98%	22,362	2.08%
Jewish	2,343	0.24%	2,205	0.21%
Muslim	140,033	14.33%	234,411	21.85%
Sikh	28,592	2.93%	32,376	3.02%
Other religion	2,501	0.26%	5,646	0.53%
No religion	121,541	12.44%	206,821	19.27%
Religion not stated	81,959	8.39%	70,086	6.53%
Total	977,087	100.00%	1,073,045	100.00%

Distribution of religions in Birmingham according to the 2011 census.

Disturbing Muslim immigration and demographics in Birmingham, its a hot bed of islamification over the decades.

Long term strategy is quite clear take over towns and cities by sheer numbers and destroy non-muslim populations, societies and eventually nations through the votebank politics by stealth.

Over the decade I have noticed a sharp increase in divorce rates within the Sikh community. We used to look at the white atheist/abrahamic communities and thank our lucky stars were not like their families because of the high number of divorces and family break downs. But sadly the desi/asian communities of all religions are now on par with their white counterparts.

It seems to me that boys and girls especially of our generation do not take the wedding vows or the anand karaj seriously they seem to live in carefree non-religious mindset without a care for how sikh society is structured and importance of religion in holding communities and families together. The girls of today are living a feminist rebellious bubble thinking they can do what they live when they live even while living with the husbands family and if they don't let them get away with things then they are quick to separate and then divorce. They have not been trained, educated and breed to behave to live a honorable and respectful manor befitting of a Sikh woman rather they are left to their own devices of living like their white women feminist hedonist counterparts who are themselves not very family orientated and selfish at heart.

What we need is a 1 month course of anyone wishing to have a sikh marriage anand karaj so that they do not take the marriage as a joke or lightly and think they can divorce when ever they feel like it. I believe the catholic church has a course like this for those who converting to cathollicism in order to marry in their churchs.

Has anyone else noticed this negative trend divorce trend? And what are the possible solutions to it.

The two biggest cowardly rats who ordered the genocides were rajiv gandhi (dead) and arun nehru (still alive). Arun nehru has got away with it since day one of troubles in punjab against Sikhs.

The next rats in the packing order were sajjan kumar and jagdish tytler whom been protected for over 40years.

Whats strange that its taken about 7years to release these videos from the date stamp marked on the videos they were filmed in 2011.

Question is why were they released now and not in 2014 when it was the 30year anniversary of anti-sikh new delhi genocide and operation blue star. It would have had a greater impact rather than now where the youth are now not bothering to remember and those who are elderly but lived through that era are now dying off slowly knowing indian establishment will never give them justice.

Even if all those responsible of the genocide are convicted and executed today it is far too late now that hate for india is far too ingrained because justice was not shift and has not been forth coming there is no trust or faith left with the whole indian system be it hindu nationalist bjp or anti-sikh secularist terrorists congress.

6 hours ago, Prokharkoo84 said:

Gets a small percentage of Amritdharis or a few young moneh who got a bit of Punjabi ankh boosted, does it get the people its aimed at boosted? I.E the girls on instagram taking half naked pics? No. Great effort and maximum respect to the Seva of all the artists and Sikh Youth UK, but sadly i dont think its going to make a massive difference as a whole.

Thats what i was thinking good efforts but sadly just not enuff to get into the minds of young impressionable slutty dressed loose character punjabi girls on instagram and snapchat.

They need to use good looking mostly monay Sikh guys and a few amritdhari lads to lure in the females and teach them Sikhi. The old ways are not working and will never work. New psychological strategies hard hitting enough that Sikh girls will beware of abrahamics and will never want a non-sikh to touch them and even muslim and christian girls wanting to convert to Sikhi. Then they will know they are on to a winner.

If you read the koran. The so called words from Allah he is often talking ill and bad mouthing about his own supposed creation. Like a sneaky friend who wants to turn you against someone he tells lies and propaganda against your other friends or relatives (and in the case of religion ....against non-believers) and then tries to make himself sound like the best and everything for you.

Weak and vulnerable people reading it will then fall into the trap thinking yes everyone is against me (ie the kufr) let me spread hatred and fight against them as they hate my creator.

Very clever mind tricks psychological brainwashing...

Same is true of the bible the same sort of angry, jealous and bloodthirsty God trying to turn believers in him against non-believers.

Latest news on this is that shes been jailed for 3years. I would jail her for life with no prospect for release.

Also Its wrong for the Indian article writers to say she is british Sikh obviously the indian hindu fascists are going to play on the love jihad angle and try to malign british sikhs saying these converted girls are dangerous. And yes they are dangerous because they are vulnerable and mentally ill and coming from bad family environments.

I would say 70% of the fault of her conversion to islamic terrorism is her family's fault and 30% is her muslim friends and islamic propaganda online/leaflets.

It's time families recognize whats going on with their kids and fight this abrahamic plague.

Check what she was saying and doing in the articles below

http://www.timesnownews.com/international/article/british-sikh-girl-sandeep-samra-isis-islamic-states-syria-marrying-extremists-passport/192513

http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/punjab/uk-sikh-teen-plotted-to-join-isis-in-syria/534307.html

http://www.itv.com/news/central/2018-01-26/student-radicalised-online-jailed-for-planning-to-commit-terror-attacks-in-syria/

Imagine your a muslim or a christian and you wanted to groom and a convert a unbelieving hell bound individual as per your backward ideology.

How would you go about it?

I'm trying to understand the mindset of these parasites so we can develop strategies to counter then and protect our vulnerable youths from their propaganda techniques.

From what I know where there is temptation then you will have a greater chance to stray from righteousness and Sikhi so better to remove yourself from such situations so that negative situations dont occuar.

He is a handsome singh and no doubt alot of women probably has come on to him in past and now even probably. And for a few years now he obviously has been hanging around the 3H0 new age yoga crowd and from there he got a liberal hippy mindset and thus it led him into temptation.

Had he stuck around with good strong solid sangat and had more time devoted to his wife and family he would think less about dancing around like a fool with yogi bhajans cultist 3HO yoga girls or getting off with them.

This kinda case shows us that even the most religious looking people lose their fear and respect for Waheguru when they fall into the traps of the manmukh selfish mind and 5 vices.

It is far easier to stray to the wrong path in life in a mixed religious or a liberal godless society. It is also far easier in the modern world now to get caught cheating also with all these media scandals coming out. Video evidence is far harder to disprove than hearsay from next mans rumour or gossip.

You can never totally defeat kaam or any other vices.

Guru Ji tells us to control them and not let them control you. So if Kaam is an issue divert your mind have a cold shower recite prayers, do some physical sporty activities or if you still have issues then get married to a practicing Sikh and use kaam in a healthy productive way with each other.

When you get older you will find Kaam will become less of an issue as your hormones will subside.

On 12/28/2017 at 7:57 PM, HarfunMaula said:

Inferiority complex, in one of their films they were saying Sikhs are the bravest 'qaum'  and only ones who can compete with Muslims - don't remember the title, it was set in the British India times. 

Besides that just religious extremism whereby they want others to convert to Islam. They always try it in one way or another,  I've seen quite a few Pakistanis claiming their ancestors embraced Islam by leaving Sikhi and so on.

I'm pretty sure some Sikhs who were rich land and shop owners did convert to Islam rather than leave their rich lands when partition happened in 1947. Those were the weak Sikhs that had no love for sikhi the patiaila captain amrinder and badal family types who would sell their own mothers than face the enemies of Sikhi head on.

The weakness is not with pakistani muslims.....the weakness is with our kaum not creating media propaganda of muslims converting to Sikhi or teaching our youth and people we must convert others to Sikhi in order to be saved in the next life. We are in s state of wishy washy denial not helped by the manhat freemasons running SGPC.

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I think we should make a point of exchanging gifts with close friends and family when celebrating vaisakhi, bandhi shord diwas or guru nanak Ji's birthday in 2018. Bring back the joy and spirit of our own festivals

Indian military adventurism again. Either they are using insurgent groups in pakistan, kashmiri muslim turncoat militants to attack pakistani troops or regular indian commando's crossing over.

Indian establishment feels more emboldened by their economic might and ultra far right nationalist RSS BJP modi hindu government.

I usually don't care what these idiots get up to but they keep using deaths of sikh soldiers and the Sikh regiment deployed in kashmir in their silly mind games to try and be hindu's sword arm as RSS hindus like to claim Sikhs are of hinduism.

On 12/25/2017 at 7:34 AM, 13Mirch said:

I have been a member of this forum since late 2011, during these last few years I have witnessed a great many changes in the administration and content of this forum. The current toe line, however, seems to be focusing more on aligning dissident opinion with the majority's through the use of bans and heavy moderation which-in most cases- I believe to be generally uncalled for. I understand that this is only my view, but nonetheless it is a concern which has been voiced on this forum several times before. At the end of the day, whilst profusely thanking all fellow accounts, I will also request the mods to pay heed to my reason for leaving this forum:

Sikhi was never based on a majority consensus opinions where Jathebandi fanboys had rule of the roost. I don't understand, then, why this forum has mods who swiftly expunge any content which they deem to be an antithesis of their own cherished perceptions. 

 

 

That is no reason to leave.

However I do agree if there is disagreements against sects/jatha's then there should be a separate area in the forum to discuss such things but no good ever comes out of it usually. Better to focus on topics that majority of Sikhs can unify on and discuss.

I used to be just a guest reader of the forum but decided I need to take part and air my opinions too as we need diversity of thought sometimes. I have seen the forum drop popularity over the years with the rise of facebook and other social media's but it will regain popularity again if we can tolerate each others views and actively participate regularly. There is an issue of non-sikh trolls infiltrating the forum just to divert attention sometimes and try to make a mockery of Sikhs on the sly. That's why I think heavy moderation was needed, however there needs to be a fine balance and census formed between what is accepted speech and what isn't in Sikh forums.